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Well with sickness and the holidays finally behind me I feel I can finally get back to focussing on scopes and getting an update to the March 1.5-15 is top on my priority list.I actually just got back from being able to play with this at distance at my brother's (I live in an urban location so 100 yards was my limit previously).
It's all dialed in now. I could read smaller print on billboards 1000+ yards out just fine. Playing with the parallax at distance, I realized it's easy to go past the sweet spot, and reversing to try to find it again was more difficult than finding it going forward (if that makes any sense haha). So I went inside and used his white cabinet to check the diopter. Similar situation, I had overshot the sweet spot initially by ~.7.
I'm satisfied. Sure, I wish it was an optical upgrade over the Athlon above 10X, but honestly those Athlon's are impressive little dudes.
The range of the March is fantastic. At 1.5X it reminds me of my Elcan at 1X. Super clear edge to edge, nice bright dot. I'll be shocked if there's something better for a 50-600 yard gun any time soon. Hell, I'm more confident this will be fine at even 1000 than I am my skills and a .308 from a 14" barrel.
This is exactly what I have done with mine. Mine sits on a 8.6 blackout bolt gun in an American Rifle chassis with a forward optics platform. It works very well for me. My distances are not excessive, so it usually stays between 1.5-6 or so, but 10 shouldn't be a problem.Thinking about putting this behind a clip on thermal. If it's terrific from 1-10 I might be sold on it
Well I'm a believer, whatever they did has had a positive effect because my eyes like it much more than the previous experience with the original reticle. Maybe the adjustments to match the the reticle did the trick, but either way I am having a much better time with my 1.5-15 than previously and glad I opted for the reticle swap. I really love this Dual Focal Plane reticle and the daylight bright center dot, I'll be playing a lot more with this scope this year..."Because the tree dots in the new reticle are larger, it may seem that the scope with the new reticle has a sharper image.
Also for FFP reticle replacements, we take out the inner parts and after we reassemble the reticle and parts, we readjust the image quality. We adjust the image quality to match the reticle. If the customer feels that the IQ of the returned scope is better, we are confident that the new reticle has had a positive effect."
I was able to get out and do some more thorough testing with my resolution charts and such this past week and what I found surprised me, the resolution numbers were very close to the scope before I sent it in to March for the reticle upgrade, but what I'm seeing through the scope especially above 8x "appears" very different, the IQ just looks better and even next to the Athlon it looks better throughout. Denys shared March's response on page 2, here is what they had to say:
Well I'm a believer, whatever they did has had a positive effect because my eyes like it much more than the previous experience with the original reticle. Maybe the adjustments to match the the reticle did the trick, but either way I am having a much better time with my 1.5-15 than previously and glad I opted for the reticle swap. I really love this Dual Focal Plane reticle and the daylight bright center dot, I'll be playing a lot more with this scope this year...
Thanks for the work and the update. I have always loved the particulars about this scope, but comments on the glass have deterred me from pursuing one. F7I was able to get out and do some more thorough testing with my resolution charts and such this past week and what I found surprised me, the resolution numbers were very close to the scope before I sent it in to March for the reticle upgrade, but what I'm seeing through the scope especially above 8x "appears" very different, the IQ just looks better and even next to the Athlon it looks better throughout. Denys shared March's response on page 2, here is what they had to say:
Well I'm a believer, whatever they did has had a positive effect because my eyes like it much more than the previous experience with the original reticle. Maybe the adjustments to match the the reticle did the trick, but either way I am having a much better time with my 1.5-15 than previously and glad I opted for the reticle swap. I really love this Dual Focal Plane reticle and the daylight bright center dot, I'll be playing a lot more with this scope this year...
During my setup I measured off 30’ with a tape measure to my test target and the scope had no issue focussing that close.Has any owner of the March 1.5-15 found that the parallax/focus did not go down to a true 10 yards? At least two shooters (one being a March lover) have told me that theirs did not. This was my second concern about this model, and while many shooters may not care, I do. Thanks. F7
Thanks.During my setup I measured off 30’ with a tape measure to my test target and the scope had no issue focussing that close.
