Tube gun actions - experiences with Borden and Defiance?

[hkfan45]

I currently run an Eliseo w/ a Pierce action. I love the stock, but the action has always experienced binding in the rearmost position if the bolt is not pushed perfectly straight. I have been told by them that this is "normal" as a result of close tolerances. However, I find it aggravating.

Has anyone had any experience with Borden or Mutant tube gun actions? Do they bind?

I planned on getting a new tube gun, but my experience with the action has me questioning my next move.

Thanks.

 

[high right]

I just got my Eliseo yesterday, so, Not knowing about the binding. I did mine in my favorite super
tactical round, 6BR. Eliseo is the only game I know that does a bulletproof mag fed 6br.
I had a Remington action Jon trued up and did his magic on. I am going to get rings tonight.
I am a bit surprised on the heft of the thing. I am really looking forward to getting it up and running.

 

[BradfromND]

I have a Mutant and could not be happier. There is no binding what so ever. The tang is built up extremely thick. Mine also turned into a switch barrel rifle because of the huge recoil ring built in. You will not be disappointed if you go that route. I have no experience on the other one, but I looked into them all and decided on Defiance because of the options and the beefiness of the action.

 

[hkfan45]

I have a Mutant and could not be happier. There is no binding what so ever. The tang is built up extremely thick. Mine also turned into a switch barrel rifle because of the huge recoil ring built in. You will not be disappointed if you go that route. I have no experience on the other one, but I looked into them all and decided on Defiance because of the options and the beefiness of the action.

Who did the chambering and building of your Defiance?

 

[BradfromND]

Russell at Scout Supply Company hung both of the barrels.

 

[cjmill87]

Having owned and sold off every type of tube gun action (a bit of ADD), the binding is common in both the Pierce and Borden due to tighter tolerances. I did not get any trigger time behind the Defiance so I defer to Brad on that, although it is one heck of a nice action. For my money and shooting discipline, I picked and am sticking with a Remington 700 that has been worked over. It is loose enough to run slick in rapid fire manipulation but still locks up tight enough that I do not worry about any potential loss of accuracy.

 

[scotharr]

The mutant is a great action, purchased one six months ago. That would be my choice.