Va Gun Confiscation Looming!

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If anyone thinks that popping off at these idiots is a good idea now, you are a FUCKING MORON. Now is the time to stand with your sheriff and network with local, like-minded folks for future defense. Raise hell in the state assembly. Look at what the Founders tried peaceably before they started shooting. Hint: it was a whole lot.

There may come a time when you need to do more than stand and network, but when that time comes, it will be readily apparent. Then the networking and support of the sheriff will really make the difference.
 
Yeah, because some dickwad popping off rounds right now is really going to turn public opinion in favor of this? Only thing that does at this point in time is prove the case for getting the guns out of VA. Doing something stupid would only make those trying to take our rights away heroes.

We don’t need any lone wolf dumbasses at this point. The path chosen is the right one for this moment. Peaceful protest and serious statewide pressure on all districts. If they ignore all the citizens then, then all bets are off, but for now, last thing we need is shots fired.

Buy more Rope .......... Rope has play an important part in our Republic almost as much as the musket. So I say buy more Rope .
 
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I don’t think the tyrants care about your momentum. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
If they weren't worried the National Guard wouldn't have crossed their minds.
They're power hungry and would sell their children's souls for a vote in most cases.

You are correct that we must prepare brother.
 
If anyone thinks that popping off at these idiots is a good idea now, you are a FUCKING MORON. Now is the time to stand with your sheriff and network with local, like-minded folks for future defense. Raise hell in the state assembly. Look at what the Founders tried peaceably before they started shooting. Hint: it was a whole lot.

There may come a time when you need to do more than stand and network, but when that time comes, it will be readily apparent. Then the networking and support of the sheriff will really make the difference.

Exactly the founders tried every avenue of redress for their grievances before ever firing a shot. We should make every effort to combat this peacefully as is being done. There are many freedoms the constitution enumerates to the people and we would be wise to exercise these in our defense.

However, we would be foolish to not prepare for the worst. Your advice to making alliances with local sheriffs is sound. They have resources and equipment the common citizenry do not have. As Benjamin Franklin said, “We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”
 
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If anyone thinks that popping off at these idiots is a good idea now, you are a FUCKING MORON. Now is the time to stand with your sheriff and network with local, like-minded folks for future defense. Raise hell in the state assembly. Look at what the Founders tried peaceably before they started shooting. Hint: it was a whole lot.

There may come a time when you need to do more than stand and network, but when that time comes, it will be readily apparent. Then the networking and support of the sheriff will really make the difference.
This exactly. Peacefully try to change things and get everyone you know to participate and vote. Put pressure on these people. They work for us and some need a reminder.
 
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Yeah, because some dickwad popping off rounds right now is really going to turn public opinion in favor of this? Only thing that does at this point in time is prove the case for getting the guns out of VA. Doing something stupid would only make those trying to take our rights away heroes.

We don’t need any lone wolf dumbasses at this point. The path chosen is the right one for this moment. Peaceful protest and serious statewide pressure on all districts. If they ignore all the citizens then, then all bets are off, but for now, last thing we need is shots fired.

exactly the kind of wishy washy mealy mouthed faggotry that has got us where we are now.

anyone who gives a single fuck about public perception as it relates to their rights after we have spent 60 years being pussies and losing at EVERY SINGLE TURN is a fucking retarded pussy.

makes me sick. The time for optics cucking was 25 years ago. We are over that particular mountain now.

you all can stuff your billboards, and convincing minorities to be based constitutionalists, or thinking you can argue a Democrat into not wanting you dead or neutered, directly up your asses.
 
