Trigger pound pull

Let me try talking in a way that you will understand.

First, I made a shot with a rifle that is not my preferred caliber.

Second, I want to see if I can make the same shot and more with the caliber and rifle of my choice.

Third, I would like to have a trigger without it being too heavy(slow follow ups) or too light(doubling) so I can make shots accurately. :(
 
Dpms sportical in .308
Rainier ultramatch barrel 20"
Grg 308 muzzle brake
Daniel defense quadrail rifle length
Probably a Nikko targetmaster until I get a Nightforce.
And a jard trigger...that's all I'm saving for.
 
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My gift to you is to suggest you go to youtube and watch

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FtlwoNCNnFA&list=PLJUaiRIEduNXoal2_PkBZi0vDCIcEPxUn

then watch the entire series start to finish.... then spend the time reading and learning from people on this forum that have years of experience and training..... or just go to the thread listed below and try to figure out where you went wrong.


http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...277-everything-you-need-know.html#post2779434

if anyone else wants a good laugh go to the thread above and witness this conversation played out via text-to-speech
 
My gift to you is to suggest you go to youtube and watch

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FtlwoNCNnFA&list=PLJUaiRIEduNXoal2_PkBZi0vDCIcEPxUn

then watch the entire series start to finish.... then spend the time reading and learning from people on this forum that have years of experience and training..... or just go to the thread listed below and try to figure out where you went wrong.


http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...277-everything-you-need-know.html#post2779434

if anyone else wants a good laugh go to the thread above and witness this conversation played out via text-to-speech
Why the hate, keep responding, it's humorous to me, everyone has their own way of shooting in one way or another, I will post results and maybe a video on the few shots taken once I get my own rifle, and I would also love to see the reaction on benders face. Thank you all for your time and words.
 
Trigger pound pull

Never mind. In your short day here, you are the first ever on my ignore list. Congrats. I tried to help you, but you know everything already. Please go back to your videogames.

Good day.
 
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This is why I like snipershide, some really good guys having patience with a newbie and actually sorting things out.thanks for your patience and your BS, hope something good comes of it. New guy...stay in touch, always glad to see extreme shots.
 
I'm actually 18 and butt hurt, not really because of the simple fact that I made a shot, you all blow it out of proportion, yes, I don't own a rifle yet because I'm saving up for it and modifications as well to make shots at that distance. I give up on this thread because apparently, my words don't make any sense or I'm just talking ignorantly. Whatever it may be.

Doesn't your profile say you're 44?
 
Let me try talking in a way that you will understand.

First, I made a shot with a rifle that is not my preferred caliber.

Second, I want to see if I can make the same shot and more with the caliber and rifle of my choice.

Third, I would like to have a trigger without it being too heavy(slow follow ups) or too light(doubling) so I can make shots accurately. :(

Mr. Silver gave good advice in post 62. S-101 part 11 covers triggers.

You did a good job here of explaining what you're wanting to do.

Your buddy's ar30, was it 300WM or 338 Lapua? Either way, there are several things about your plan that are making guys react. Nobody is saying it can't be done, but it's kind of like saying you want to know which basketball shoes you should get so you can shoot a basket from the other side of the gym. A gas gun (semi) is going to be less accurate and harder to shoot than your buddy's bolt gun. The 308 can be shot at the distances you're talking about but it's like trying to drag race with a school bus. Look at the attached chart that compares 308 with 300WM and 338 Lapua. Just as a ballpark you can see that the 308 is falling very fast (and subsonic) at 1200, you need to lob it over 30 feet up in the air just to hit at 1200. At a mile it's going to be going about 500fps. It's cool you got to do some extreme shooting with your friend's gun, and that it got you interested in long range shooting. These guys are trying to help you get there.
 

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Tristian,

To answer your first question: furthest distance shot so far is 1500 yards, more or less, I took 3 shots with my friends ar-30 and I hit on the third, low from center mass and the first 2 shots were complete misses because the scope was not doped at that range, I started out shooting 1000+ yards a few months ago and I can say that you have more experience than I have by a few years then, the target was a cardboard box no bigger than 20 x 20(I think) and I can't read the wind that well yet but I am able hold over, being only a few months into shooting.

2.)The target that I am trying to hit would be at most a 10 x 10 or even smaller, I understand if there is a little to no chance in being that good of a shot if possible at a mile but I will do my best in learning what I can to get the closest I can to it.

3.)As far as consistency goes, I at least want to be able to put 15 out of 20 rounds on target at that range.

4.)Yes. To shoot at a mile target with accuracy, precision, and consistency is my goal, no matter how small or how big that target is.

I don't have my own weapon yet but I plan on getting a dpms sportical, .308 caliber, and then making modifications to it to shoot at that distance accurately along with having consistent groups without missing.

