Tulsi

I suspect that a number of Democrats have been left behind by their full lurch to the left. Will be interesting to see how many others leave.

I am old enough to remember when some Democrats (especially Southern Democrats) were downright right wing.
I’m old enough to remember when a bunch of those southern democrats read the writing on the wall and went repub. wasn’t that long ago.
 
All in all, if we had to have a Democrat President, I'd rather it have been Tulsi than Mr. Potato Head. In a world of lesser evils Tulsi is less bad than Biden. We don't get good choices anymore - we get one piece of shit or an alternative piece of shit. And vote for the lesser of two evils which is still evil and a piece of shit. Everyone seems to have forgotten that the Democrats were convicted of fixing their 2016 Primaries and pushing aside the primary voters choice to appoint Hillary as the candidate. But that's not illegal - nothing in The Constitution pertains to the extant political parties and if they want to ignore the electorate and appoint their candidate behind closed doors then that is their decision. No laws broken even though Sanders won the Democratic Primary and they tossed that and put up Hillary as the Candidate.

What a hoot.

And then millions of Democrats voted third party or even voted for Trump because they really wanted/elected Sanders in the 2016 Democrat Primary but that was "set aside" to force Hillary as it was "her turn" to be president. And Trump won.

We don't get a choice between good and bad. We get a choice of shit or fuck and neither is by, for, or of The People. No one remembers that the Dems cheated/rigged their 2016 Primaries and threw Sanders to the wolves to force Hillary as the Dem Candidate and Hillary got beat. Gotta wonder what would have happened if Sanders had been run against Trump. I do and always will. Not thrilled with Sanders but he was better than Hillary and has a pro 2A stance.

VooDoo
 
Fuck this bitch!! These stupid fucken republicans will lick her up like Monica on Bills cock. If it took her this long to realize just how bad the Democratic party is she is either A the dumbest cunt in the party or B the dumbest cunt in the party either way she can go fuck herself along with the rest of the RINOS!
 
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Tulsi is trying to be an actual liberal. Sort of like Maher. They just haven't quite figured out a few things about human history/tendencies.

You can't be free unless you can express and defend yourself. 2 cornerstones of being free to your own person. They are both intelligent. So I am certain they can find the many historical examples.

Maybe now they can now reflect on the recent passing of indigenous persons day. Perhaps dig-deep-seeded empathy for those indigenous persons who fell on the receiving end of an axe by other indigenous persons at the behest of human sacrifice?

Many probably raped before getting the axe, and all kinds of torture and crazy mutilation shit. I ain't judging just saying those who got the axe probably didn't want it to happen and didn't deserve it, I'd say.

Free indeed. But what if? Lots of those, but doesn't change the underlying principle.

This is why both fall short of being liberals. Still beholden to the idea that they know better, and would eagerly force their view upon those who dont agree given the power to do so.

But they do try.
 
Tulsi is less bad than Biden
No, she isn't. Biden seems worse because he's an invalid puppet being used by the real brains to destroy everything.

She would do it herself because she's not so braindead as to be paraded around like a marionette.

Worse still because she shows a little average looking, non cankle skin, shoots the same AR-15 she's already on record saying you shouldn't have, y'all think she's actually a good choice... for anything 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
I think it is entirely possible to go to the WEF young leaders thingy and think "what a bunch of narcissistic assholes". If they invited me, I would definitely go just to find out what those evil fucks are currently scheming and just nod my head and say "Ja vol herr Schwab". Of course to do that, you would have to have some solidly grounded principles, which is where most these losers fall way short. Not saying Tulsi is that person, but I wouldn't rule it out either.
 
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Saw her on Joe Rogan's clip:
I didn't "buy' her explanation on all the money we are pumping into the Ukraine. "Proxy War" to fuck with Russia was not enough to me to justify it.
She'll leave the political spot light and work lobbying Gov't contractors to soak more money out of the US.
Don't trust her at all!
 
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Can't even get my head around how someone in the military comes out anti-gun.

Because something like over 75% of the people in the armed forces never touch a gun after initial qualification.

I didn't, and I was in a combat role in the Navy. But most of the Navy's combat roles don't involve fighting with small arms.
 
