This black cloud will not leave
- Thread starter Lowlight
- Start date
Been saying that for years. They all in cahoots together. You keep one long enough and you won’t even be able to surf the web unless you put Linux or something in it. Forced updates and upgrades. Same thing with cars. I read some Jeep owners saying theirs were fine till they took them in and the mechanics upgraded/updated the computers and then they started having all kinds of crap going on with them. Funny thing is, mine is still on the factory tune and good to go. Nothing like they reported. I think it is without a doubt purposely done. It’s the new biz model and it’s wrong.
I do this stuff for a professional living. Understanding and predicting hardware failure rates over time is a huge part of making money or loosing your rear end.
Then again I generally deal in systems with built in redundancy and failure tolerance designed for long term stability with rapid field replacement capability of all the parts. A 10 year service lifespan on systems across one or several owners is the norm. Machines in that range are more often than not replaced because something else can do more in the same space / power budget than them not working.
That being said when one depends on computers greatly, it is always advised to have redundant machines available and be running systems that can be rapidly repaired.
Apple stuff, especially much of the newer stuff is designed with a much shorter upgrade cycle in mind to maximize revenue.
Have you ever messed with boot camp? I have been using it for years and find that windows seems to run better on my Mac. I currently have a Mac book pro and partioned the hard drive in half, Mac on one side and windows on the other.
A Barrett M99 is a puppy and an M82 is a kitten compared to a DT in 50. They are zero fun whatsoever, and are counterproductive to the marksmanship fundamentals.
They finally saw that picture of you shooting at their mountain back in the day...
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
The grey beards i worked with often spoke of gremlins in the systems. I think I've learned how to communicate with them.
Incidently, LL probably resumed normal operation after I became aware of this thread and had time to quantify it.
That being said @W54/XM-388 is not wrong. Redundancy is nice in that i can accidentaly knock my coffee over onto my work station and be on the meeting 13 seconds early like nothing happened.
Last edited by a moderator:
While you are at the MAC store getting a bunch of new gear that plays nicely together , ask about an education
discount . Been a while since I shopped at Apple , but last time I did I got a discount for using the device for
" educational purposes ' . I hear ya about the 50 DT , its quite cunty to shoot .
discount . Been a while since I shopped at Apple , but last time I did I got a discount for using the device for
" educational purposes ' . I hear ya about the 50 DT , its quite cunty to shoot .
Complexity of modern computers is off the charts. Attempting to cope, people resort to superstitious models of cause and effect, imaginary diagnosis, goofy conspiracy claims, etc. Some of the unsupported and possibly unsupportable assertions regarding LL's problem might as well be cavemen explaining self-assuredly why the Sun rises in the morning. Hopefully the "genius" bar has product-specific SMEs that can recognize and fix the actual cause. If all else fails, try dunking them in the river until they confess it's all smoke and mirrors!
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
My guess would be the programs LL is using probably don't have a port to Linux yet (maybe never).
Some of the graphics / AV production programs pretty much tie you to either Apple, Microsoft or Adobe for good basically.
Back end render farms however are a different story.
We *ALL* hate Windoze but the sad truth is that one can still have a 10 year old computer running Windows 7 and as long as the Hardware holds out we can get work done on them.
With Apple, when the new stuff comes out the old stuff won't play with it. So it's a forced upgrade. Or you have stuff that doesn't work anymore.
VooDoo
With Apple, when the new stuff comes out the old stuff won't play with it. So it's a forced upgrade. Or you have stuff that doesn't work anymore.
VooDoo
My 6 yr old Mac Pro is not restricted from running any Apple software. i have all the newest installed, it's been flawless.
Based on what I am seeing the logic board, video cards, is bust. Yesterday just watching a YT video killed it mid way through
6 years of heavy lifting, tons of video editing, I cannot complain, I got more than my monies worth
Genius bar is 1PM MST, well see, either a fix is available or a new computer is coming home
Based on what I am seeing the logic board, video cards, is bust. Yesterday just watching a YT video killed it mid way through
6 years of heavy lifting, tons of video editing, I cannot complain, I got more than my monies worth
Genius bar is 1PM MST, well see, either a fix is available or a new computer is coming home
Cool. Interested to see what they say. The MP's have come down in price a little it seems. They used to be just ridiculously crazy priced, but now the 8-core factory config is $4K. High, but not like it used to be.
LOL! I know you hate Windows, but I think one of these would solve the problem of performance.
https://portexa.com/products/netpac/
I've looked at one that was fitted with 84tb of storage, 1tb of RAM and dual Xeons with 22 cores each (ours are currently a fraction of that performance and price). Talk about smoking performance. Of course the price tag was north of $100k, but man it was smoking fast when running real time analytics and 6 streams of real time video...all in a 23lb portable, ruggedized package.
