don't know where this needs to go,so...got involved in a trade with another member. 200r 147 eld for 200r 175 gmm. both happy. mine gets here ok. he PMs me asking-did you forget 4 boxes or send 2 boxes? he got 120r only. smart guy- he took doc pics and weighed the box. 12.4 lbs shipped 6.4 lbs arrived. i now must go thru the claim process and hope to get some of his $ back. if you send UPS in the future-insure the shit out of it. at least 20% over trade/sale value. 1 of my probs is the very dim bulbs at local ups contract loc. need to tell them at least 3x that it is ammo. and force them to become conscious so you can add and be charged for add'l insurance. more luck at my local PO. 80% of the folks are awake,alert and well oriented. 20% ya gotta watch. i always ship guns priority insured (for like 15yrs). NPs. ammo has to go ups. so,more ins $ in my future.