Mine goes down to 10 yards just fine. Again, keep in mind that if the eyepiece is not set correctly, close focus distance will be impacted.During my setup I measured off 30’ with a tape measure to my test target and the scope had no issue focussing that close.
Thanks for assisting. F7Mine goes down to 10 yards just fine. Again, keep in mind that if the eyepiece is not set correctly, close focus distance will be impacted.
With a dual focal plane reticle, eyepiece setting can be a bitch.
ILya
I just ordered 2 of these myself. I'm an optics dealer and we just picked March up. Pretty excited to get these in.
I am sorry to hear this, and I hope things get resolved well and quickly for you. Thanks for being honest about the details. F7What are you guys doing for repairs? My March 1-10x arrived non functional and longrangesupply has made it clear I'm on my own for getting it repaired.
edit: In their defense it was clear before I bought it that they didn't support their sales I just also didn't expect to receive a damaged optic
Shoot me a PM or email and I'll get you in contact with the right people. I know you didn't buy it from me but I'll help if I can.What are you guys doing for repairs? My March 1-10x arrived non functional and longrangesupply has made it clear I'm on my own for getting it repaired.
edit: In their defense it was clear before I bought it that they didn't support their sales I just also didn't expect to receive a damaged optic
I'm in touch with March via longrangesupply. I just wish I didn't have to be.
I know you didn't buy it from me but I'll help if I can.
Nice to hear. Does the good IQ maintain at higher mag? Thanks. F7I'm loving mine so far. Image quality is good so I feel like I must have benefited from the same IQ changes that Glassaholic mentioned. It also plays well with my TigIR and my ClipIR ELR.
It seems to although I haven’t taken it to real distance yet. It does have the edge dropoff that I expected from reviews but it is less than I feared.
This is rather late response to your comment on the ATACR 4-20 FOV, Glass. After reading what you said about the small FOV of this ATACR, I put it next to the Ares ETR 3-18 and the LHT 3-15x50 at 100 yards and 4x. The Ares has the best FOV, the LHT is a somewhat close second, and the ATACR 4-20 is a distant third. While here, the quite larger FOV of the Ares and its thin outer periphery could initially give the impression that it has a better image than the ATACR, which is not the case. Thanks. F7I agree and also think "it works better than it should". Not many Nightforce scopes have piqued my interest due to some issue or another, be it narrow FOV at the bottom as is the case for the 5-25 and the most recent ATACR the 4-20.
I think that may be a factor, the 4-16x42 being a 4x erector while all other (long range) ATACR's have 5x erectors. But I'd also say that scope manufacturing and optical formula's have improved since the 4-16 was released, even the ATACR 7-35 is fairly well known to offer better optical performance than the 5-25. When NF announced the 4-20 I really thought it was going to be "the replacement" for the 4-16 that many were waiting for but the weight and the tunneling/narrow FOV at 4x just didn't make sense (it was designed for a mil contract which likely has something to do with that). For these reasons I think the 4-16x42 continues to be such a good seller, and will be until we see an ATACR II 3-18x42 or similar.
The Bushnell LRHS 3-12x44 I think was the closest to this - it was made by LOW, same OEM that makes ATACR's and others. The LRHS/LRTS scopes punched above their class, but they were long scopes when the market seemed to be pushing for shorter and shorter which is what I think limited their appeal.
I was surprised NF went with an NX8 before an NX6 as well. I was an early adopter of the NX8 2.5-20 and was really disappointed but reviewed a newer version last year that rectified a lot of the optical abnormalities my early version had. Not sure if it's QC issue or if NF actually modified the optical formula for better performance in later models. But high erector plus short scope usually ends up in compromises mostly to the eyebox, DOF and finicky parallax department.
You got it - it doesn't market well for today, but I think many don't realize what they are giving up to get shorter scopes with higher mag ranges. I think there's a reason why TT and ZCO (and NF) have stayed around 5x for their top scopes. The new Vortex G3 6-36 is the first 6x scope I've seen that comes close to matching the performance of the alpha class in all these areas and it sounds like the new S&B 6-36x56 may actually exceed them but I'm waiting for ILya's review on these top high magnification scopes to find out if that is really the case, either way, sounds like Schmidt's non-USA 6-36 could really shake things up.
