Ukraine war Bullshit.

#353
the thing i hear kicked around is what will trump expect to accomplish,what terms he will push for. fact is Putin will stay at it until he gets what he wants. he is the one and only one in control. he has no need to back off of anything he wants. europe is n empty shell and we aren't (i hope) going toe to toe with Russia which would go nuc as an only option. US mil is not fit to fight russia. such would give Iran,NK,china a chance to hit us as well.
we are kinda fucked and need to get out of Europe and deal with Venezuela,Mexico,Canada,the canal and our embedded invaders. our mil has many things needed to do in this country & western hemisphere.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
I'd say actually the NWO plan to "replace" the population of the Ukraine with various scum actually might not be something the Russians would object to all that much.
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and yet nobody is complaining about the genocide of white christians under zelensky. how odd!
one might think this was his intention all along. why else fight a war you can never win?
 
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risky,but if somebody snuck Z a nuc Putin would clean Ukraine out. of course,prob retaliate against whoever sent it and then= the end. moving all the trash into Ukraine would sure complicate the European picture. don't think Orban or any other eastern head of state would like it.
 
#357
Look at EU weasels squirming when they are put in their place. First Austria will have elections as there is no way to form gov then Germany and my bet is both times right will win or they will steal elections and then gloves will either come off and spark will ignite fire that will clean Europe or it wont and Europe will go down the drain into third world shithole completely irrelevant for the globe.
 
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mosin46 said:
risky,but if somebody snuck Z a nuc Putin would clean Ukraine out.
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How??

Putin has been trying to "clean Ukraine out" for years, with nothing to show for it but some pounded mud. He's gone through Buryats with Mosin Nagants, Convicts with pointy sticks, and contracted Norks.

Neo-Soviet estimates were that the aid to Ukraine would stop immediately, and Trump would surrender on the FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.

Dragging this out for even the period of mid-JAN to mid-FEB, beyond what they had planned for, is placing great strains on the Kremlin. If we stretch this thing into the summer of 2025, you'll probably see little Rooskie kids with bows and arrows and slingshots charging Free World fighting positions.

Russia is weak, and broken. They are not an entity worthy of a seat at the negotiating table, and POTUS should "Scaramucci" his SECDEF and be talking with Ukraine and NATO- about how much of Russia and where they should lose, and what the reparations plan looks like.
 
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kalashnikev said:
How??

Putin has been trying to "clean Ukraine out" for years, with nothing to show for it but some pounded mud. He's gone through Buryats with Mosin Nagants, Convicts with pointy sticks, and contracted Norks.

Neo-Soviet estimates were that the aid to Ukraine would stop immediately, and Trump would surrender on the FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.

Dragging this out for even the period of mid-JAN to mid-FEB, beyond what they had planned for, is placing great strains on the Kremlin. If we stretch this thing into the summer of 2025, you'll probably see little Rooskie kids with bows and arrows and slingshots charging Free World fighting positions.

Russia is weak, and broken. They are not an entity worthy of a seat at the negotiating table, and POTUS should "Scaramucci" his SECDEF and be talking with Ukraine and NATO- about how much of Russia and where they should lose, and what the reparations plan looks like.
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How far do you have to have your head up your ass to come up with this gibberish?
 
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sharac said:
Look at EU weasels squirming when they are put in their place. First Austria will have elections as there is no way to form gov then Germany and my bet is both times right will win or they will steal elections and then gloves will either come off and spark will ignite fire that will clean Europe or it wont and Europe will go down the drain into third world shithole completely irrelevant for the globe.
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Only the AfD can save Germany.
 
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kalashnikev said:
How??

Putin has been trying to "clean Ukraine out" for years, with nothing to show for it but some pounded mud. He's gone through Buryats with Mosin Nagants, Convicts with pointy sticks, and contracted Norks.

Neo-Soviet estimates were that the aid to Ukraine would stop immediately, and Trump would surrender on the FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.

Dragging this out for even the period of mid-JAN to mid-FEB, beyond what they had planned for, is placing great strains on the Kremlin. If we stretch this thing into the summer of 2025, you'll probably see little Rooskie kids with bows and arrows and slingshots charging Free World fighting positions.