You have Establishment politicians and you have mainstream politicians who didnt quite fall in line and obey their masters so they are left to do their own thing. this is her surviving. expect more changes as she distances herself from the neccesary Establishment rhetoric.

Im cautiously optimistic.
 
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No, she isn't. Biden seems worse because he's an invalid puppet being used by the real brains to destroy everything.

She would do it herself because she's not so braindead as to be paraded around like a marionette.

Worse still because she shows a little average looking, non cankle skin, shoots the same AR-15 she's already on record saying you shouldn't have, y'all think she's actually a good choice... for anything 🤷🏼‍♂️
My only real point is that she's better than Biden - she still sucks and I don't want her having anything to do with The Representation of We the People. We (US - the Voters) do not get choices between a "good" Candidate and a "bad" candidate - we get a choice of dog shit or horse shit. Pick either one it's still shit.

I'm not impressed with any of the current politicians with very few exceptions. I'd love to see her run as an Independent. I'd love to see Trump run again as an Independent. The destruction of The Republic lies squarely on the shoulders of the Two Party System and until we break that hold we are doomed. We get two choices....both of them work for the same Boss.

VooDoo
 
My only real point is that she's better than Biden - she still sucks and I don't want her having anything to do with The Representation of We the People. We (US - the Voters) do not get choices between a "good" Candidate and a "bad" candidate - we get a choice of dog shit or horse shit. Pick either one it's still shit.

I'm not impressed with any of the current politicians with very few exceptions. I'd love to see her run as an Independent. I'd love to see Trump run again as an Independent. The destruction of The Republic lies squarely on the shoulders of the Two Party System and until we break that hold we are doomed. We get two choices....both of them work for the same Boss.

VooDoo
"The destruction of The Republic lies squarely on the shoulders of the Two Party System" - This I think is an "easy" culprit. The culprit is that we have people in political offices that are not held responsbile by The People. It comes down to the person whether or not they can be an independent thinker and not go along to get along. We've put too much power in the power brokers for each party. They now no longer serve the people, but the money.

I personally don't believe that will be different if the have (R), (D), (I), (C), (L) or what have you. It's the MORALS and ETHICS of people that should be questioned, not what "party" is.

Now, should we have a destruction of both parties as we know it, perhaps. NEITHER are REPRESENTING the MAJORITY of their constituents. And that...THAT is the problem.
 
Disagree but it is irrelevant - there is no way to hold the guilty parties accountable. We get a choice of a shithead asshole fuckhead Republican or a shithead ass hole fuckhead Democrat who *BOTH* work for the same Global Oligarchy/Cabal - both of our choices answer to Big Global Money are have been purchased and are controlled.

There is no Way to hold them accountable. Fire them and elect another person? No matter as the "other guy" works for the same Boss and talks out of the other side of his mouth. How do you hold them accountable? Do we have term limits? Can we hold them in breach of oath and remove them? There is no way to "hold them accountable". Our only Hope is to elect someone who is *not* owned and operated by the Global Oligarchy and that means a 3rd, 4th, 5th party and people (voters) ceasing to vote along Party lines and start voting for individuals. Which will not happen because we have been neatly divided into two mutually exclusive Political parties and we keep insisting that "the other guys" are the bad egg. The Republic is doomed until we *STOP* doing the same fucking stupid thing (voting for "our guy") and start voting for people who are not owned and operated by the Global Oligarchy.

"If one always does what one has always done then one will get what one has always gotten"....We need to stop electing Democrat or Republican "owned" and operated fuckheads. Stop doing what we have been doing and do something else. Because clearly what we are doing is absurd and has driven The Republic to failure. As predicted by the Founding Fathers. Loyalty to Party has taken precedence to loyalty to The Republic. And it's not by coincidence - it is by design.

VooDoo
 
Choosing the lesser of two evils is an illusion when the establishment controls who the masses see as good and evil. the establishment candidate is always good and the challenger is always bad.

once you recognize there is an establishment and see who the players are its clear.
 
Choosing the lesser of two evils is an illusion when the establishment controls who the masses see as good and evil. the establishment candidate is always good and the challenger is always bad.

once you recognize there is an establishment and see who the players are its clear.
But would you bump uglies?
 
