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Suppressors Thunder Beast Dominus
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Hi,
The computer-estimate ETA's for the Dominuses right now will not be accurate. They are still good for the Ultras. The 22TD's are generally available within a much shorter timeframe.
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The Dominuses require some new, large CNC machinery for production, different from and beyond what the Ultras use. The machinery has been on-site for months now. As some of you know, big machines like this require a factory tech to "turn on" the first time and do initial training. This was originally supposed to happen in late Feb / early March, which is how we got our original estimate of "mid to late April" for the first possible dealers having some (IE, we allowed a conservative 4-6 weeks after machine turn-on to get the first batches done). Since the lock downs and travel restrictions have come into play, the original turn-on and training schedule was delayed and everyone is trying to figure out a way to do it "remotely." As a result, we are probably at least a month or a little longer behind schedule on the first production Dominuses. Once we get that turned on and get the first batch or two out the door, the computer ETA's for the Dominuses will become accurate. If you have an ETA which was not before June, your ETA is unlikely to be affected very much. That is unless the coronavirus situation deteriorates and there are more local or national shutdowns that affect our ability to get material or let our employees work safely. At this time, our production rate of Ultras, etc, has not been downgraded.
The computer-estimate ETA's for the Dominuses right now will not be accurate. They are still good for the Ultras. The 22TD's are generally available within a much shorter timeframe.
Long answer:
The Dominuses require some new, large CNC machinery for production, different from and beyond what the Ultras use. The machinery has been on-site for months now. As some of you know, big machines like this require a factory tech to "turn on" the first time and do initial training. This was originally supposed to happen in late Feb / early March, which is how we got our original estimate of "mid to late April" for the first possible dealers having some (IE, we allowed a conservative 4-6 weeks after machine turn-on to get the first batches done). Since the lock downs and travel restrictions have come into play, the original turn-on and training schedule was delayed and everyone is trying to figure out a way to do it "remotely." As a result, we are probably at least a month or a little longer behind schedule on the first production Dominuses. Once we get that turned on and get the first batch or two out the door, the computer ETA's for the Dominuses will become accurate. If you have an ETA which was not before June, your ETA is unlikely to be affected very much. That is unless the coronavirus situation deteriorates and there are more local or national shutdowns that affect our ability to get material or let our employees work safely. At this time, our production rate of Ultras, etc, has not been downgraded.
Curious as to what machines. CNC machinist here. Would love to see a shop tour somewhat like NYCCNC does.
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Are either of you fellas seeing gas leakage around the locking collar area of the Dominus SR in any caliber or barrel length in particular? For example, surefire suppressors bleed gas back onto the barrel, and potentially onto my clip-on which is why this can is so appealing to me.
When the Dominus SR is mounted over the muzzle brake, how much gap or overlap exists between the threaded shoulder of the barrel muzzle threads and the rear most point of the locking collar? The Ultra SR looks to have a very slight gap for example.
Are either of you fellas seeing gas leakage around the locking collar area of the Dominus SR in any caliber or barrel length in particular? For example, surefire suppressors bleed gas back onto the barrel, and potentially onto my clip-on which is why this can is so appealing to me.
When the Dominus SR is mounted over the muzzle brake, how much gap or overlap exists between the threaded shoulder of the barrel muzzle threads and the rear most point of the locking collar? The Ultra SR looks to have a very slight gap for example.
There is no gas leakage at all. You can see how clean back of brake is in tis video.
Threaded shoulder of barrel muzzle? clarify please
Threaded shoulder of barrel muzzle? clarify please
With the current known delays getting started on Dominus production in mid May seems pretty likely. Not a promise, just our best guess as of the data we have today.
So will June be the month they roll off the line or have some been shipped already?
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Hoping to see a DOMINUS at my local dealer, 338 Ultra already there, when I get home from work mid june
The 1/2-28 brakes weren't in production when we did the life cycle testing on the suppressors. Those are thread adapters so we could use the 5/8 brakes we had on hand. We don't recommend using thread adapters if can be avoided as it adds another thread interface to the system. However for life cycle testing where everything is going to be taken to failure the thread adapters work just fine. SR brakes ship with the same peel washer we all know and love.
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Really considering this can for the Mk20. It's down to the Surefire cans, a KAC QDC PRS or this. This one is priced same as a QDC so I'm gonna have to compare numbers on those first. The TBAC Ultras and my QDC are probably my best/most favorite cans so it's gonna come down to some pretty basic numbers I imagine.
I've been waiting YEARS for TBAC to come out with an abuse type can and I figured i't be a steel version if/when they ever did it, but nope, they doubled down and made it light too. Kickass.
Only wish I could trade these SDN6's in on a pair of these bad boys!
I've been waiting YEARS for TBAC to come out with an abuse type can and I figured i't be a steel version if/when they ever did it, but nope, they doubled down and made it light too. Kickass.
Only wish I could trade these SDN6's in on a pair of these bad boys!
I will be ordering one shortly. I have over 22000 rounds through the Ultra 9 and the thing is still going strong. So I know this one will be out standing.
Just got through a grueling multi-hour fight with the ATF e-File website -- talk about torture!