I will try to get this out sooner rather than later, but even though I re-use some of my notes in each review, there is still a lot of specific write up that takes time.
In fairness to the ATACR 4-20 (and 5-25 for that matter) and their limited FOV at the bottom end, these scopes do increase FOV rather quickly with an increase in magnification, so don't think of the FOV on a linear scale - yes, with some scopes it is pretty close to linear but with these ATACR's especially after you get past the bottom magnification and begin to move out to 10x or so the FOV really opens up on these scopes.This is rather late response to your comment on the ATACR 4-20 FOV, Glass. After reading what you said about the small FOV of this ATACR, I put it next to the Ares ETR 3-18 and the LHT 3-15x50 at 100 yards and 4x. The Ares has the best FOV, the LHT is a somewhat close second, and the ATACR 4-20 is a distant third. While here, the quite larger FOV of the Ares and its thin outer periphery could initially give the impression that it has a better image than the ATACR, which is not the case. Thanks. F7
Thanks for the insight. I will check this out, but not next to a nice ZCO, which I do not have.In fairness to the ATACR 4-20 (and 5-25 for that matter) and their limited FOV at the bottom end, these scopes do increase FOV rather quickly with an increase in magnification, so don't think of the FOV on a linear scale - yes, with some scopes it is pretty close to linear but with these ATACR's especially after you get past the bottom magnification and begin to move out to 10x or so the FOV really opens up on these scopes.
Case in point, if you compare the ATACR 4-20 with the ZCO 4-20 you'll see that ZCO has a significant advantage over the ATACR at 4x (however, keep in mind that ZCO's FOV numbers are inflated for the US market) but by 20x the ATACR actually has a slight advantage over the ZCO (according to published numbers but again keep in mind ZCO numbers are inflated so the difference is actually greater than the published values)
Can you measure the windage turret height from the main tube OD? Trying to determine if this will work with the HANGER from Valhalla Tactical for an ADM Recon mount. I use the HANGER on an LPVO and it works well, but on my 2.5-10 PA GLX scopes the windage turret is so tall and large it completely occludes the red dot. Also, if the Shuriken lock is too tall, the non shuriken might work if its shorter, so if you also have access to this version I would like to know its height as well. Thanks for the help.
March UK ships to the US. I’d start there.Where might one purchase a March FFP 1.5-15x42 MPVO (aside from the vendor who charges in full at order, rather than at ship… and supports the product by saying “Don’t call us…You’re on your own if there’s a problem) ?
Not sure how to tag Glassaholic on here, but his reviews are top notch! My experience with Leupold glass are detailed below.Another question? How do you think this compares to a Leupold MK5HD 2-10 (or maybe a 3.6-18, but that’s a little high on the low end magnification) if you’ve tested the Leupy. I currently run a GLX 2.5-10 on my GPR/SPR and I really want to step up to premium glass in an MPVO that’s short and Compact and durable.
I’ll chime in here. I bought my D15V42FIMLX (MIL, Tactical, Illumi, Shuriken lock) in Jan ‘24 to replace My Leupold X-5HD with offset red dot. The March improved with glass quality, length, locking turrets, illumination, and not having to cant between the offset. After some time behind the March, comparing them for hours to my (Mark 5HD 5-25, VX-5HD 3-15 and new Steiner T6XI 5-30) I was confused and frustrated.
First, the glass is better than the Steiner & Leupolds, fit & finish a big step up, crazy compact compared to even the 3-15, and the Shurken locks are solid. I was disappointed with the edge clarity, chromatic aberration, and depth of field when zooming and out…to the point of regretting my decision and wondering if I could return it. After rereading Glassaholic’s impressive, detailed comparison on Snipers Hide, I found The Dark Lord of Optic’s video on diopter setting. I reset the diopter using 10x power in a dark room with an illuminated wall a couple feet beyond the objective. WOW! GAME CHANGER!
An innovative, industry leading design that nails all these features: locking, illumination, timepiece precision, exit pupil, field of view, weight, magnification range…..doing it while presenting it in a 10.6” package! The Length is the disrupter in today’s market. Make the March scope 3” longer like my VX5 and many IQ problems would diminish.
