Hahaha Ant take on history being a Slav traitor always claiming Commies are the ones limiting him while throughout history being a traitor to his brother as always bitch to “flashy” outsiders. You were collective servant to Austrian empire and before that Polish overlords while your brothers fought same masters and yellow hordes. What you and your type hates the most is that your brothers stood firm, died but retained they honor while you sold out to anyone that came calling. Same as muslim Serbs in Bosnia now called Bosniaks (or what ever they call themselves now) which where either Serbs or Croats that accepted Osman dick and now claim some “cultural autonomy and own heritage and ancestry”. And whats worse than Serbs calling them “Us that enjoyed turk shaft up his ass”. Mirror is a bitch and cruel witness to those with weak mind and no stand…
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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
- Thread starter Darayavaus
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It's funny how you, who have never been to Ukraine, tell me about Zelenskyi's sins.
don't hold back let's fuck shit up
Sorry, but I didn't finish reading this verbal diarrhea
Slavs are an ethno-linguistic group of people, they are not brothers. Nobody owes anything to anyone. By the way, Muscovites are not Slavic according to linguistics. Even their names of the months of the year are not Slavic. What could be more natural than the folk names of basic things. It would be better if you had such a level in ballistics than in the dirty underpants of the Slavs
wow. how did you end up here? if you are an fbi troll,then the answer is obvious. if you are really from or in Ukraine,a more interesting question. stupid in either case. but,i suppose the many vids showing Ukrainian press gang "recruitment",z's wife buying a million $ car,the US paying the wages and pensions of Ukraine's bureaucracy,black market sell offs of US arms sent to Ukraine,huge payoffs to biden and son,sale of west Ukraine to blackrock-all that is just Russian propaganda?
am very familiar with the hx of the terror famine and other Stalinist killing in Ukraine in 20s/30s. i get long standing hate of Russia. that was then,this is now.
most here really don't care about events in eastern Europe and have no reason to. there is no threat to America's interest there and we are getting tired of being forced to pay for a war that we have no interest in and that your psycho rulers and ours could escalate to a nuclear war.
your obvious obnoxious trolling is not worth wasting any more band width on.
am very familiar with the hx of the terror famine and other Stalinist killing in Ukraine in 20s/30s. i get long standing hate of Russia. that was then,this is now.
most here really don't care about events in eastern Europe and have no reason to. there is no threat to America's interest there and we are getting tired of being forced to pay for a war that we have no interest in and that your psycho rulers and ours could escalate to a nuclear war.
your obvious obnoxious trolling is not worth wasting any more band width on.
For external audience i would imagine you don’t quite get the hatred. But its here and one of major reasons that motivates quite a few to die for. I don’t get it why the piece od shit here is jot yet dead but i would assume age or lack of cohones or some other major malfunction. This is what Putin speaks of when he says “denazification”. Part of us here has a serious self destruct mentality and cannot accept that for most of the misfortunes that befell us come from our own people screwing own poeple using foreign ideas. Be it wwi and austro-hungarian empire or commies right after. Not to mention particular hatred from centuries before (either in Balkans or especially in areas of Poland/Baltics/Russia) and some specially challenged ones prefer to transfer history to modern age and try to settle the score - Uncle Toms in short and as some kind of analogy you can understand, battle between house nigger and common type of nigger…
Dude I'm not an FBI troll.
I'm just pointing out the propaganda, for your own good.
But it seems that it is very difficult to communicate with people who have strong opinions but are extremley uneducated about the subjekt of their opinion and do not care to finde out more.
For example, like this.
He was a legal millionaire long before the presidency, because he managed his own film and media studio. The main complaint against him before the war was not corruption, but pro-Russianness.
The money is paid according to the agreement in Budapest to protect territorial and economic integrity.I already wrote break the deal and let's see what happens.
As for your president's son, this is none of my business. There are appropriate state institutions for that.
I wish everyone peace, goodness and harmony. I wish America to be a country of free armed people. And also not to succumb to destructive propaganda.
you're kidding, right?
the cia installed your regime specifically so ukraine would allow the west to plunder your country's natural resources.
do you know how much of ukraine zelensky has already sold to foreign entities?
it was supposed to be a bonus to destroy/replace russian energy markets and perhaps topple their economy
Are you going to provide evidence that the CIA installed a "regime" here?
By the way, the regime is when one person sits on the throne for 25 years.
Will I need to read another 700+ pages of a book for this?
You are very funny
I already led you to one of the most comprehensive pieces of literature that covers this very topic.
It extensively details how the US actively provoked this war with Russia, utilizing Ukraine as an expendable proxy.
it is well documented (but probably not well distributed in ukraine).
victoria nuland is on a recording with another state dept asshole as they were choosing your president.
anyway, sorry for what's going on over there, and any friends and family you have lost.
my taxes should not have been used to destroy your beautiful country.