Filed for 4 more suppressors based upon Maverick Talon tubes that just shipped and a group buy for cups on the F1 forums. Also added a couple of SBRs to turn my SP5K into a suppressed PCC and my Noveske N4 Infidel with 13.7" barrel into a suppressed SBR. I ordered 3 TBAC Ultra 9's from MH last Friday and the Form-3 and shipping just happened today, so my wait will begin next week when I go back into my FFL (was in there today taking delivery of my factory-new KAC SR-25 ACC) and do my F4's on the 3 Ultra 9's.
My question is: I've only done one Form-1 ever (NOV 2019), and this is also my first Form-4. I just pushed through six (6) Form-1's tonight. Will this hurt me in any way? Will my F1's take longer because of running 6 at once, or might they contribute to any delay in my forthcoming Form-4's next week? Or is this all "behind-the-curtain" BATFE Wizard of Oz shenanigans and there's no way of knowing?
Filed for 4 more suppressors based upon Maverick Talon tubes that just shipped and a group buy for cups on the F1 forums. Also added a couple of SBRs to turn my SP5K into a suppressed PCC and my Noveske N4 Infidel with 13.7" barrel into a suppressed SBR. I ordered 3 TBAC Ultra 9's from MH last Friday and the Form-3 and shipping just happened today, so my wait will begin next week when I go back into my FFL (was in there today taking delivery of my factory-new KAC SR-25 ACC) and do my F4's on the 3 Ultra 9's.
My question is: I've only done one Form-1 ever (NOV 2019), and this is also my first Form-4. I just pushed through six (6) Form-1's tonight. Will this hurt me in any way? Will my F1's take longer because of running 6 at once, or might they contribute to any delay in my forthcoming Form-4's next week? Or is this all "behind-the-curtain" BATFE Wizard of Oz shenanigans and there's no way of knowing?
At best, you get batch processed where they’d take all your Form 1’s and do them at same time. The same could happen with your Form 4’s. There’s zero chance the Form 4’s and Form 1’s would be grouped together and done. I suspect that the Form 1 lackeys and the Form 4 lackeys don’t communicate and there’s no way for one side to know if the other side has stuff from you.
At worst, they’ll all meander their way separately through the process and approvals will have no rhyme or reason.
Don’t overthink this stuff. You’re dealing with an antiquated and mismanaged (on purpose) government system.
ETA: I sent in 4 Form 4’s (3 cans and one SBR) between the beginning of Sept and the beginning of November. My Razor and the DSA OSW SBR were first and done on the same day in September. I bought a Turbo K in October and another in November. One of my Turbo K’s has been approved, but I’m OCONUS and don’t know which one.
All of the Form 4’s were done through Silencer Shop.
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Ordered Dominus Sr. And 338 SR stamp arrived to TBAC yesterday. I still have one certificate 50% left so what else should I order? Will TBAC come out anything new next year?
Think I’m gonna order two Dominus SR tomorrow. One to leave on my bolt gun and one to play with on my SR15’s/SR-25. Will update after I call.
The shoulder less thread pitch of an SR25 won’t play nice with a Dominus SR. SR25s time off the muzzle, and the Thunderbeast SR brake can’t be internally shimmed to time it off the muzzle.
I have a 338SR, SR25, and I ran into this issue.
Im hoping Thunderbeast makes a run of brakes that would work if enough SR25 owners chime in, but there probably aren’t that many that own a SR25, and less of those that choose to not use a KAC QDC.
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TBAC does custom muzzle indexing CB brakes, they might do that for the SR brake. I’d give them a call to confirm.
Yea, I show 07-08 to 07-19. Every week for the past month it's been bumped back. I have no issues with it. Just wanted an update.
Happy to see yall developed a dedicated hard use can. Got me a 6.5 Ultra 9 in jail right now, Dominus gonna be my next one I think.
Dying of old age waiting on a Thunder Beast.... Ship date gets pushed back 30 days... every 30 days.
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A few teething problems getting the Dominus line online; once they start to roll, they will roll fast. I apologize for the delays. Our production rate is up 40% since April, with a lot more to come.
any dealers that you'd recommend me look for dominus sr's?
I'm looking to suppress a 10.5" 5.56, a 16" 5.56, and a 20" 6.5 creed with the same can and it is between this and the CGS helios QD
Thanks! How's the backpressure on 5.56 and 6.5 semiautos? I'm running JP VMOS BCGs and SCS buffers in all my rifles so I can adjust the mass and spring tension to a certain extent.
It's less than an Ultra 7 but I don't have a scientific number to quote you. What I've found is that if I build an upper just like I would for use without a can, and like you that means a SCS buffer (stock weight) and either a FMOS or LMOS depending on gas system length, and an adjustable gas block (my favorite is the Seekins) the difference between the optimal setting for suppressed (typically Ultra 5 or 7 for me), is less than 3/4ths of a turn different.
Mine just went pending for SN/Form 3
CB versions have already started to ship. SR versions should start shortly.
In our invoice/status system, if it says "serial numbers are pending" it means we have the serial number already built and allocated but are waiting on something from the dealer/customer in order to file the Form 3 (usually a deposit/payment or the SOT is out of date).
In our invoice/status system, if it says "serial numbers are pending" it means we have the serial number already built and allocated but are waiting on something from the dealer/customer in order to file the Form 3 (usually a deposit/payment or the SOT is out of date).