I’m more pointing to the trend than her in particular. Lots of it this election cycle. Easy to pretend you’re at odds with your party and fool people when your president is a drooling idiot. Then bring your thinking and actions to other parties.

She also reminds me of Kristen Gillibrand. Pro-gun Democrat as a congresswoman and over night, anti-gun Senator. Another whore who went which way the wind and the money was blowing.
 
Until you get enough defectors to form a 3rd party every politician needs to hitch their cart to one of the big 2 in order to get anywhere. there's way too much party loyalty among constituants. Libtards vote blue no matter who and Republicans vote Red to avoid blue.

Trump had to run Republican to get anywhere, not because he wanted to.
 
Disagree but it is irrelevant - there is no way to hold the guilty parties accountable. We get a choice of a shithead asshole fuckhead Republican or a shithead ass hole fuckhead Democrat who *BOTH* work for the same Global Oligarchy/Cabal - both of our choices answer to Big Global Money are have been purchased and are controlled.

There is no Way to hold them accountable. Fire them and elect another person? No matter as the "other guy" works for the same Boss and talks out of the other side of his mouth. How do you hold them accountable? Do we have term limits? Can we hold them in breach of oath and remove them? There is no way to "hold them accountable". Our only Hope is to elect someone who is *not* owned and operated by the Global Oligarchy and that means a 3rd, 4th, 5th party and people (voters) ceasing to vote along Party lines and start voting for individuals. Which will not happen because we have been neatly divided into two mutually exclusive Political parties and we keep insisting that "the other guys" are the bad egg. The Republic is doomed until we *STOP* doing the same fucking stupid thing (voting for "our guy") and start voting for people who are not owned and operated by the Global Oligarchy.

"If one always does what one has always done then one will get what one has always gotten"....We need to stop electing Democrat or Republican "owned" and operated fuckheads. Stop doing what we have been doing and do something else. Because clearly what we are doing is absurd and has driven The Republic to failure. As predicted by the Founding Fathers. Loyalty to Party has taken precedence to loyalty to The Republic. And it's not by coincidence - it is by design.

VooDoo
I'm not disagreeing with your point they are "owned" but it's not being R or D that people are owned, IMO. Think Joe Lieberman wasn't owned? He changed to be (I) and I guarantee you he was owned. It's the person who chooses to be owned. The problem is that THEY are the ones that run and get elected. And We The People keep the insanity going. No doubt I agree with you here.

I also won't disagree the leadership of each party is the root of the problem as it takes them to get elected - however, Trump has changed that ever so slightly.

That said, I don't see how, so long as big money lobby is able to toss their weight around we can break the cycle. It matters not of the party, but of the individual behind that (R/D/L/MNOPQRSTUV). If more people would buck the system and make the choice not to play their game we'd be in a better position. No doubt, I also agree we've continually done the same damn thing over and over and as soon as there was a glitter of hope we'd break the cycle, they STOLE the election.
 
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My only real point is that she's better than Biden - she still sucks and I don't want her having anything to do with The Representation of We the People. We (US - the Voters) do not get choices between a "good" Candidate and a "bad" candidate - we get a choice of dog shit or horse shit. Pick either one it's still shit.

I'm not impressed with any of the current politicians with very few exceptions. I'd love to see her run as an Independent. I'd love to see Trump run again as an Independent. The destruction of The Republic lies squarely on the shoulders of the Two Party System and until we break that hold we are doomed. We get two choices....both of them work for the same Boss.

VooDoo
Saying the same thing, repeatedly, isn't making a point... it's arguing.

How is it you believe her to be "better" than Biden and what does that mean to you?

My argument, a counter argument actually, was that she is actually WORSE than Biden.

Biden is a braindead idiot and isn't DOING anything but saying what he's told to say.

She may be more dangerous in that she may be an active and willing participant in the same destruction Potatus is halfwittingly a part of
 
Saying the same thing, repeatedly, isn't making a point... it's arguing.

How is it you believe her to be "better" than Biden and what does that mean to you?

My argument, a counter argument actually, was that she is actually WORSE than Biden.

Biden is a braindead idiot and isn't DOING anything but saying what he's told to say.

