The war in Ukraine and Donbas

[37L1]

Nazis weren't the only ones jacking the troops up on drugs. Just saying.

The Use of Drugs During Wartime and Peace

Both Nazi Germany and the Allies used amphetamines during WWII, and one U.S. President used them during a time of peace.

interestingengineering.com

 

[theLBC]

 

[lariat]

Expected big Pharma to be front and center much earlier in the game

They call it "bad dream ketamine" for a reason. This is a super bad idea.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Next generation NAZIs doing pretty much exactly what the first generation NAZIs did.

Jack your troops up on drugs and tell them to go die for the Fuhrer...

Apparently the Ukraine still has more Nazis left to send to the front lines.

And it taking a page from the first generation Nazis, they are also probably soon to be kidnapping women, children, elderly and the disabled and forcing them to die for the Reich at gunpoint.

Seen that in real life, in Baku 10/94. That event almost pushed me over the edge, to get involved. Parents of the 14yo boy they were conscripting was beaten, the boy tied up & dragged out of their home. Something I'll never forget.

 

[Mr.BR]

Nazis weren't the only ones jacking the troops up on drugs. Just saying.

The Use of Drugs During Wartime and Peace

Both Nazi Germany and the Allies used amphetamines during WWII, and one U.S. President used them during a time of peace.

interestingengineering.com

Chemically jacking up troops is as old as warfare particularly if you count alcohol to drug section

US Army says its all kosher ............ hallucinogenic, addictive, and disorienting side effects .. never heard of her.

Battle Tested: Ketamine Proves its Worth on the Front Lines | Emergency Physicians Monthly

For more about Ketamine: Read Ketamine’s Troubled Past, Promising Future A 36-year-old soldier was injured when he stepped on a Victim Operated Improvised Explosive Device (VOIED). His injures included a right lower extremity amputation above the knee, complete degloving of the left posterior...

epmonthly.com

How Ketamine-based clinics are improving veterans’ mental health

Ketamine treatments have made enough inroads with mitigating PTSD symptoms that the VA recently expanded its relationship with Ketamine Wellness Centers.

www.militarytimes.com

 

[thejeep]

They call it "bad dream ketamine" for a reason. This is a super bad idea.

Nah they can fly all the way around the world like Peter Pan and back in 7min then proceed to walk around the trenches with 17foot tall steps at 0.5mph upon returning.

 

[wade2big]

Seen that in real life, in Baku 10/94. That event almost pushed me over the edge, to get involved. Parents of the 14yo boy they were conscripting was beaten, the boy tied up & dragged out of their home. Something I'll never forget.

The USA police/mil does the same thing and nobody cares. The only difference is our statist gov’t men just let the kid get a few years older before subjecting him and his family to gov’t tyranny. The forcible and violent draft has been a part if every major war the US has been involved in with millions affected. Don’t think for a second that US statists wouldn’t beat and/or kill an unwilling kid and his parents if they resisted this evil? They have and they will again. How anyone can lower themselves to the level of gov’t work is beyond my comprehension.

 

[W54/XM-388]

The USA police/mil does the same thing and nobody cares. The only difference is our statist gov’t men just let the kid get a few years older before subjecting him and his family to gov’t tyranny. The forcible and violent draft has been a part if every major war the US has been involved in with millions affected. Don’t think for a second that US statists wouldn’t beat and/or kill an unwilling kid and his parents if they resisted this evil? They have and they will again. How anyone can lower themselves to the level of gov’t work is beyond my comprehension.

Well you ask how does it happen?

Propaganda that most of the "good people" willingly gobble down.

Then all the "good folks" are the ones demanding some draft, demanding young men be taken at gunpoint and forced to go die for the politicians as some kind of "duty to your country" B.S.

Just look here on SH, you can't go a couple weeks without some "good person" waxing poetic about how much better life would be if the government could draft people at will and how badly they want to enslave others.

Jingoistic propaganda is one of the oldest tools in the tyrant handbook because it is one of the most useful, successful and gets all the sheeple foaming at the mouth, wanting to destroy anyone that thinks for themselves.

But hey if you think it's bad now, you should have seen the levels of "patriotic propaganda" for WWI
That was stuff even the Nazis admired.

It will happen again and once again all the stupid "good folks" will gleefully forge their own chains and send their most precious children at gunpoint to feed Moloch and the NWO will laugh loud and long as the "good folks" gladly genocide themselves.

 

[kthomas]

Expected big Pharma to be front and center much earlier in the game

There's ketamine therapies available here in the US (perhaps just experimentally at the time being). This isn't some new thing that popped up in Ukraine.