Patiently setting the diopter on 10x transformed the reticle clear edge to edge. Still a bit fuzzy at 15x, but from 1.5-13 the March took on a new personality. I then recalibrated my expectations: 1-6 is easy, 1-10 is tricky, 1.5-15 is nuts! Couple that with a SHORT footprint, and you’re going to have to finesse the parallax knob more due to the 10x magnification range. I’m used to max 6X on any scope I’ve ever utilized.
Look, I’m not the kind of guy that would get mad at a sports car I bought for using too much gas, or not being able to take that sports car off-roading - it’s about properly calibrating expectations. When I looked at the overall performance for my intended use, I’m impressed every time I get behind it. There’s nothing comparative that offers ALL these options in a complete package that I’m aware of. Which is why Glassaholic chose the comparative scopes he did. ATACR is great- make it 1.5-15, 6oz lighter, and 2” shorter. I’m not sure if this properly addresses your question, but I’m happy to add any detail that would be helpful. View attachment 8376598
Definitely helps answer my questions. I was pretty well sold on the March, but wanted to see what else was close. I haven’t found anything else spec wise that does what this does on paper. I’ve also never owned “good” glass other than a 5-25 Vudu, which was nice, but was too much magnification for what I wanted to use it for. Also it had really bad CA. Other than that I love my GLX 2.5-10s, I have one on a MK12 Mod 0 and another on a MK12 Mod 1, and plan to put one on my 716i that I use for hunting. For the price I love the scope, probably my favorite all around scope for general use but this March ticks all the boxes for the rifle I’m building right now.I’ll chime in here. I bought my D15V42FIMLX (MIL, Tactical, Illumi, Shuriken lock) in Jan ‘24 to replace My Leupold X-5HD with offset red dot. The March improved with glass quality, length, locking turrets, illumination, and not having to cant between the offset. After some time behind the March, comparing them for hours to my (Mark 5HD 5-25, VX-5HD 3-15 and new Steiner T6XI 5-30) I was confused and frustrated.
First, the glass is better than the Steiner & Leupolds, fit & finish a big step up, crazy compact compared to even the 3-15, and the Shurken locks are solid. I was disappointed with the edge clarity, chromatic aberration, and depth of field when zooming and out…to the point of regretting my decision and wondering if I could return it. After rereading Glassaholic’s impressive, detailed comparison on Snipers Hide, I found The Dark Lord of Optic’s video on diopter setting. I reset the diopter using 10x power in a dark room with an illuminated wall a couple feet beyond the objective. WOW! GAME CHANGER!
An innovative, industry leading design that nails all these features: locking, illumination, timepiece precision, exit pupil, field of view, weight, magnification range…..doing it while presenting it in a 10.6” package! The Length is the disrupter in today’s market. Make the March scope 3” longer like my VX5 and many IQ problems would diminish.
Patiently setting the diopter on 10x transformed the reticle clear edge to edge. Still a bit fuzzy at 15x, but from 1.5-13 the March took on a new personality. I then recalibrated my expectations: 1-6 is easy, 1-10 is tricky, 1.5-15 is nuts! Couple that with a SHORT footprint, and you’re going to have to finesse the parallax knob more due to the 10x magnification range. I’m used to max 6X on any scope I’ve ever utilized.
Look, I’m not the kind of guy that would get mad at a sports car I bought for using too much gas, or not being able to take that sports car off-roading - it’s about properly calibrating expectations. When I looked at the overall performance for my intended use, I’m impressed every time I get behind it. There’s nothing comparative that offers ALL these options in a complete package that I’m aware of. Which is why Glassaholic chose the comparative scopes he did. ATACR is great- make it 1.5-15, 6oz lighter, and 2” shorter. I’m not sure if this properly addresses your question, but I’m happy to add any detail that would be helpful. View attachment 8376598
Thank you for your reply ILya. I have a deep respect for your insights and reviews! So much so, that I purchased the FFP - but not the Dual. My philosophy of use is more hunting than tactical, so I went for the uncluttered FML-4. Not until I watched another of your explanations after the fact, that I believe the DFP dot allows for a daylight bright dot with SFP design mechanics. So, a bit disappointed in my brightness and the center dot gets huge on 15x. I shoot an Sig Cross that affords me similar platform hunting/precision flexibility. The line between flexibility & effectiveness will continue to narrow with innovations like what March is doing here.I am glad this was helpful. DFP 1.5-15x is VERY hard. When it is this short, it is stupid hard. If they made it a couple of inches longer it would perform better optically... but then it would be longer and that was not the design purposes. Everything is a compromise. I have that same scope and it kicks ass. I am aware of the compromises, but the flexibility of it is practically unmatched.
