Re: Tragic Events in Palestine.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Valere,
You're a muslim apologist.
So you can try and convince us otherwise however your semantics are falling on deaf ears. Perception is reality and the entire world knows Jihad in any context means a holy war.
If you walk around the streets and your workplace saying you're "gay" 99.9% of the people under 70 are going to think you're a homosexual despite the fact that gay means having or showing a merry, lively mood. </div></div>
Perceptions is most certainly not reality. It's merely an interpretation of it. A cursory reading of Plato's Cave illustrates this.
Plenty of the uneducated and insidious view gun owners are bad people with bad tools to execute bad intentions. Some are, many are not but frequently no distinction is made by those with the wrong perception.
People who kill non-combatants as a matter of policy are terrorists. I'd be interested to see if you'd hoist the Union Jack and proclaim death to the terrorist dogs in Northern Ireland...</div></div>
That's not quite what the Plato's Allegory of the Cave explains. But I'm not going to argue the semantics of the philosophy of Plato. The point, whether you choose to recognize it or not, is that Jihad is perceived as a holy war against non-muslims. This is a fact.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">People who kill non-combatants as a matter of policy are terrorists. I'd be interested to see if you'd hoist the Union Jack and proclaim death to the terrorist dogs in Northern Ireland...</div></div>
Yes on both counts. </div></div>
Mike - firstly, the whole world does not perceive jihad as a 'hot' war simply because you think it does. Secondly, there are literally over a billion Muslims who have never committed an act of war by any standards so again, your irrational proclamations are unfounded by any empirical evidence. You may hate muslims, or Palestinians, and by me that's fine, I can't stand Jesuits, Calvinists and I particularly HATE Catholic bishops and cardinals who routinely and for decades knowingly protected child rapists but I'd be foolish to say ALL catholics are rapists and molesters.
On a completely seperate note, I find it curious we're all hot to debate the injustice or otherwise of the deaths of a comparatively few people when just south of our border there are about a dozen or so people mostly innocent people getting killed in the most horrendous of ways on a daily basis. Makes me wonder... do we care more about the loss of lives or who's dying?
BTW - you missed what I was referring to in regards to Plato's Cave. The central point is people who have never seen anything other than the shadows.
