This definitely sucks. Submarine lost.

[TexPatriot]

The psi in the cylinder of a diesel engine is 300-500 to achieve combustion.

The psi on the sub was 5,800 psi, more than 10x that of a diesel engine.

Quoted from Quora.com:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

 

[nikonNUT]

The psi in the cylinder of a diesel engine is 300-500 to achieve combustion.

The psi on the sub was 5,800 psi, more than 10x that of a diesel engine.

Quoted from Quora.com:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

I believe Bob Ballard estimated implosion would occur at 19000 MPH.

 

[Snipe260]

The psi in the cylinder of a diesel engine is 300-500 to achieve combustion.

The psi on the sub was 5,800 psi, more than 10x that of a diesel engine.

Quoted from Quora.com:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

The navy reported finding the first victim

 

[NoDopes]

The psi in the cylinder of a diesel engine is 300-500 to achieve combustion.

The psi on the sub was 5,800 psi, more than 10x that of a diesel engine.

Quoted from Quora.com:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Maybe, that really cool plexiglass port gave them a little warning first....

 

[7.62willdo]

The psi in the cylinder of a diesel engine is 300-500 to achieve combustion.

The psi on the sub was 5,800 psi, more than 10x that of a diesel engine.

Quoted from Quora.com:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Navy subs crush at 2000’ +- this sub was at 10000+- much different situation

 

[TexPatriot]

The navy reported finding the first victimView attachment 8168388

Thats probably the biggest particle of matter you would find. What didn't turn into ash became plankton.

Trying to picture what happened is like trying to imagine the events taking place inside a rifle chamber when a firing pin strikes a primer. There was probably a bright flash literally faster than lightening and then a big bubble of air like in a water cooler.

 

[Jscb1b]

I saw the same. Could not make out any sort of gasket. Appeared to be titanium on titanium. Flat to flat. Could not make out any taper either. Add in a few undersized fasteners way too far apart, only accessible from the outside and you have yourself a sub.

Casket.

 

[Bender]

 

[TexPatriot]

View attachment 8168405

According to the Wall Street Journal:

"A top secret military acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard what the U.S. Navy suspected was the Titan submersible implosion hours after the submersible began its voyage, officials involved in the search said.

The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after the submersible’s disappearance Sunday, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday..."

And yet, they didn't disclose what they were listening for and heard, allowing millions to be wasted on "rescue" efforts while the missing crew's families agonized waiting for any news. Anything to distract from FJB's bribery case and Hunter's plea deal.

 

[Bender]

 

[Bender]

Women engineers Figuring if screw holes are ok in laminated carbon fiber.

 

[vh20]

Nope, you’re the first. Excellent VH-1 moment, VH 20!

Sirhr

Thank you, Sir...hr. But your lyrical re-creation really takes the cake. Been singing it all afternoon.

 

[Jgunner]

Knowing a few people who went into big long metal tubes AND spheres for a check said something like that will make noise on the way down. Thats from a guy who went 5,000' down, but he was talking to his buddy who has been 20,000' down.

They theorize it wasn't just calm and then pop, but audible noises for a bit, then pop. Pretty sure they knew they were boned, at least for a little while.

 

[Doc68]

Well this guy didn't want to hire white people.....so fuck him and everyone else.....


This isn't sad one bit.......period.

Doc

 

[Milf Dots]

 

[Milf Dots]

If a minisub implodes then explodes, and there's nobody alive to hear it, does it make a sound?

 

[pmclaine]

That was also posted here a couple of days ago... As usual SH is way ahead of the curve. And it wasn't strain gauges, it was acoustic sensors that were supposed to hear 'cracking.' And alert them to surface. Ah ha hah haha ha.

The reporter who asked about recovering the bodies should be towed out to sea and thrown overboard tied to a Fiat.

Jesus are these people really this dumb?

Sirhr

That amount of dumb is how you find people paying to go on a hobbiest special submersible.

If they knew reality they wouldn't go.

 

[748rpilot]

You may be dead, have killed several other people, destroyed a few families, cost yet more people millions of dollars and destroyed your company...but at least you didn't hire any "wy peepo"!!

#DEI #winning #retards

 

[TexPatriot]

And the o-ring seals? Designed for depth with rings that tighten as pressure increases?

Were they just expecting pressure to sandwich the flanges together?

Of course they were. What was I thinking?

Sirhr

The Space Shuttle Challanger was brought down by a .50 O-ring.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

The Space Shuttle Challanger was brought down by a .50 O-ring.

Because they were using deep sea diving technology for aerospace ;-)

And here they are using aerospace technology for diving!!!

There are 'O-rings' and there are O-rings. The ones for deep diving are metal and spherical and pressure makes them tighter. See the designs for cuffs on saturation diving hard-suits. Incredibly cool designs that allow rotation and movement.

The lack of ANYTHING... even scrolls, is disturbing. And bolts a foot apart??? Those bolts should be every 2 - 3 inches! And flanged. Everything about this is appalling.