Guys, don’t fight amongst yourselves. We all must put our differences aside right now, for the common good, that is your rights, my rights, the rights our our children and so on. Yes, we must try every peaceful means to turn the tide here but make no mistake things are about to get real, real fast and people are going to have to go soul searching for just how much their rights mean to them, if that time comes. Hopefully, it’s not any time soon but make no mistake even if they disperse right now they are just going to regroup and keep trying until they get what they want. At some point it has to be confronted as they don’t seem to be backing down. We shouldn’t have to continue to fight for our God given rights, it’s anti American. If we stop now we might as well kiss the country goodbye as it’s only going to get worse. If none of this works then at some point we have to start using their tactics and that may mean moving to states and completely working to take over them and push out those that don’t agree. That’s essentially what the other side is doing, one state at a time.
 
That mentality has got us here in the first place.
We don't just go blasting away at people.
If we do that then we are no better than they are.

No. Sitting around trying to maintain that sweet sweet conservative moral superiority got us here.
These people were foaming at the mouth to do this decades before columbine. This has nothing to do with shooters.
 
So when are you firing the first shot? i thought the time has passed for typing on a keyboard?

the time has passed long ago where it would do any good, or where “peaceful protesting” or the dumb fuck boomer shit you people spew about raising awareness would do any good.

first shots might come quicker than you think buddy. We all know you’ll be the first to turn on anyone defending their rights though don’t we?
 
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Shots ringing out means the American Spirit is still alive after 250 years , we were considered rebels once before which lead to the birth of a Nation. America can't exist without guns, guns is what lead to the birth of our Nation take guns away America will not exist.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin


"Those who want to disarm you want to rule you" .... One Angry Mother Fucking Patriot .
 
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No. Sitting around trying to maintain that sweet sweet conservative moral superiority got us here.
These people were foaming at the mouth to do this decades before columbine. This has nothing to do with shooters.
The mentality of no restraint is a foolish one brother.
We are all in this fight together so we better get our stuff together.
With great power comes great responsibility.

I stand firm in this fight but we must plan our moves carefully.

We don't need to shoot first ask questions later.

You will be on the wrong side of history my friend.
 
the time has passed long ago where it would do any good, or where “peaceful protesting” or the dumb fuck boomer shit you people spew about raising awareness would do any good.

first shots might come quicker than you think buddy. We all know you’ll be the first to turn on anyone defending their rights though don’t we?
what?
 
I do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution of the United states of America and protect the office of the President.

Never forget those words.

Rot in some foriegn hell if you don't like them.
 
It's not a damn game.

Well come up from TX and critique the euphemisms of our politicians in VA who are doing this to you. I'm not saying you or mammoth aren't on a strong basis for your own feelings, but you're speaking irrationally. It's easy to talk tough when it's not you putting the gloves on. Real VA folks aren't splashing around on some dumbass gun forum like yall are doing here— so go dig through some other gang of rejects to talk into buying that bad to the bone shit. Yall wanna jump straight to Berlin, go fucking nuts for all I care, but don't say I didn't tell ya so.

This is a process that we must go through to either prove the system can function or that the system has failed. It is imperative that we are just in our cause and the empirical rationale up to the point, and beyond, any possible violence. Don't like it, fuck me and dig your own fighting hole then, but I sure as shit ain't gonna be in yall's until the time is clear.
 
Been to Berlin wall intact then.

I don't have spare ammo for slackers that are not all in.

I have been in fighting holes protecting US interests with my boots on the ground.

The system is failing the Constitution.

I get where you're coming from, but you gotta act with the flow or you're gonna fuck it up for everyone. You're a single blade in a grassroots movement, acting out defeats the whole purpose. They want you to get pissed, you understand that, right? They'd love to have some good girls gone lawless shit to throw on the boob tube right the fuck now, you'd make their fucking week. Think about it, this is worth being 100% prepared and universally justified for without the other side controlling the narrative. Don't think for a second that VA will fall to this bullshit under any fucking circumstances, it will be hell and highwater one day soon enough if things keep getting pushed, but as patriots we have a duty to not cast the lives of our countrymen so hastily. Like I said, you have a lot of basis for your feelings on the matter and I don't disagree with where you're coming from, but this ain't some half-literate 3rd world whore we're fighting over— it's the goddamn prom queen. Rest yer boots, enjoy the silence while it's still here.
 
