Re: tip of finger vs. 2nd joint
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aggiesig</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sterling Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aggiesig</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sterling Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">generally it begins with the finger placed on the trigger where it indeed is relaxed, where ever that may be. Of course, I guess they could be told to place their finger on the trigger using other terms, possibly telling them to place the finger on the trigger where it's not comfortable. Tip, pad, joint, if it does not complement the mechanics, there will be a problem. Maybe in the end, it's not about comfort, but it's a good place to start. </div></div>
generally no. I learned trigger placement from playing in band in 6th grade, you can manipulate the keys on instruments much more effectively from a "C" shaped hand position where you get a truer 90 degree engagement of the keys. The same things holds true for firearms, the person who finger fucks a 1911 by "naturally" putting their second joint into the trigger guard will never shot as well as an individual who puts their first pad on the trigger shoe at a 90 degree angle from the axis of trigger pull forming a "C" with their finger. They will apply less force to pull the trigger, and they will be able to operate it more efficiently, and everything else being the same more accurately.</div></div>
O.K., thanks for showing me how to do it. Your "hold true" statements however don't hold true. The relationship between shooter, gun, and ground is as unique to the design of the firearm, as it is to the build of the shooter, when the idea is to transfer the stability of the ground into the position. Finger position on an AR for shooter X might be quite divergent from a proper finger position on a 1911. What is not unique however is pulling the trigger in a manner that does not disturb aim, as this concept is mental not physical. This concept is "generally" described as SMOOTH. </div></div>
I think I've found your SOP it goes something like this:
distract and digress...
time to real you back into my point.
regardless if you are shooting a blunderbuss, AR, Glock, whatever.
I'm saying that you can obtain a SMOOTHER, MORE DIRECT, TRIGGER PULL by engaging the trigger with your finger at a point as far from hand as practical. Thus the first pad, when you go to the joint it removes one more hinge for your trigger engagement to move on thus removing some of your ability to pull straight back, creating more of a camming action to your trigger squeezing movement.
The trigger is mechanical and moves one direction a fixed distance, your finger is not mechanical, and to get your finger to apply force in that identical direction, without applying any force in other directions is best done with the use of all your joints. NOT IN WHATEVER POSITION IS INITIALLY COMFORTABLE WHEN YOU HOLD THE GUN(your initial point that I a trying to refute and you are trying to divorce). Because most beginners idea of comfortable comes from barefoot Bruce Wilis in Die Hard, and not from any real accuracy guru preaching Natural Point of Aim</div></div>
Once again, thanks for showing me how to do it. I think you are, however, limiting the possibilities for SMOOTH, with your absolutes regarding techniques. At any rate, how's your technique workin' out for ya. You have nothing in your profile that would suggest what you profess is gospel on the matter, that's to say, what you apply can actually get the best results. My technique for SMOOTH has helped me get an HM rating in LR, as well as a DR badge. How bout you? Also, what I teach, is indeed doctrine for Service Rifle. It comes from the USAMU, not my notions on the matter but, straight from the SDM/TTT curriculum.