ILya
Thanks for the input. Can you link the video on diopter adjustment?I’ll chime in here. I bought my D15V42FIMLX (MIL, Tactical, Illumi, Shuriken lock) in Jan ‘24 to replace My Leupold X-5HD with offset red dot. The March improved with glass quality, length, locking turrets, illumination, and not having to cant between the offset. After some time behind the March, comparing them for hours to my (Mark 5HD 5-25, VX-5HD 3-15 and new Steiner T6XI 5-30) I was confused and frustrated.
First, the glass is better than the Steiner & Leupolds, fit & finish a big step up, crazy compact compared to even the 3-15, and the Shurken locks are solid. I was disappointed with the edge clarity, chromatic aberration, and depth of field when zooming and out…to the point of regretting my decision and wondering if I could return it. After rereading @Glassaholic impressive, detailed comparison on Snipers Hide, I found The Dark Lord of Optic’s video on diopter setting. I reset the diopter using 10x power in a dark room with an illuminated wall a couple feet beyond the objective. WOW! GAME CHANGER!
An innovative, industry leading design that nails all these features: locking, illumination, timepiece precision, exit pupil, field of view, weight, magnification range…..doing it while presenting it in a 10.6” package! The Length is the disrupter in today’s market. Make the March scope 3” longer like my VX5 and many IQ problems would diminish.
Patiently setting the diopter on 10x transformed the reticle clear edge to edge. Still a bit fuzzy at 15x, but from 1.5-13 the March took on a new personality. I then recalibrated my expectations: 1-6 is easy, 1-10 is tricky, 1.5-15 is nuts! Couple that with a SHORT footprint, and you’re going to have to finesse the parallax knob more due to the 10x magnification range. I’m used to max 6X on any scope I’ve ever utilized.
Look, I’m not the kind of guy that would get mad at a sports car I bought for using too much gas, or not being able to take that sports car off-roading - it’s about properly calibrating expectations. When I looked at the overall performance for my intended use, I’m impressed every time I get behind it. There’s nothing comparative that offers ALL these options in a complete package that I’m aware of. Which is why Glassaholic chose the comparative scopes he did. ATACR is great- make it 1.5-15, 6oz lighter, and 2” shorter. I’m not sure if this properly addresses your question, but I’m happy to add any detail that would be helpful. View attachment 8376598
Back 1/2 of Part 1 resonated with me:Thanks for the input. Can you link the video on diopter adjustment?
You bring up an excellent point with regard to the diopter setting, too often we "think" it is right but I would say if you ever run into situations where something seems to be out of whack (what does that really mean anyway ) it might be time for re-adjustment and/or fine tuning. I also have a theory that the higher the magnification range/erector the more finicky it can be to get the diopter just right. @koshkin has been an invaluable resource to this community and has certainly helped me when I felt I was loosing my mind with how some scopes were behaving and that is definitely the case with the March 1.5-15x42. I highly recommend those videos above.I’ll chime in here. I bought my D15V42FIMLX (MIL, Tactical, Illumi, Shuriken lock) in Jan ‘24 to replace My Leupold X-5HD with offset red dot. The March improved with glass quality, length, locking turrets, illumination, and not having to cant between the offset. After some time behind the March, comparing them for hours to my (Mark 5HD 5-25, VX-5HD 3-15 and new Steiner T6XI 5-30) I was confused and frustrated.