Russia is weak, and broken. They are not an entity worthy of a seat at the negotiating table, and POTUS should "Scaramucci" his SECDEF and be talking with Ukraine and NATO- about how much of Russia and where they should lose, and what the reparations plan looks like.
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Dude dial the propaganda back to at least believable levels.
When you are trying to spread disinformation/influence/propaganda or whatever, at least make it vaguely believable.

Everybody even the most pro western idiots know that the Ukraine is a failed rump state completely dependent on their NWO masters and the CIA/USA pulling the strings and corrupt money from the USA basically keeping their government going.

Trump has already made contact with the Russians and the Ukranians and said He is going to work out a deal.
The new administration has already signaled their understanding of why the war happened and what needs to be offered to the Russians to end the war.
The Ukrainians are going to do whatever they are told to and their puppet dictator will do as he is ordered.

In the end the war is going to end with Russia keeping a fair amount of territory, no NATO in the Ukraine and the rest of the Ukraine being owned by Blackrock and whatever is left of the Ukrainians being mining serfs for generations to Blackrock and then having their country flooded with 3rd or Arab world "migrants" just like the rest of Europe to "replace the lost population".

Don't take my word for it, just go read what the great EU is talking about now and their plans and read up how much that puppet dictator sold of "his" country to Blackrock.
 
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kalashnikev said:
How sad are your Kremlin handlers, that even today THE RIGHTEOUS SLAY CONTINUES?
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Your funding got cutoff and you still don't get it

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232593 said:
Not nearly as sad as your CHICOM handlers Karl
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???

You are doing your best to memorize and repeat Kremlin messaging... but I thought you were also the guy who inserted the absurd non-sequitur about the CCP not-genociding Uighurs a few pages back?

I'm all Free-World, and fully committed to the SLAY... was that some other Commie-owned&operated member other than you?
 
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kalashnikev said:
???

You are doing your best to memorize and repeat Kremlin messaging... but I thought you were also the guy who inserted the absurd non-sequitur about the CCP not-genociding Uighurs a few pages back?

I'm all Free-World, and fully committed to the SLAY... was that some other Commie-owned&operated member other than you?
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Keep pushing your CHICOM rhetoric
 
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kalashnikev said:
???

You are doing your best to memorize and repeat Kremlin messaging... but I thought you were also the guy who inserted the absurd non-sequitur about the CCP not-genociding Uighurs a few pages back?

I'm all Free-World, and fully committed to the SLAY... was that some other Commie-owned&operated member other than you?
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How often does Zelensky come down to your basement and give you a handjob for all your good work?
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
Dude dial the propaganda back to at least believable levels.
When you are trying to spread disinformation/influence/propaganda or whatever, at least make it vaguely believable.

Everybody even the most pro western idiots know that the Ukraine is a failed rump state completely dependent on their NWO masters and the CIA/USA pulling the strings and corrupt money from the USA basically keeping their government going.

Trump has already made contact with the Russians and the Ukranians and said He is going to work out a deal.
The new administration has already signaled their understanding of why the war happened and what needs to be offered to the Russians to end the war.
The Ukrainians are going to do whatever they are told to and their puppet dictator will do as he is ordered.

In the end the war is going to end with Russia keeping a fair amount of territory, no NATO in the Ukraine and the rest of the Ukraine being owned by Blackrock and whatever is left of the Ukrainians being mining serfs for generations to Blackrock and then having their country flooded with 3rd or Arab world "migrants" just like the rest of Europe to "replace the lost population".

Don't take my word for it, just go read what the great EU is talking about now and their plans and read up how much that puppet dictator sold of "his" country to Blackrock.
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Do they understand why it happended ? Hegseth's comments the other day in Europe about Ukraine joining Nato would indicate otherwise. He did have to walk them back yesterday.
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
And Kansas City won the Superbowl in convincing fashion.

Do you even understand how the game is played? How far into Russia have the Ukraine forces advanced to?
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He doesn't even understand the basic concept of "cause and effect". :rolleyes:

Now, you're expecting him to have the mental acuity of Carl von Clausewitz ? :LOL:
 
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theLBC said:
probably russian disinformation. we should disregard all the stories about sex trafficking in ukraine that came out before the war.
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Unfortunately it will never go away. People have been abusing people from day 1. Greed and the craving for power by evil assholes will never go away. You get rid of one scumbag and 2 more pop up. And it's not just the Ukraine. Shits everywhere.
 