She may be more dangerous in that she may be an active and willing participant in the same destruction Potatus is halfwittingly a part of

So do you seriously think she is worse than Bidens handlers which are who? the Democrat establishment that Tulsi just split from?

Do you really think she would just go along with and sign every single bill and pice of legislation put before her?

do you really think she would push through every single executive order that Bidens handlers and Democrats want?

do you really think she would co-sign on going after political rivals?

how could she be worse exactly?
 
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So do you seriously think she is worse than Bidens handlers which are who? Let's pretend it's Obama, Soros, Etc, I said she's worse than Biden not Bidens handlers the Democrat establishment that Tulsi just split from if it's an actual split, and not a political stunt, that's open for interpretation

Do you really think she would just go along with and sign every single bill and pice of legislation put before her? no, try reading what I'm saying. I think she'll think the evil shit up on her own, that's what I mean by 'be a willing participant'

do you really think she would push through every single executive order that Bidens handlers and Democrats want? see above, same answer

how could she be worse exactly? If you still don't see why I think so after reading my answers to your previous questions, you either don't understand understand and I'm done trying to explain it or you're going with the same "I'll just repeat myself and pretend that's making a point not arguing" method of discussion
Man, you're really going for the bullshit aren't you? Questions answered above.
 
OK. You win. I'm dumb as a sock so that was predictable. Thanks for the enlightenment.

VooDoo
I think you'll find this interesting:


I think we actually both somewhat agree here. I agree the party has become royally messed up; but I think this gets right to the point.
 
Man, you're really going for the bullshit aren't you? Questions answered above.
Sorry man but just I dont see how she could and would be worse unless you think she is somehow capable of something that Bidens handlers didnt think of because Biden and his handlers are one in the same. Biden does 100% of what they want him.

Not saying she's a "good" option and even if she only did half of what Biden is it would still be bad for us but Biden is pretty much worse case scenario.

He's a puppet, a shill, a fall guy. he has no political future and he doesnt know it. Dems can use him and then throw him away because HE alone will go down in History as the worst president ever and they get away free.
 
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Sorry man but just I dont see how she could and would be worse unless you think she is somehow capable of something that Bidens handlers didnt think of because Biden and his handlers are one in the same. Biden does 100% of what they want him.

Not saying she's a "good" option and even if she only did half of what Biden is it would still be bad for us but Biden is pretty much worse case scenario.

He's a puppet, a shill, a fall guy. he has no political future and he doesnt know it. Dems can use him and then throw him away because HE alone will go down in History as the worst president ever and they get away free.
This applies equally to Tulsi, and sums up how she is more dangerous than Xiden.


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Sorry man but just I dont see how she could and would be worse unless you think she is somehow capable of something that Bidens handlers didnt think of because Biden and his handlers are one in the same. Biden does 100% of what they want him.

Not saying she's a "good" option and even if she only did half of what Biden is it would still be bad for us but Biden is pretty much worse case scenario.

He's a puppet, a shill, a fall guy. he has no political future and he doesnt know it. Dems can use him and then throw him away because HE alone will go down in History as the worst president ever and they get away free.
What's worse? An unwitting participant in the downfall of America, even when orchestrated by a master conductor? Or a willing participant who perpetuates the downfall on their own accord, perhaps at a less masterful level?

Keep in mind she's one of the WEFs little lebowski urban acheivers
 
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What's worse? An unwitting participant in the downfall of America, even when orchestrated by a master conductor? Or a willing participant who perpetuates the downfall on their own accord, perhaps at a less masterful level?

Keep in mind she's one of the WEFs little lebowski urban acheivers
not even sure what that means.

were comparing a hypothetical to an actual.
The same people that persecuted Trump for Russian collusion are the same ones that are starting WW3 with Russia are the same ones that Released covid are the same ones who caused inflation are the same ones who stole an election and covered it up are the same ones who are using the Justice department as a political hit squad are the same ones calling republican voters domestic terrorists are the same ones that you name it.

and what has little lefty Tulsi done? she's a Nazi defector yeah she still was and may have some Nazi tendancies she ain the head of fucking Nazi party or Hitler.

she aint perfect but I'll take here over 98% of the rest of the Democrat party and even some spineless cuck Republicans.
 
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