First, the glass is better than the Steiner & Leupolds, fit & finish a big step up, crazy compact compared to even the 3-15, and the Shurken locks are solid. I was disappointed with the edge clarity, chromatic aberration, and depth of field when zooming and out…to the point of regretting my decision and wondering if I could return it. After rereading @Glassaholic impressive, detailed comparison on Snipers Hide, I found The Dark Lord of Optic’s video on diopter setting. I reset the diopter using 10x power in a dark room with an illuminated wall a couple feet beyond the objective. WOW! GAME CHANGER!
An innovative, industry leading design that nails all these features: locking, illumination, timepiece precision, exit pupil, field of view, weight, magnification range…..doing it while presenting it in a 10.6” package! The Length is the disrupter in today’s market. Make the March scope 3” longer like my VX5 and many IQ problems would diminish.
Patiently setting the diopter on 10x transformed the reticle clear edge to edge. Still a bit fuzzy at 15x, but from 1.5-13 the March took on a new personality. I then recalibrated my expectations: 1-6 is easy, 1-10 is tricky, 1.5-15 is nuts! Couple that with a SHORT footprint, and you’re going to have to finesse the parallax knob more due to the 10x magnification range. I’m used to max 6X on any scope I’ve ever utilized.
Look, I’m not the kind of guy that would get mad at a sports car I bought for using too much gas, or not being able to take that sports car off-roading - it’s about properly calibrating expectations. When I looked at the overall performance for my intended use, I’m impressed every time I get behind it. There’s nothing comparative that offers ALL these options in a complete package that I’m aware of. Which is why Glassaholic chose the comparative scopes he did. ATACR is great- make it 1.5-15, 6oz lighter, and 2” shorter. I’m not sure if this properly addresses your question, but I’m happy to add any detail that would be helpful.
Oh I think more often than not actually. Eotech's and my eyes have never liked each other and it's made me suspect I have an astigmatism but figured they should find that in my normal eye exam, but maybe I need to specifically ask for that. I thought all eye exams were "comprehensive" but maybe not...A problem for me I didn't think about until they reminded me at Stein was that pre surgery my eyes had differing amounts of astigmatism. The problems I had adjusting my diopters on my cameras as I got older were because of my cataracts getting worse where everything was just plain fuzzy.
The first Eotech I bought, I put a battery in it, and turned it on, expecting to see a perfect "circle of death" only to see a lopsided "oval", so I sent the thing back telling them the circle was cockeyed and something was wrong w/it.
They sent it back to me, and I sent it back to them twice, and only then did it occur to me to go ahead and get a comprehensive eye exam which told me I had astigmatism (really bad in the left eye).
I wonder how many optics have gotten a "bum rap" because of something/some other issue rather than their true performance.
Where did you find the March in stock?I’ll chime in here. I bought my D15V42FIMLX (MIL, Tactical, Illumi, Shuriken lock) in Jan ‘24 to replace My Leupold X-5HD with offset red dot. The March improved with glass quality, length, locking turrets, illumination, and not having to cant between the offset. After some time behind the March, comparing them for hours to my (Mark 5HD 5-25, VX-5HD 3-15 and new Steiner T6XI 5-30) I was confused and frustrated.
First, the glass is better than the Steiner & Leupolds, fit & finish a big step up, crazy compact compared to even the 3-15, and the Shurken locks are solid. I was disappointed with the edge clarity, chromatic aberration, and depth of field when zooming and out…to the point of regretting my decision and wondering if I could return it. After rereading @Glassaholic impressive, detailed comparison on Snipers Hide, I found The Dark Lord of Optic’s video on diopter setting. I reset the diopter using 10x power in a dark room with an illuminated wall a couple feet beyond the objective. WOW! GAME CHANGER!
An innovative, industry leading design that nails all these features: locking, illumination, timepiece precision, exit pupil, field of view, weight, magnification range…..doing it while presenting it in a 10.6” package! The Length is the disrupter in today’s market. Make the March scope 3” longer like my VX5 and many IQ problems would diminish.
Patiently setting the diopter on 10x transformed the reticle clear edge to edge. Still a bit fuzzy at 15x, but from 1.5-13 the March took on a new personality. I then recalibrated my expectations: 1-6 is easy, 1-10 is tricky, 1.5-15 is nuts! Couple that with a SHORT footprint, and you’re going to have to finesse the parallax knob more due to the 10x magnification range. I’m used to max 6X on any scope I’ve ever utilized.