And if that TV really is screwed in carbon fiber (I can't believe it is...) then, wow.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[TexPatriot]

Knowing a few people who went into big long metal tubes AND spheres for a check said something like that will make noise on the way down. Thats from a guy who went 5,000' down, but he was talking to his buddy who has been 20,000' down.

They theorize it wasn't just calm and then pop, but audible noises for a bit, then pop. Pretty sure they knew they were boned, at least for a little while.

Shh...SSHHH...there it is again. BOOM!

And you had to sit on the one holer one at a time to look out through the 7" plexiglass.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Knowing a few people who went into big long metal tubes AND spheres for a check said something like that will make noise on the way down. Thats from a guy who went 5,000' down, but he was talking to his buddy who has been 20,000' down.

They theorize it wasn't just calm and then pop, but audible noises for a bit, then pop. Pretty sure they knew they were boned, at least for a little while.

Hey, what's that noise?
Don't worry. It does that all the time.
Ohh okay.
POP!!

 

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

View attachment 8168357

The pressure vessel was two-piece and bolted together at 1 foot intervals? That can’t be the actual Vehicle… that has to be a mock-up. No one could be that stupid.

Sirhr

The flange only looks to be about 1/2 to 3/4" thick
WTF

 

[748rpilot]

Because they were using deep sea diving technology for aerospace ;-)

And here they are using aerospace technology for diving!!!

There are 'O-rings' and there are O-rings. The ones for deep diving are metal and spherical and pressure makes them tighter. See the designs for cuffs on saturation diving hard-suits. Incredibly cool designs that allow rotation and movement.

The lack of ANYTHING... even scrolls, is disturbing. And bolts a foot apart??? Those bolts should be every 2 - 3 inches! And flanged. Everything about this is appalling.

And if that TV really is screwed in carbon fiber (I can't believe it is...) then, wow.

Cheers,

Sirhr

You sounding a lot like a 50 year old, white guy Engineer in here....

 

[JBoomhauer]

The flange only looks to be about 1/2 to 3/4" thick
WTF

And it has been counterbored for the fasteners. So subtact 5/16 or so.

 

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

And it has been counterbored for the fasteners. So subtact 5/16 or so.

View attachment 8168500

In that pic looks like the flange is welded to the nose piece with a single pass bead.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

In that pic looks like the flange is welded to the nose piece with a single pass bead.

That's JB Weld

 

[748rpilot]

 

[Fx51LP308]

There is a video of the sub owner on youtube now, saying how his company is different. His company is young and racially diverse, and he states the other sub companies hire those 50 year old white ex Navy nuclear submarine guys, but not him no, I mean if your at crush depth why would you need a ex Navy nuclear submarine white guy. In addition his submarine is controlled by a video game controller that Costs $29.99.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually know what the true "Crush Depth" rating of these submersibles are and whether or not that was known/considered prior to this voyage? I don't see it being 12,000 ft or whatever the Titanic depth is. As a cave diver, depth and pressure are things we must always keep in mind. The deeper you go, the greater the PP02 and the lesser F02 you need in your breathing gas. How deep can one dive on pure 100% O2? Only 20 ft. That's it. Otherwise, it's a potential OxTox situation. You'd have to use something like a 10-70 mix to get down to about 300 ft, and only for like 9 minutes before having to start back up again to begin deco.

My sincere condolences to the surviving families of the victims.

 

[NoDopes]

Then it suffered further problems in 2020 and had to be completely rebuilt after tests showed signs of ‘cyclic fatigue’ that reduced the hull’s depth rating to 3,000 meters, which was well short of what it required to get close to the Titanic.

Hey, dive slots still available for 2024!

 

[7.62willdo]

Pure O2 under pressure is poisonous and explosive…….

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Whale shit (pronounced like Well Shit) it looks like Maggot has joined them at the bottom.

 

[theLBC]

James Cameron blasts hunt for Titanic sub as 'nightmarish charade'

Mr Cameron, who has visited the world's most famous seawreck 30 times, said the tragedy this week has parallels with the the Titanic disaster, where the captain repeatedly ignored warnings.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Jgault]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually know what the true "Crush Depth" rating of these submersibles are and, whether or not that was known/considered prior to this voyage? I don't see it being 12,000 ft or whatever the Titanic depth is. As a cave diver, depth and pressure are things we must always keep in mind. The deeper you go, the greater the PP02 and the lesser F02 you need in your breathing gas. How deep can one dive on pure 100% O2? Only 20 ft. That's it. Otherwise, it's a potential OxTox situation. You'd have to use something like a 10-70 mix to get down to about 300 ft, and only for like 9 minutes before having to start back up again to begin deco.

My sincere condolences to the surviving families of the victims.

From what I’ve read the guy who built it didn’t really know, from everything I’ve seen he just through things together and hoped for the best. The thing collapsed like a beer can, but there was a laundry list of fatal flaws. There was a lawsuit from a former employee from the article I believe he was a engineer, because he refused to certify the submersible because it was underpowered to maintain sufficient power to make it down and then back up, when he refused to sign off the CEO fired him, so I seriously doubt the CEO or anyone actually did any really testing or competent designing to determine what depth it could withstand.

