the defendant has stated that his intent was to apply a citizens arrest upon the victim. The intent was to detain And that clearly hadn’t happened. When you’re detained, can you still be, “out for a jog”?
now you see the jogger on the left side of the road. Truck on the right. An individual in the back of the truck and individual outside the truck on the left side of the road. The camera angle breaks and scans far to the right losing sight of the participants and then comes back left to see the jogger swerve to the right going around the truck on the right than engaging the individual having come around the front of the truck Yes.
now there is the video and there is the statements the participants have provided. The statement includes they were looking for the person involved in the home burglaries. The jogger fit the description. The description is black male. That’s it. They didn’t have a photo or a mug shot. No description of clothing no birthmark or tattoo. Black male You keep referring to him as, “The Jogger”. It really discredits your posts of any and all validity. He wasn’t a jogger. He was a burglar. We have that from multiple camera angles and a positive ID from a family member, as well as priors and a mug shot, but again, almost all of that is irrelevant. He grabbed a gun and pulled it at himself.
that city is 25% African America. Figure half of that is male. Since most people aren’t good at judging age certainly at a distance that means in this small town of 80,000 people about 5,000 fit that description. And here comes one jogging down the street. We have that from multiple camera angles and a positive ID from a family member, as well as priors and a mug shot, but again, almost all of that is irrelevant. He grabbed a gun and pulled it at himself.
we didn’t see him do anything. We don’t know him personally and we haven’t identified him. He fits the discription of 1 in 8. We are under no authority. We have not be deputized or askedby any authority to do a damn thing.
All of that is irrelevant. He grabbed a gun and pulled it at himself. Local PD had enlisted the help of these men over the string of recent break-ins and trespasses.
we admit our intent is to arrest this person. We are armed. We do not identify our selves as a swarm officer under any official doctrine because we don’t have one. And we are going to arrest an individual.
That individual does not willingly submit to our attempt at arresting them. There is no decipherable audio in the video. You don’t know what they identified themselves as. All of that is irrelevant. He grabbed a gun and pulled it at himself.
and they end up dead Yes.
1st degree murder no
Probably not second degree either
manslaughter probably Doubtful. He grabbed a gun and pulled it at himself.
Most they see is (attempted) unlawful detention.