Look, I’m not the kind of guy that would get mad at a sports car I bought for using too much gas, or not being able to take that sports car off-roading - it’s about properly calibrating expectations. When I looked at the overall performance for my intended use, I’m impressed every time I get behind it. There’s nothing comparative that offers ALL these options in a complete package that I’m aware of. Which is why Glassaholic chose the comparative scopes he did. ATACR is great- make it 1.5-15, 6oz lighter, and 2” shorter. I’m not sure if this properly addresses your question, but I’m happy to add any detail that would be helpful. View attachment 8376598
I bought it on Scopelist. Europtic has some too.Where did you find the March in stock
I believe Scopelist and Eurooptic are affiliated.I bought it on Scopelist. Europtic has some too.
I'm currently in the process of going through existing optics several weeks after two cataracts procedures. I tell folks that it's like getting a new lease on life.A problem for me I didn't think about until they reminded me at Stein was that pre surgery my eyes had differing amounts of astigmatism. The problems I had adjusting my diopters on my cameras as I got older were because of my cataracts getting worse where everything was just plain fuzzy.
The first Eotech I bought, I put a battery in it, and turned it on, expecting to see a perfect "circle of death" only to see a lopsided "oval", so I sent the thing back telling them the circle was cockeyed and something was wrong w/it.
They sent it back to me, and I sent it back to them twice, and only then did it occur to me to go ahead and get a comprehensive eye exam which told me I had astigmatism (really bad in the left eye).
I wonder how many optics have gotten a "bum rap" because of something/some other issue rather than their true performance.
This was helpful, as some dubiousness still attends the March 1.5-15. Does the scope focus/parallax at least to ten yards? Thanks. F7I’ll chime in here. I bought my D15V42FIMLX (MIL, Tactical, Illumi, Shuriken lock) in Jan ‘24 to replace My Leupold X-5HD with offset red dot. The March improved with glass quality, length, locking turrets, illumination, and not having to cant between the offset. After some time behind the March, comparing them for hours to my (Mark 5HD 5-25, VX-5HD 3-15 and new Steiner T6XI 5-30) I was confused and frustrated.
First, the glass is better than the Steiner & Leupolds, fit & finish a big step up, crazy compact compared to even the 3-15, and the Shurken locks are solid. I was disappointed with the edge clarity, chromatic aberration, and depth of field when zooming and out…to the point of regretting my decision and wondering if I could return it. After rereading @Glassaholic impressive, detailed comparison on Snipers Hide, I found The Dark Lord of Optic’s video on diopter setting. I reset the diopter using 10x power in a dark room with an illuminated wall a couple feet beyond the objective. WOW! GAME CHANGER!
An innovative, industry leading design that nails all these features: locking, illumination, timepiece precision, exit pupil, field of view, weight, magnification range…..doing it while presenting it in a 10.6” package! The Length is the disrupter in today’s market. Make the March scope 3” longer like my VX5 and many IQ problems would diminish.
Patiently setting the diopter on 10x transformed the reticle clear edge to edge. Still a bit fuzzy at 15x, but from 1.5-13 the March took on a new personality. I then recalibrated my expectations: 1-6 is easy, 1-10 is tricky, 1.5-15 is nuts! Couple that with a SHORT footprint, and you’re going to have to finesse the parallax knob more due to the 10x magnification range. I’m used to max 6X on any scope I’ve ever utilized.
Look, I’m not the kind of guy that would get mad at a sports car I bought for using too much gas, or not being able to take that sports car off-roading - it’s about properly calibrating expectations. When I looked at the overall performance for my intended use, I’m impressed every time I get behind it. There’s nothing comparative that offers ALL these options in a complete package that I’m aware of. Which is why Glassaholic chose the comparative scopes he did. ATACR is great- make it 1.5-15, 6oz lighter, and 2” shorter. I’m not sure if this properly addresses your question, but I’m happy to add any detail that would be helpful. View attachment 8376598