 

[BCP]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually know what the true "Crush Depth" rating of these submersibles are

They took that one to the titanic twice. Third time was a charm I guess. The goofy CEO was talking about building one to go to the bottom of the mariana trench.

 

[Ronws]

They took that one to the titanic twice. Third time was a charm I guess. The goofy CEO was talking about building one to go to the bottom of the mariana trench.

I like marianna sauce on my pasta.

No, wait....

 

[TexPatriot]

James Cameron blasts hunt for Titanic sub as 'nightmarish charade'

Mr Cameron, who has visited the world's most famous seawreck 30 times, said the tragedy this week has parallels with the the Titanic disaster, where the captain repeatedly ignored warnings.

www.dailymail.co.uk

It was all to detract from this retarded fuck and his scumbag family of criminals.

Here he puts his hand over his heart while they play India's Nat'l Anthem.

Biden oddly puts hand on heart for India anthem at Narendra Modi welcome

President Biden caused an awkward spectacle Thursday morning, putting his hand on his heart for the Indian national anthem as he welcomed Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the White House. The 80-yea…

nypost.com

 

[isofahunter]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually know what the true "Crush Depth" rating of these submersibles are and, whether or not that was known/considered prior to this voyage? I don't see it being 12,000 ft or whatever the Titanic depth is. As a cave diver, depth and pressure are things we must always keep in mind. The deeper you go, the greater the PP02 and the lesser F02 you need in your breathing gas. How deep can one dive on pure 100% O2? Only 20 ft. That's it. Otherwise, it's a potential OxTox situation. You'd have to use something like a 10-70 mix to get down to about 300 ft, and only for like 9 minutes before having to start back up again to begin deco.

My sincere condolences to the surviving families of the victims.

The view port was rated for 1300m which is a bit shy of the operating depth of 3800m. The carbon fiber hul was never tested in a formally, all this from the 2018 lawsuit. Having shot carbon fiber arrows for decades and knowing how they can go from fine to shattered in one cycle, cannot imagine using in that environment.

 

[BCP]

The view port was rated for 1300m which is a bit shy of the operating depth of 3800m. The carbon fiber hul was never tested in a formally, all this from the 2018 lawsuit. Having shot carbon fiber arrows for decades and knowing how they can go from fine to shattered in one cycle, cannot imagine using in that environment.

There's a reason subs are made out of steel and titanium. Alvin is literally 60 years old and still making dives.

 

[hollowoutadime]

The view port was rated for 1300m which is a bit shy of the operating depth of 3800m. The carbon fiber hul was never tested in a formally, all this from the 2018 lawsuit. Having shot carbon fiber arrows for decades and knowing how they can go from fine to shattered in one cycle, cannot imagine using in that environment.

there you are again - being practical. You sound like a fifty year old white guy.

 

[Jigstick]

What happened to maggot

 

[TexPatriot]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually know what the true "Crush Depth" rating of these submersibles are and, whether or not that was known/considered prior to this voyage? I don't see it being 12,000 ft or whatever the Titanic depth is. As a cave diver, depth and pressure are things we must always keep in mind. The deeper you go, the greater the PP02 and the lesser F02 you need in your breathing gas. How deep can one dive on pure 100% O2? Only 20 ft. That's it. Otherwise, it's a potential OxTox situation. You'd have to use something like a 10-70 mix to get down to about 300 ft, and only for like 9 minutes before having to start back up again to begin deco.

My sincere condolences to the surviving families of the victims.

I don't know, man. After the Russian got eaten by the Tiger Shark, I wouldn't know what the pressure is over 18".

Fuck the ocean.

 

[TexPatriot]

What happened to maggot

He imploded.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

So Trustfund McGee III doesn't make it with his astronaut career and decides to make an expensive unsafe toy to charge other filthy rich people to go on expensive sight seeing tours to a mass underwater grave site where pressures are so high human bodies turn into tiny particles instantly, and it gets some people killed. I don't really see what's so interesting about this but I do hope that his estate and company gets the bill for the search and recovery assets that were used due to his recklessness.

 

[frank320]

ATF is now salivating and thinking: "Hmmm, looks like carbon fiber is dangerous and carbon fiber barrels and chassis systems should be regulated as NFA items. We need to regulate all firearms related carbon fiber uses for the safety of all Americans."

 

[sirhrmechanic]

You sounding a lot like a 50 year old, white guy Engineer in here....

I resemble that remark…

 

[Jgunner]

Hey, what's that noise?
Don't worry. It does that all the time.
Ohh okay.
POP!!

Very VERY likely the exact conversation....

 

[TexPatriot]

Here's where Stockton Rush, owner and CEO, supposedly got his idea and inspiration.

 

[hlee]

He imploded.

What happened to maggot

n2ishun also gone. They had a whole MAD love story, if I remember correctly. Maybe they both flew too close to the sun...

 

[pmclaine]

The US Navy earlier this week, before being told to STFU until after Hunter is in the clear.