Ketamine as treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder: a review

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) continues to make headlines given multiple military engagements across the world and civilian traumas, and resultant PTSD development continues at an even pace. Currently, antidepressant and cognitive-behavioral therapy ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[kthomas]

40,000 Weapons Sent to Ukraine Have Gone Missing: Pentagon IG

pjmedia.com

They actively voted against having such measures.

Rand Paul wanted to implement an Inspector General in charge of monitoring and accounting for Ukraine aid, but it got voted down.

Which I thought was absolutely stunning, they didn't even want to know where the weapons and money were going.

Rand Paul Explains Why He Single-Handedly Blocked $40Bn Ukraine Aid

The Republican senator said he had taken an oath to the U.S. Constitution, and not to "any foreign nation."

www.newsweek.com

 

[thejeep]

The USA police/mil does the same thing and nobody cares. The only difference is our statist gov’t men just let the kid get a few years older before subjecting him and his family to gov’t tyranny. The forcible and violent draft has been a part if every major war the US has been involved in with millions affected. Don’t think for a second that US statists wouldn’t beat and/or kill an unwilling kid and his parents if they resisted this evil? They have and they will again. How anyone can lower themselves to the level of gov’t work is beyond my comprehension.

It’s for the discounts bro!

 

[Eostech]

Ukraine trying to organise peace talks means shit, it’ll be over when Russia gets what it wants.

 

[NoDopes]

They actively voted against having such measures.

Rand Paul wanted to implement an Inspector General in charge of monitoring and accounting for Ukraine aid, but it got voted down.

Which I thought was absolutely stunning, they didn't even want to know where the weapons and money were going.

Rand Paul Explains Why He Single-Handedly Blocked $40Bn Ukraine Aid

The Republican senator said he had taken an oath to the U.S. Constitution, and not to "any foreign nation."

www.newsweek.com

Politicians and their families are deep in corruption in Ukraine before the war started. You know they are getting massive kickbacks. Can't interfer with the grift.

 

[theLBC]

Ukraine trying to organise peace talks means shit, it’ll be over when Russia gets what it wants.

they supposedly launched an offensive along 500 miles and killed or wounded almost 1000 ukrainians (yesterday or today).

 

[Eostech]

they supposedly launched an offensive along 500 miles and killed or wounded almost 1000 ukrainians (yesterday or today).

I think it's fair to say that Odessa and Kharkov are on the wishlist. Personally I would cut Ukraine off from the black sea to further impoverish them while the Dnieper makes a nice boarder. My understanding is that those regions are mostly Russian speaking and any future insurgents are being killed right now in open warfare.

 

[theLBC]

 

[theLBC]

 

[Darayavaus]

Marines Knock NATO from Krynki Bridgehead after Ukraine Loses 20k - THE INTEL DROP

Marines Knock NATO from Krynki Bridgehead after Ukraine Loses 20k

www.theinteldrop.org

 

[Darayavaus]

"Now in Ukraine, tank duels have become rare; attacks of 20-100 vehicles, as in 1941-1945, are not observed at all. Russian and Ukrainian MBTs have turned into close-combat self-propelled guns with a range of 1-10 km. Tanks fire from open, and more often from closed positions. Eh, I should write down what the gunner-operators say about the elevation angle of 15 degrees!

A tank firing from an indirect position needs its own reconnaissance drone. Now there is simply no place for such a UAV, nor, especially, for its operator. But there should also be provision for charging the battery, a compartment for storing a spare UAV , etc. , etc.

That is, the only drone operator who can theoretically help tankers is external, and he will be on the radio channel. This is also a problem, since the radio stations on our T-72B3, T-80 and even T-90 are not really compatible with anything except other tanks.


This became clear before the SVO. And the T-14 Armata was equipped with its own Pterodactyl UAV. By the way, several reconnaissance and attack drones are placed behind the armor on the experimental Panther FK51 tank from Rheinmetall. But Armat units are still participating in the SVO, and the appearance of single Panthers in Ukraine is possible no earlier than the second half of 2024.

Why are our historians silent about the fact that the grandiose tank pogrom of 1941 occurred not least because the Germans had all their Panzekampfrwagens radio-equipped? And our commanders waved flags from their vehicles. Moreover, the Germans had command tanks. Moreover, in 1939-1942, their tanks did not have… guns. It was imitated by a wooden model, and the armament of the command tank was one machine gun.