Anyways, good luck on the recovery. There's never a convenient time for a system to go down.
https://portexa.com/products/netpac/
I've looked at one that was fitted with 84tb of storage, 1tb of RAM and dual Xeons with 22 cores each (ours are currently a fraction of that performance and price). Talk about smoking performance. Of course the price tag was north of $100k, but man it was smoking fast when running real time analytics and 6 streams of real time video...all in a 23lb portable, ruggedized package.
Anyways, good luck on the recovery. There's never a convenient time for a system to go down.
Make sure it’s getting;
1. Spark
2. Fuel
3. Compression
1. Spark
2. Fuel
3. Compression
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
LOL! I know you hate Windows, but I think one of these would solve the problem of performance.
https://portexa.com/products/netpac/
I've looked at one that was fitted with 84tb of storage, 1tb of RAM and dual Xeons with 22 cores each (ours are currently a fraction of that performance and price). Talk about smoking performance. Of course the price tag was north of $100k, but man it was smoking fast when running real time analytics and 6 streams of real time video...all in a 23lb portable, ruggedized package.
Anyways, good luck on the recovery. There's never a convenient time for a system to go down.
Dayum, I'm not even sure what type of work would warrant that type of horsepower in that package. That's insane!
I am looking around, appears for video I can get away with a 2019 iMac i9 if I max it out, and it's still 1/2 the cost of the iMac Pro, so there is that.
With my laptop, because I have the 13" I would need the EGPU and that looks like it might be worth it for a few different elements,
But we'll see leave in a bit
With my laptop, because I have the 13" I would need the EGPU and that looks like it might be worth it for a few different elements,
But we'll see leave in a bit
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
I could tell you...but then I'd have to kill you.
Depending on what it is, I still might take you up on it
Frank, It is Tommy Knockers.-- by God.
They have been displaced by the Hoards and moved out of the mines down hill to infest your computer. FM Best I Got.??
They have been displaced by the Hoards and moved out of the mines down hill to infest your computer. FM Best I Got.??
Update
No resolution,
Of course everything worked the USB Ports which were dead, worked,
the video, which was shutting the computer down, worked
I left it overnight to let them do an advanced hardware check
The Genius bar thinks it might be a software conflict, and I am not checking my monitor as that is the only other thing I recently changed and part of the problem was with the monitor and restarting it under load.
If they find nothing, only other step is to do a clean install and see if that clears it up, but as of now, hardware passed
No resolution,
Of course everything worked the USB Ports which were dead, worked,
the video, which was shutting the computer down, worked
I left it overnight to let them do an advanced hardware check
The Genius bar thinks it might be a software conflict, and I am not checking my monitor as that is the only other thing I recently changed and part of the problem was with the monitor and restarting it under load.
If they find nothing, only other step is to do a clean install and see if that clears it up, but as of now, hardware passed
My last two, one iMac and one MacBook, both died from the same issue. A bogus flash loaded into them and crashed the hard drive. As bad as I have distrusted the iCloud, I must say it saved my ass in both cases.
Interesting. No new external drives, USB mics, etc. added in a while? Never mind the power draw on a single USB bus... It only has a single USB Root Port split off into 4 ports. Plenty of Thunderbolt it seems!
External powered USB hub would be worth looking at, if all else fails. Without one, you are limited to 900mA (.9A) to power everything.
I am surprised there so many iMac users here. Most stable reliable platform I have ever used. I have a external drive for back up only and it uses time machine which is pretty cool. I leave mine on for weeks without reboots or issues.
Maybe a software glitch or maybe a memory or drive issue that only happens when stressed. An overnight stay in the Apple Hospital should take care of you.
The only thing I don't like about Apple is the bite it takes from the wallet. Stability is worth it though.
Maybe a software glitch or maybe a memory or drive issue that only happens when stressed. An overnight stay in the Apple Hospital should take care of you.
The only thing I don't like about Apple is the bite it takes from the wallet.
Stability is worth it though.
I was (am) using an external USB dock, a bigger OWC version.
The only thing new was a monitor upgrade from my original Apple Monitor to a 4k LG Curved, and in fact, I am running it now on my 13" MacBook Pro to see how it drives it.
The thunderbolt ports were fine, I was running my OWC dock off that with my USB but originally it stopped working yesterday.
Not even my keyboard worked yesterday with just that plugged in alone.
Restarts were not working, like it could not drive my monitor, but we both felt the monitor should not have drained the system.
The only thing new was a monitor upgrade from my original Apple Monitor to a 4k LG Curved, and in fact, I am running it now on my 13" MacBook Pro to see how it drives it.
The thunderbolt ports were fine, I was running my OWC dock off that with my USB but originally it stopped working yesterday.
Not even my keyboard worked yesterday with just that plugged in alone.
Restarts were not working, like it could not drive my monitor, but we both felt the monitor should not have drained the system.