If you are serious about wanting to hit 10" at 1 mile the dpms with a 20" barrel is going to take you from highly unlikely to virtually impossible. And how long would you have to wait, you're talking about saving for a bunch of stuff (trigger, scope, quad rail, etc). Why not get a bolt gun in a better caliber and get shooting, put in whatever trigger you want?
 
call these guys, they will be more helpful than us at discussing confusing trigger pull weights

1-877-811-GUNS (4867)

VJJ is a TR shill, who knew!? In fairness to the OP, he is asking these questions in this section:

Sniper's Hide Stupid Marksmanship Questions

Ask your stupidest Long Range Marksmanship question here. There are no dumb questions we are happy to answer the most idiotic thing you can come up with when it comes to shooting a rifle at distance.
 
Ok, I'm going to try to get this thread back on topic. There is an old rule of thumb in the ultra long range shooting community that says you should have at least 1# of trigger pull for every 50 yards you shoot. So, at 100 yards, a 2# pull is what you want. Out at 1000, that puts you at a 20# pull. Guys will tell you that that is too heavy, but this guideline greatly helps to reduce the problems caused by the Coriolis and Borealis effects, which will be a huge factor on your 1-mile shots. At those distances, you will also need to pay close attention to the Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon. It can be somewhat of a pain to adjust/replace your trigger or switch rifles for shots at different distances, but when you are laying down at 845 yards and take the shot with a 16.9# trigger, you'll know it was worth it the time spent.

Good luck
 
Had a guy invite me over to shoot one time. Said he had targets setup at 800 but we could easily get to 1500. Said 800 was challenging but not too hard. Got there, saw the mess, pulled out the LRF and kindly let him know his 800 yard target was actually 275..

Im guessing same thing goes here. 1500? congrats on your 350yard shot UA. No offense but people new to the game severely over estimate range.. SEVERELY!!!! Just saying
 
Had a guy invite me over to shoot one time. Said he had targets setup at 800 but we could easily get to 1500. Said 800 was challenging but not too hard. Got there, saw the mess, pulled out the LRF and kindly let him know his 800 yard target was actually 275..

Im guessing same thing goes here. 1500? congrats on your 350yard shot UA. No offense but people new to the game severely over estimate range.. SEVERELY!!!! Just saying

Hopefully you guys were using a 4.75# trigger pull instead of the 16-pounder that would've been required for a true 800-yard shot! That would really mess things up!
 
Let me try talking in a way that you will understand.

First, I made a shot with a rifle that is not my preferred caliber.

Second, I want to see if I can make the same shot and more with the caliber and rifle of my choice.

Third, I would like to have a trigger without it being too heavy(slow follow ups) or too light(doubling) so I can make shots accurately. :(

What is the elevation where this shot took place and what elevation will you normally be shooting?
 
All I know is that I was on a hill on his land, the Bushnell laser range finder said that the box was around 1500 yards because I ranged a tree at that same distance, as for the elevation I normally shoot at, it varies with different locations.
 
Few thousand feet with a few hills. Mostly flat terrain with a light breeze and trees around the entire area, the box was positioned near a tree for both range estimation and the range finder to prove the estimate, all I know is I was inclined and aiming downward at least by a 20-30° angle(from the top of the box) Now that I thought about the shot.
 
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Few thousand feet with a few hills. Mostly flat terrain with a light breeze and trees around the entire area, the box was positioned near a tree for both range estimation and the range finder to prove the estimate, all I know is I was inclined and aiming downward at least by a 20-30° angle(from the top of the box) Now that I thought about the shot.

This will be EPIC.....1k + on range, high angle shooting, .308 at a unknown DA......I need to go back to sleep
 
Took 3 shots, made 1, probably luck probably not, I barely know how to read wind, my friend let me fire his ar-30(.338) on his land to see if I could hit the target, I didn't ask any questions, I just looked through the scope and pulled the trigger, I admit that I don't know much about ballistics because I'm going off of stuff from the top of my head that I can remember at the time, there was a light breeze from where I was shooting, I do not know how the wind was at the target and I didn't get any ffs, just a day that I pulled the trigger, once I get my own rifle, I will post results on my long distance shots for proof.
 
Ok let me get this straight. You're a couple months into shooting. You were borrowing a rifle. Said rifle had no DOPE for 1500yds. You don't know how to compensate for wind. It took you only 3 shots to hit a no bigger than 20x20 box at 1500 yds. Is this correct or did I leave anything out.
 
Sorry if I sounded like an idiot, I'm just on these forums to learn more about shooting at long distances, I have seen the sniper 101 series and the shots people make at a mile with a .308, although I'm stubborn and can make ignorant choices at times, I still listen to everyone's advice and opinions, even the negative ones that don't help the matter, thank you all for your advice and opinions and you all are not wasting your breath.