In the fighting compartment of the German T-III, four (!) radio stations and a table for topographic maps, as well as additional observation devices, were installed. And some of these tanks also had Enigma encryption machines. The crew of the commander’s T-III consisted of 5 people: a commander, a staff officer, two radio operators and a driver.

Why not create a command tank for the SVO? It is clear that with our long-term construction, its design, manufacturing and testing will take several years. And manufacturing plants are loaded with orders for linear tanks.READ ALSO

But you can take the good old T-62 or even T-55 from warehouses? Remove the turret from the tank and weld a huge wheelhouse to the hull. Install navigation equipment, communication with GPS, and maybe even with reconnaissance satellites. And most importantly, place launchers for drones: reconnaissance, kamikaze, and, in the future, interceptors of enemy UAVs. No room left for a cannon? We’ll do without her.

Reconnaissance UAVs will monitor the terrain in the interests of both command and line tanks. Kamikaze drones will provide self-defense for the command tank and support for linear vehicles.


So, there are already enough chassis for command tanks, as well as communication equipment. Drones and launchers for them are in stock."

T-55 is back in service. A proven Soviet tank easily adapts to new realities - THE INTEL DROP

T-55 is back in service. A proven Soviet tank easily adapts to new realities

www.theinteldrop.org

 

[Mr.BR]

Marines Knock NATO from Krynki Bridgehead after Ukraine Loses 20k - THE INTEL DROP

Marines Knock NATO from Krynki Bridgehead after Ukraine Loses 20k

www.theinteldrop.org

This Krynki bridgehead op was crazy , small boats ferrying troops and supplies braving FPV strikes night and day . Who would have taught they could hold a small bridgehead without excessive losses is beyond me.

 

[Darayavaus]

This Krynki bridgehead op was crazy , small boats ferrying troops and supplies braving FPV strikes night and day . Who would have taught they could hold a small bridgehead without excessive losses is beyond me.

Ukraine needed it for a propaganda stunt & fundraiser. the casualties were irrelevant to Zelensky.

 

[theLBC]

 

[UKDslayer]

Just "practice". Just like China ssent a bunch of their troops to "practice" near Taiwan.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Well it seems the French that were smoked by Russia a day or so ago were not mercenaries after all. They were French army regs. Oh the shock to the none thinking, finding out more nato troops are openly fighting & dying in the krain.

 

[fpgt72]

Nazis weren't the only ones jacking the troops up on drugs. Just saying.

The Use of Drugs During Wartime and Peace

Both Nazi Germany and the Allies used amphetamines during WWII, and one U.S. President used them during a time of peace.

interestingengineering.com

Lookup green hornets and Vietnam, not the helicopter but Dexedrine. Same stuff.

How do you think B29 crews stayed awake for 20 hours on a long flight to Japan.

You are right they are not the only ones......but.

We learned there is a point when everything falls apart. The body says, nope no more if you try to keep it going on that stuff for too long. You need down time. And in the case of the US, at least in both of those examples the people had the down time.

Germans on the eastern front, nope not so much.

It is pretty interesting reading on this.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Well it seems the French that were smoked by Russia a day or so ago were not mercenaries after all. They were French army regs. Oh the shock to the none thinking, finding out more nato troops are openly fighting & dying in the krain.

Link?

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Kishogi or however you spell it. You know that dumbass that criticism of the Saudi crown got him a death sentence. Then he fled to the USA and was stooopid enough to walk into the Saudi embassy. Then the Pravda screamed and waled about an American journalist being killed.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Link?

You have to wait for it to translate, if it does not w/in 20 seconds refresh the page & it will.

edit to add,...course that only applies if you don't read Greek. It also can be converted into any language, also.

Η Ρωσία κάλεσε για εξηγήσεις τον Γάλλο πρέσβη: Μέλη του τακτικού γαλλι

Ραγδαία επιδείνωση εμφανίζουν οι σχέσεις Ρωσίας-Γαλλίας μετά το ρωσικό κτύπημα σε βάση μισθοφόρων στο Χάρκοβο με συνέπεια να σκοτωθούν πάνω από 60 και να τραυματιστούν τουλάχιστον 20 στρατιώτες. Η Μόσχα κάλεσε σήμερα τον Γάλλο πρέσβη στο υπουργείο εξωτερικών για εξηγήσεις σχετικά με τον...

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

 

[kthomas]

Well it seems the French that were smoked by Russia a day or so ago were not mercenaries after all. They were French army regs. Oh the shock to the none thinking, finding out more nato troops are openly fighting & dying in the krain.

