Rifle Scopes Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

[nforrest85]

Ok so due to being a bit short on funds I am looking for a decent scope to use for a while. Its going on a Rem700 ADL in 7mm Rem Mag. I;d like something along the lines of 4-16x50 with a mildot or BDC type reticle. Looking to spend 300 or less. I found a Leupold with everything I want, but can't swing 700buxs right now.
Anyone have any experience with Tru-Glo scopes? I am familiar with the fiber optic handgun and bow sites, but haven't handled one of the scopes.
I had pretty much decided on a Burris Fullfield II(4.5-14x42)with the BDC reticle but thought I'd ask around a bit.
A friend of mine swears by BSA for a cheap scope if short on funds, but I can spend alittle more and want the most for what I got to spend.

 

[our gang]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

I have a TruGlow 6-24x50 and it is a DECENT scope up to about 16X
My experience with Burris goes back 20+ years and they used to make a fine scope. I just sold two new TAC 30s I bought because of "gray out" over 100 yards.
BSA is crap, decent 22RF scope, that's it.
Go on Ebay and look for a used Leupold VX II or Bushnell 4200.
Cut your power back to 3-9,( I assume this is a hunting rifle) and you can probably find a nice one in your budget. You'll be able to sell it and not lose a dime when you are in a position to upgrade.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leupold-Scope-3-9-x4...4#ht_500wt_1182

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leupold-VX-II-3-9-x-...4#ht_500wt_1182

 

[nforrest85]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

So are the newer burris fullfields not worth the money? I have been researching and some people seem to really like the Nikons for the money and Millet seems to get some recognition. I don't need/want the target/tactical turrents.

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

You can pick up the nikon 6-18 with MD & SF over at midway for $300 NIKON I put one on my .22 and like it. LT warranty SF and the glass looks good.

 

[our gang]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

I think the Fullfields suck based on my two new ones. The other two I have (20 years old) are fine scopes, of course they were made in the USA.
I'll stick with IMO/IME you get a better scope for the same money in a fixed than a variable. Too many people with variables set them on the highest power and miss the shot at 75 yards. The few I have get set at the lowest power and generally stay there while hunting. As Finn said:"big game that is too far away to shoot with a 3X scope is too far away to shoot at." We are technology crazy and have forgotten how to hunt. Old Jack O'Connor killed almost everything with a 2.5x Lyman Alaskan with a 5 minute dot. While sniping has elements of hunting, real hunting has more to do with getting close than making a 500 yard shot. I really don't care if some raghead gets gutshot but a deer, antelope or elk deserves better. IMO a 6-18 makes a nice Varmint scope (I just bought a Nikon Coyote 6-18 for "yotes") but it has no place in big game hunting at ethical ranges.
This year I'll get my speed goat with my 1910 1899 Savage in 303 Savage carrying a 2.5X Lyman Alaskan in Stith no drill mounts.
It will put three of the Barnes TSX 30-30 designed "bucket mouth" hollow points in 1.5" @100. Of course I'll have hide, crawl, wait and ambush but one will come my way and it will be far more rewarding than popping one at 350 with my 270. But I am rambling, get a quality fixed power and you'll get a better scope for the same bucks.
Good hunting!

 

[HOGGHEAD]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

IMO the best $300 scope out there is the Sightron SII---4X16 model. I bought one for a CZ 527 in 204 for short range ground hog hunting(out to 350 yards). The scope works great for its purpose. Good price, good glass. Tom.

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

For that money....Nikon Buckmaster scope in 4-14 Mildot would be a good choice too.

 

[KeithR41]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

+1 on the fixed power for hunting. If you need to get a bigger look, use bino's. I have a 4 power Leupold on my 30-06 and haven't ever shot more than once at an animal.

 

[our gang]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

YEAH! RIGHT ON! Nice to see a hunter on the site!
Someday when you hit the lottery, get a 4X Schmidt...you'll wet yourself!

 

[nforrest85]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

thanks guys. however I think I will be breaking down and spending the extra $$ to buy the Leupold I wanted. I avoided them because I didn't want to feed a company that I feel has sort of been "riding" the name. There are other quality scopes out there for less money, but I am looking for something to hold its value and is proven. Leupold scopes are proven and come with good warranties, and most of the high end optics use the target/tactical knobs. Most that need th high end optics I'm sure know how to properly use them, however I am an exeception and Leupold offers what I want.
As a friend told me, "trade guns all ya want, if its the exact scope you want you can keep it and use it on any of them."

 

[our gang]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

Smart choice. The "experts" here with their "bargain scopes just as good as Leupold" would know how to do a comparative optics test if it was in their lap. Nobody can beat Leupold's quality, reputation and warranty for the price. Nor are their scopes made by slave labor in God knows where.