Putin Lovers
As opposed to those living under our thumb. Gotcha. You're still brainwashed and I bet you still watch "The News." No, stupid. I don’t watch the news. Go live there.
www.snipershide.com
Two of the best contemporary summaries - Mearsheimer’s and Sachs’ - always go back to these two for review.
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probably already posted
https://www.theburningplatform.com/..._fPcraOxNPD3ykOo2Q_aem_GvmIjLyhJzqiOeau7CfBaQ
A truly historic statement.
It seems that Gorbachev lied to everyone all the time when he claimed that there was no deal.
The wonderful end of the war is only about two steps away.
It remains to show this beautiful piece of the deal.
The perpetrator pays compensation to Russia, as well as to Ukraine.
I'm unable to feel any sympathy towards you or your people, since I've been following the situation in Lugansk and Donbass since 2014.
You defined 1/3 of your population as subhumans and made their language and culture illegal overnight.
Your glorious maidan government shelled civilians for 8 years before this war started.
Maidan government was in fact NOT elected, they seized power, and USA supported it from long before, so yeah, you are definitely disposable tools of globalist cunts in US gov.
The expansion of NATO has not served any other purpose than to fill the coffers of multinational billionaires since the end of the cold war, it's an alliance that has NEVER done a defensive operation, only acts of aggression.
Really fucking wonder why that was a real red line for Russia...
You'd literally have to be braindead to think Russia had no justification for this war, it got pushed to the point that there was no other choice, and that was the whole point.
Your country is a sacrifice to destroy Europe-Russia relations forever, because that would make America lose relevance.
A Geostrategy for Eurasia | Zbigniew Brzezinski | Foreign Affairs | Vol. 76, No. 5 (Sep. - Oct., 1997) (https://www.jstor.org/stable/i20048193), pp. 50-64 (15 pages)
Foreign relations of the United States, 1948. General; the United Nations (in two parts) Volume I, Part 1 1948
Foreign relations of the United States, 1948. General; the United Nations (in two parts) Volume I, Part 2 1948
Foreign Relations of the United States, 1948, General; the United Nations, Volume I, Part 2
"Prevent the Reemergence of a New Rival" The Making of the Cheney Regional Defense Strategy, 1991-1992
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I'm really grateful for that. No kidding
Unfortunately, America made the wrong bet in 1991.
And as you yourself understand, when it comes to the world's third nuclear arsenal, there is no such option as "we're tired of everything, goodbye guys".
It doesn't work like that.
The problem is Putin's inability to negotiate
Zelensky also thought that it was enough to meet Putin and look him in the eyes and sign peace.
He promised it to the Ukrainians even louder than Trump. Because of this, he won the elections. This was the childish naivety of a person who was pro-Russia nuntil he saw the victims of the Buch massacre.
Zelensky tells what happened next in Friedman's podcast.
The same will happen with Trump.
The facts are there if you want to pull your head out of the sand and see them. You could have read the book in the time you spent on this thread but it seems like you don't really want the truth. We have a saying for people like you, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Enjoy your ignorance. It'll probably lead to your destruction.
Here.
Even way before the Munich speech.
No NATO expansion, as promised - but as we frequently do, we Americans lied.
“It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
Said to be a Henry Kissinger quote, but may have been taken out of context.
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By the way, Poroshenko also won an election at one time on the populist slogan of ending the counter-terrorist operation in 24 hours.
Ukraine's problem is not the CIA. And not even Russia.
The problem is that people from the pro-Russian environment became presidents.
With the exception of Yushchenko.
And under the pressure of the entire power, these guys began to understand that the independence of Ukraine is also in their interests as presidents. We in the west of Ukraine understand this common sentiment from diapers. Because here, unlike in the eastern regions, the extermination of our nation was not completed.
Ukraine's problem is not the CIA. And not even Russia.
The problem is that people from the pro-Russian environment became presidents.
With the exception of Yushchenko.
And under the pressure of the entire power, these guys began to understand that the independence of Ukraine is also in their interests as presidents. We in the west of Ukraine understand this common sentiment from diapers. Because here, unlike in the eastern regions, the extermination of our nation was not completed.
dude I do not dispute what is said in this book. I already answered this.
All countries try to catch fish in someone else's pond. Some succeed better than others.
This is not the main problem in the world.
The main thing is when agreements are violated.
But you were already independent, right?
All you had to do was maintain neutrality.
In a few years, a major branch of China’s Belt and Road Initiative was planned to pass through Ukraine (cherries on top from the destruction of Syria as well as Ukraine, ongoing terror attacks against similar infrastructure in Pakistan, etc.).
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