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mosin46 said:
the thing i hear kicked around is what will trump expect to accomplish,what terms he will push for. fact is Putin will stay at it until he gets what he wants. he is the one and only one in control. he has no need to back off of anything he wants. europe is n empty shell and we aren't (i hope) going toe to toe with Russia which would go nuc as an only option. US mil is not fit to fight russia. such would give Iran,NK,china a chance to hit us as well.
we are kinda fucked and need to get out of Europe and deal with Venezuela,Mexico,Canada,the canal and our embedded invaders. our mil has many things needed to do in this country & western hemisphere.
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Unless since I got out in 2012, yeah I mean I certainly didn't like the Jane Fonda BS direction it was headed but it would be hard to believe it's so bad that our regular army couldn't mop the floor with the Russians in a straight up ground war, Obviously Marines would be involved as well, hell it's their wet dream I'm sure.

My evidence for this is commentary from US Army and Marine veterans that went to Ukraine to help them fight the Russians... They literally talk about the Ruskies using the dumbest meat head tactics if you can even call them that of just send a wave of men straight at a target... which goes how you'd expect. The thing they talk about NOT liking is the drone and surveillance, SIGINT etc. they talk about the Russians are good with that and on top of it.
 
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gee wiz,thought we didn't have troops on the ground in Ukraine. if you believe the MSM and like sources then russ casualties are 3x the uke's, if you believe alt sources the it's about 5-1 the other way. hard to know. if anyone thinks that the US and NATO can prevail in a European ground war,you should quite smoking whatever. the army can't recruit enough people. standards have dropped. DEI remains rampant. combat vets,esp leaders,have been systematically removed or left in disgust. leadership is based on ass kissing and towing the correct line. the name Milley ring a bell? European mils in even worse shape longer. i took the US milit >10 years to rebuild after the loss in VN. think it can be restored in 6 mos? ignores the question of do Americans,esp young ones,want to fight in a foreign war? would the American people support such an abortion?
that ignores the issue of transport and supply. we moved huge amounts of people and things in both oceans in ww2,Korea,VN and last 20yr ME mess. was limited to scant/no resistance. unopposed trans oceanic movement is a thing of the past. same applies to aerial movement. against a peer or near peer Eurasian enemy there would be a lot of opposition and subsequent loses. not to mention the economy and effects of our current near bankruptcy.
 
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mosin46 said:
gee wiz,thought we didn't have troops on the ground in Ukraine. if you believe the MSM and like sources then russ casualties are 3x the uke's, if you believe alt sources the it's about 5-1 the other way. hard to know. if anyone thinks that the US and NATO can prevail in a European ground war,you should quite smoking whatever. the army can't recruit enough people. standards have dropped. DEI remains rampant. combat vets,esp leaders,have been systematically removed or left in disgust. leadership is based on ass kissing and towing the correct line. the name Milley ring a bell? European mils in even worse shape longer. i took the US milit >10 years to rebuild after the loss in VN. think it can be restored in 6 mos? ignores the question of do Americans,esp young ones,want to fight in a foreign war? would the American people support such an abortion?
that ignores the issue of transport and supply. we moved huge amounts of people and things in both oceans in ww2,Korea,VN and last 20yr ME mess. was limited to scant/no resistance. unopposed trans oceanic movement is a thing of the past. same applies to aerial movement. against a peer or near peer Eurasian enemy there would be a lot of opposition and subsequent loses. not to mention the economy and effects of our current near bankruptcy.
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Plus all the blowhards think the Russians will just sit there and watch as we move massive amounts of troops to get ready to fight them and then wait nicely for us to go invade and then be all nice and simply let us kill them so we can feel glorious.

I guess that's what happens when you fight sand people for so long and can't even keep the win at that.

Most of western Europe, eastern Europe and western Russia will be a radioactive wasteland shortly after USA troops start pouring across into Russia.

Unlike us, the Russians understand and are willing to do what must be done in the event their homeland is being overrun and won't hesitate to do the needful even if it means scorching part of their own country.

Do you think if China was pouring troops across our border with Mexico or Canada that we wouldn't be giving it everything and I do mean everything we could to get rid of them, mutant cockroaches be damned?

Also once USA troops start going into Russia hot, well everything is now go for it when it comes to anything the Russians and the Chinese can do to the USA itself or interests or assets abroad.
 
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