WTF, there were active duty French troops in Ukraine'?

 

[kthomas]

You have to wait for it to translate, if it does not w/in 20 seconds refresh the page & it will.

edit to add,...course that only applies if you don't read Greek. It also can be converted into any language, also.

Η Ρωσία κάλεσε για εξηγήσεις τον Γάλλο πρέσβη: Μέλη του τακτικού γαλλι

Ραγδαία επιδείνωση εμφανίζουν οι σχέσεις Ρωσίας-Γαλλίας μετά το ρωσικό κτύπημα σε βάση μισθοφόρων στο Χάρκοβο με συνέπεια να σκοτωθούν πάνω από 60 και να τραυματιστούν τουλάχιστον 20 στρατιώτες. Η Μόσχα κάλεσε σήμερα τον Γάλλο πρέσβη στο υπουργείο εξωτερικών για εξηγήσεις σχετικά με τον...

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

That's fucked up. We (NATO) are playing with ...

 

[W54/XM-388]

I'm guessing the Ukraine has pretty much run out of intelligent NAZIs to send to the front and since they are now basically press ganging the old, weak, women, mentally disabled into being cannon fodder they don't have anyone to run all the high tech coffins on tracks and such that the European imperialists are handing them.

So I'm guessing the "advisors" are actually there to help run the equipment.

Much like there was some stories a bit ago about the Russians pulling actual German army troops out of the blowed up German tanks.
It seems like everyone wanted to keep that quiet as Germans in tanks rolling through the Ukraine en route to Russia kind of is how you bring up enough memories of WWII to get hot WWIII started up.

I just wonder how long the west will be able to keep covering up deaths as "training accidents" on the home front before their citizens understand it's all a lie.

It sounds like the Russians finally decided to stop playing games with the Western Imperialists and take the gloves off and say you come fight alongside the NAZIs th at are trying to kill us, well then you die like the NAZI scum.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

That's fucked up. We (NATO) are playing with ...

Fact, there has been nato leadership & troops involved from day one. Russia did not start this B/S the US did, when they lied to Russian leadership long ago. Once Russia say fuck you we're not having this and went in, the west back doored a deal & Russia paused, which most will remember. Then once Russia found out they were lied to again, about a so called piece deal they told the west you motherfuckers what to dance, we're game to the end. No matter where that leads. One of the reasons your seeing shit spring up all over after Russia paused, then realized they were lied to. For those who think there will be a winner out of all this, I have a bridge to sell you. The west owns everything that is happening and going to happen.

People need to stop swallowing our western propaganda, hook line & sinker and self research. If you really what world news or news about here in the US, get it from sources other than the US or UK. The truth is out there if you dig for it, just being handed the "so called news" what do you think they're going to feed you? Look at the so called leadership we are standing for. The US media does a fine job though finding out who is fucking who behind closed doors, and presenting the latest he said she said B/S. Real honest old time investigative reporting is dead here, and you will not find it at all if "Your News" comes from your TV or radio in the US, or an internet agenda presenting sounding room.

 

[eprom]

As a matter of facts, they were some french idiots in UKR since the first weeks of the invasion. A very few of them in the separatist team too.

As I watch the french TV because I am bored, a few months ago several french (ex military) provided live interviews on skype from undisclosed locations. I guess some of them where in the vicinity of Kharkiv. I doubt they are there (or were) for free and to distribute candies. Also a few combat footages where provided to the press by those guys. One of them was even claiming he was a sniper in the French Legion, he was carrying an AI near Kiev in the first weeks of the invasion.

I don't know how many of them are there, but I guess there is plenty of stupid.

 

[candymannetje]

WTF, there were active duty French troops in Ukraine'?

The Dutch army is also active in Ukraine.
Not in the fights but to collect information.

 

[candymannetje]

At the beginning of the war there was a guy from the Netherlands called Harry.
He decided to help Ukraine, so he went to Ukraine with his crossbow to fight the Russians.
When he got there the Ukrainians thought he was a Russian spy and beat the crap out of him.

 

[theLBC]

 

[mosin46]

i tend to think most of the above is true. i do doubt 1 mil military deaths but getting believable info from uke or mid east remains impossible. only english read/speak/write so am stumped there. my fall back is to believe anything that contravenes anything from the US gov about ANYTHING. so,that is my fallback position since or gov is incapable of and unwilling to broadcast any truth. i have "trusted" sources like everyone does. but i hate to take everything any of them say without other confirmation. so,even forming an opinion is a challenge. yes,i know my opinion is worthless and all opinions are pretty much like assholes. everyone has one and all stink. what to do? where to look?