When you were a Marine Corp sniper did you have any idea how much you were going to learn about the ins and outs of video editing?
when he was a MC Sniper they didnt have video yet, just 8mm black and white.
Still no word,
Tried calling, said it was still being looked at.
On the plus side I got my email on my laptop fixed, always had an error, mainly from the system populating the information across the systems. But for a while I had super annoying issue with my email which I got fixed today.
So if they find nothing I will do a clean install and see what happens as I made a Mojave Boot disc, so can do a complete clean install.
Another plus for Apple, at the top of their page on the site, they have a new trade in program and my Mac Pro is worth $1560 towards a new Mac, that is not shabby
I have been doing trade ins on the laptops through PowerMax, they give me $650 for my old laptops, now that Apple is doing the same that is not a bad deal. Takes the edge off buying a new Mac Pro if I have too
Tried calling, said it was still being looked at.
On the plus side I got my email on my laptop fixed, always had an error, mainly from the system populating the information across the systems. But for a while I had super annoying issue with my email which I got fixed today.
So if they find nothing I will do a clean install and see what happens as I made a Mojave Boot disc, so can do a complete clean install.
Another plus for Apple, at the top of their page on the site, they have a new trade in program and my Mac Pro is worth $1560 towards a new Mac, that is not shabby
I have been doing trade ins on the laptops through PowerMax, they give me $650 for my old laptops, now that Apple is doing the same that is not a bad deal. Takes the edge off buying a new Mac Pro if I have too
Maybe they'll let you know sometime today or tomorrow.
Too bad the Hackintosh (https://hackintosh.com) is finicky. You could literally build way above their specs and still run MacOS. The hardware used is very particular though.
Too bad the Hackintosh (https://hackintosh.com) is finicky. You could literally build way above their specs and still run MacOS. The hardware used is very particular though.
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
Yeah, that might just work. Be interesting to see how well the video pass-through truly works though considering it's still virtualized instead of bare-metal.
Been reading about about the EGPU Stuff and a lot of guys have them running on an older Mac
There is dedicated forums and information about setting up an Egpu on the Mac Pro, guys have done it, but seems like a hassle to get it to work and most of the articles I have read are at least 1.5 years old, very little recent information
Apples does not support running an eGPU on Thunderbolt 1 & 2 so you have to install a script and then manually set up the software to work, doable, but seems self defeating. Yes I can get up and running pretty quick with an eGPU but the risk seems to outweigh the rewards
the trade in bonus seems like a smarter path depending what the verdict is
There is dedicated forums and information about setting up an Egpu on the Mac Pro, guys have done it, but seems like a hassle to get it to work and most of the articles I have read are at least 1.5 years old, very little recent information
Apples does not support running an eGPU on Thunderbolt 1 & 2 so you have to install a script and then manually set up the software to work, doable, but seems self defeating. Yes I can get up and running pretty quick with an eGPU but the risk seems to outweigh the rewards
the trade in bonus seems like a smarter path depending what the verdict is
No doubt, you're right. As busy as you said you've been too you probably just want something to work instead of having to dick with it for hours on end. 6 years, not too shabby of a lifespan over all... if it comes to putting the old girl down, LOL.
Maybe you could ask my wife to advise you early into using computers apparently she thought I was the go to guy for technology and had a issue with it not working I said what happened she said it asked me if I want to format the disc her being a aries she thought that sounds good you know the rest of the story.
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
No clue. You could give me the latest greatest fuckload-of-money mac piece of shit and I wouldn't use the goddamn thing even if I had to.
Speaking from experience here.
I heard from some other mac nerds that this was a viable option, though. YMMV.
What?
i have 3 MacBook PROs and the oldest is 7 years old and they all still work quite nicely. At some point the HW becomes incompatible with the latest OS. That is a good thing because at some point the HW cannot keep up with the architectural changes of the latest OS.
Windows fatal flaw is that they perpetually carry the baggage of 16 bit computers. The mantra "No machine left behind" fits perfectly. It works worse than the mantra as applied to children.
At some point the CPU/Memory/Bus architectures become drastically different. They have to to result in the gains you see. However, Windows says, no problem we can deal. It is the shittiest OS out there. I run Parallels on my Mac to run Windows 10 so I can run Coldbore and some specialized engineering CAD applications. Every time I turn on Windows, there is a 20 minute update cycle that forces reboots. It plain sucks.
Q
QuickNDirty
Guest
Lol...
FIFY
You might try installing virtualbox (or any of a number of free alternatives) in order to run Windows inside a virtual machine which you can snapshot at a point in time that it's running with coldbore already pulled up. Nearly instant access to those windows things you care about, without the auto-update bullshit interfering. The CAD stuff might work, too, but if it relies heavily on the GPU your pass-thru options might not fit the bill. Worth a shot, anyway, if only to avoid ever having to rely on Windows as a primary OS for any reason.
Similar threads