 

[AK10mm]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

I own and have always owned several Leupolds,their customer svc is great,and their product is good.I was really disappointed when the came out with the BS Rifleman and Green ring crap.If you are set on a loopy,get a VXIII or MKIV,be aware that the SF models still have a problem with "Lash",meaning you have to turn it all the way and reset it,the LR/T models also still use a wire recticle.I don't know about the MKIV as I don't own one.I'll give a +1 on the Sightron.

BTW,I think the Cheaper Loopys ARE in fact made by slave labor.

 

[JWGILLAM]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

i have a tru-glo 6-24x50 and a 44 because thats all i could afford when I bought them. they're not great scopes but not terrible. the adjustments are pretty spot on. but after about 16 the scope does get a shitty halo. A man once let me shoot his custom m1a with a s&b on it. HOLY SHIT that was the first time I had ever looked through a real piece of glass. and there is no substitute, I'm a novice but there is a big difference. I have looked through many of my buddys nikon's they're very clear +1 on the $300 midway special. might go that way next time I have some spare $ and if it's not enough for the falcon menace 5-25

 

[Guest]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40 - 299.99 (normally 399.99)

Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x40 - 219

You dont need anything over 10x for even long range shooting (IMO), so you darn sure dont need it for bambi.

Both of the above were from Cabelas.com, by the way.

 

[AK10mm]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

Mueller is one of the newer brands of riflescopes that represent a great deal of value for the money. I have compared this scope to leupolds and Nikons that cost three times as much as it holds it own.

Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble
Smart choice. The "experts" here with their "bargain scopes just as good as Leupold" would know how to do a comparative optics test if it was in their lap. Nobody can beat Leupold's quality, reputation and warranty for the price. Nor are their scopes made by slave labor in God knows where.(end quote)

I'd be willing to bet my last dollar that the Mueller in Question was made by "Slave Labor in God Knows Where",so much for loyalty to the Leupold Brand.

 

[PronghornStalker]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

Burris are fine scopes for the $$, Nikon are right up there and Bushnell have recovered some of my earlier faith that they lost when Bausch and Lomb bought them up back mid 80's or so. The chess game in optics is actually hard to keep up and remember who owns who. With Tasco being bought up by Bushnell it appears Bushies quality improved.

Some interesting economy optics have hit the market and by checking out Natchez and SWFA I have checked a few out. VORTEX is definitely a good scope with clear and crisp image and excellent customer support as I bought an advertised blem that had 1/8 clic labeled turret scale and was a 1/4 adjustment. Called and new replacement turrets in my hands 3 days later at no cost. Now price was 70% reduced and with new turrets put on easily it was the $200 version. This was with a 6x24x50mm Vortex Crossfire. Vortex is definetely a scope to look at with a no question return policy.

Brunton is way under priced but good quality and for those with TC Encore and G2 you can afford to scope all your barrels without a new Mortgage. Natchez presently has many priced from $100 to $29.00 depending on the power ranges. Been testing out the Echo by Brunton in 6x24x50mm ($89.00 Natchez SS) and for the price I am impressed. Now these are not S&B, Loopy's, Burris scopes and yes I have many of both Burris and Leupolds (older 90s production) and have compared the quality of image and they are plenty clear. Economy scopes may not be built for punishment but only time will tell. And with proper care as all optics require should give years of service.

I remember the praise Redfield got and just hated the one I had. Poor service on a scope defect and glad they are out of business. That Redfield was one of the high end Widefields Low Profile in 2-7x and is a great hammer when I can't find one.

 

[Big Bo]

Re: Tru-Glo? Burris? scopes

Bushnell 5-15x40 Legend with Mil-Dots. Can be found for under $200. The Nikon is a good choice too.

 

[nforrest85]

Re: B&C Reticle? rings?

Just got my Leupold V-L 4.5-14x56 with Boone& Crockett reticle, scope in yesterday. Has to be the nicest scope I have ever owned.
Anyone have any experience with the B&C reticle? I haven't mounted it yet, gotta find a set of decent rings. will regular aluminum weaver style rings/bases work? are badgers and the like made of stainless or pretty much all aluminum?
I had planned to use the set of aluminum ones I had, but the scope is pretty heavy and I figure if I paid that for a scope, a few more $ is worth it to get the most from it.

 

[carbinero]

Question based on original price range

Nice scope! My budget won't allow me to even look at it...

My first scope is a Pentax Pioneer, which looks just like a friend's Burris Fullfield. It is well worth the $90 I paid. Next scope is for my son's rig, and I'm considering a Weaver Classic-V. The glass on the Pentax is fine for my needs/budget, but I don't like turning the whole eyepiece to adjust power. Is the Weaver Classic-V series comparable quality to the FF?

 

[rommel500]

Re: Question based on original price range

The Vortex Crossfire scopes are a great scope for the money. Their warranty is amazing as well. I got a 6x24x50 from Liberty Optics for ~ $200. I don't think you can get a better scope in that price range.