 

[RUTGERS95]

Well it seems the French that were smoked by Russia a day or so ago were not mercenaries after all. They were French army regs. Oh the shock to the none thinking, finding out more nato troops are openly fighting & dying in the krain.

huh? what is this

 

[Mr.BR]

Says it all ,these folks don't give a flying fuck about Ukraine or Ukrainians

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Seeds sowed are stating to sprout.
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goo...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

 

[Longshot231]

Says it all ,these folks don't give a flying fuck about Ukraine or Ukrainians

Yet they won't do anything about the goatfuckers and black-ass terrorists from thrid world countries that are raping their women and vandalizing their countries. Why won't they send them back to the shit holes they came from?

Biden to deport Ukrainians from the US in 3... 2... 1...

 

[Longshot231]

Seeds sowed are stating to sprout.
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goo...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

June 22nd isn't too far away.

 

[Darayavaus]

You have to wait for it to translate, if it does not w/in 20 seconds refresh the page & it will.

edit to add,...course that only applies if you don't read Greek. It also can be converted into any language, also.

Η Ρωσία κάλεσε για εξηγήσεις τον Γάλλο πρέσβη: Μέλη του τακτικού γαλλι

Ραγδαία επιδείνωση εμφανίζουν οι σχέσεις Ρωσίας-Γαλλίας μετά το ρωσικό κτύπημα σε βάση μισθοφόρων στο Χάρκοβο με συνέπεια να σκοτωθούν πάνω από 60 και να τραυματιστούν τουλάχιστον 20 στρατιώτες. Η Μόσχα κάλεσε σήμερα τον Γάλλο πρέσβη στο υπουργείο εξωτερικών για εξηγήσεις σχετικά με τον...

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

that particular source has headlined some questionable things.....last year they said that 100,000 North Koreans were sent to fight in Ukraine.

nevertheless, yes NATO troops are absolutely in Ukraine and have been since day 1.

 

[Eostech]

This Krynki bridgehead op was crazy , small boats ferrying troops and supplies braving FPV strikes night and day . Who would have taught they could hold a small bridgehead without excessive losses is beyond me.

Biggest question after doing all that is why? It was just getting people killed for propaganda.

 

[mosin46]

europeans,mostly british,returned all russian troops captured by the germans and released on their defeat back to stalin. many didn't want to go,some suicided,all were sent to gulag or were executed. similar? what would have been done if canada returned all US citizens who left because of vietnam back to here? similar?

 

[RUTGERS95]

europeans,mostly british,returned all russian troops captured by the germans and released on their defeat back to stalin. many didn't want to go,some suicided,all were sent to gulag or were executed. similar? what would have been done if canada returned all US citizens who left because of vietnam back to here? similar?

unfortunately no, we'd of not shot them as they deserve

 

[W54/XM-388]

unfortunately no, we'd of not shot them as they deserve

So you wanted to kill folks that didn't feel like being enslaved to go kill others and die in a stupid pointless war of greed and profit, killing folks they never met before that were no threat to our own country? All for the glory of the MIC?
And all that dying and killing others in the end for nothing.

I'm on the record as being vehemently against enslaving people to go kill and die for the power and riches of the elites.
Apparently too many others are brainwashed into thinking enslaving people to go die and kill for propaganda is such a wonderful thing.

 

[theLBC]

fish and chips gonna get pricey.

 

[Darayavaus]

fish and chips gonna get pricey.

England has been a dick country for so long, it amazes me that anyone is on good terms with them. I read that Javier Milei is making a point about Argentina wanting the Malvinas/Falklands back.

 

[RUTGERS95]

So you wanted to kill folks that didn't feel like being enslaved to go kill others and die in a stupid pointless war of greed and profit, killing folks they never met before that were no threat to our own country? All for the glory of the MIC?
And all that dying and killing others in the end for nothing.

I'm on the record as being vehemently against enslaving people to go kill and die for the power and riches of the elites.
Apparently too many others are brainwashed into thinking enslaving people to go die and kill for propaganda is such a wonderful thing.

take the faggotry and hyperbole out of your mouth when you talk to me

what commies and faggots like you, who throw around terms like enslaved, stupid, pointless and more, forget is that for each of those scumbag pos dodgers, someone else went in their place. They deserve neither my respect nor my citizenship or the protections of our gov't.

you can fuck off like them and don't ever address me with that faggotry in your mouth again