They are willing to kill you if they have to. I have no doubt of this. They will use the power of Govt (NG) to make you afraid. They have no fear of us.

The time will come when that fear turns to anger. Then they will be the ones who are afraid. Until then life goes on.

Thousands showing up at gov meetings could be the seed from which that fear flips. When the peeps find they have no say, that is when the peeps have nothing to lose. That cannot end well for govt. JMHO
 
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I side with those who call for patience. But I'll give the hotheads something to do.

Remember the pictures during Katrina when looters hauled TV sets out of the stores not thinking where the electricity, food, and water would come from during the next days/weeks. I didn't see the actual footage but I bet that these characters also looted mercilessly for food, booze/drugs, and pussy.

Same shit will happen in any bigger city if we experience a massive solar flare or when the 'deplorables' finally had enough and cut off the supplies to the communist's strongholds.

We already use names like Chirak (IL), Bloodymore (MD), etc. The globalists/communist have created these powder kegs with their policies. All you need to do is light the fuse when the day comes.

Find out which neighborhoods voted for these tyrants in your state, understand the supply lines to those places, and IF/WHEN (and only then) the other side goes full retard with lethal force, break some shit to cut off the supplies.

Until then, putting pressure on them in civil ways seems to work just fine. We are reducing the base the top tyrants base their power on. I bet you that there are many Dim voters in the local 2A hearings who say openly: This is NOT what I voted for. Where they stupid? Yes, but certainly not as evil as the tyrants behind all of that.
 
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Hearts and minds has not worked ever.
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Whoever believes that shit, or operates under that fallacy, is mentally defective an should be the first one shot past the wire. Now that said, I have would still help the locals anyway I could, an protect their children at all costs. However to placate like the US has been doing from the mid 60's on not no but hell no.
 
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Ideally Northam and his AG could be removed from office in a legal and peaceful manner.

If they want to commit atrocities against the people then I wouldn’t be surprised if they go out like Gadaffi.
 
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The mentality of no restraint is a foolish one brother.
We are all in this fight together so we better get our stuff together.
With great power comes great responsibility.

I stand firm in this fight but we must plan our moves carefully.

We don't need to shoot first ask questions later.

You will be on the wrong side of history my friend.

the foolish mentality is yours. We’ve been fighting this cancer peacefully and getting STOMPED for it for decades. Literally decades we lose at every turn.

if you don’t think enough is EVER enough than that’s on you. As for many of us out here, we can easily see that we will continue to lose by degrees because of just your mentality. We won’t do it. I’m done, and so are many others.

until these people know there is an existential threat to their survival if they continue on this path we will continue to constantly lose our rights, our culture, out lands and our people to sickening tide of their cancerous ideology.

mostly what I’m saying is, people who are “peace at all costs”types are going to keep Pushing against us until all is lost. You people even shit all over your allies showing up to rallies open carrying empty rifles because of “optics”.

optics don’t matter. Stop shitting on people who see clearer than you and understand that we are decades past winning any kind of culture war with these people.
 
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the foolish mentality is yours. We’ve been fighting this cancer peacefully and getting STOMPED for it for decades. Literally decades we lose at every turn.

if you don’t think enough is EVER enough than that’s on you. As for many of us out here, we can easily see that we will continue to lose by degrees because of just your mentality. We won’t do it. I’m done, and so are many others.

until these people know there is an existential threat to their survival if they continue on this path we will continue to constantly lose our rights, our culture, out lands and our people to sickening tide of their cancerous ideology.

mostly what I’m saying is, people who are “peace at all costs”types are going to keep Pushing against us until all is lost. You people even shit all over your allies showing up to rallies open carrying empty rifles because of “optics”.

optics don’t matter. Stop shitting on people who see clearer than you and understand that we are decades past winning any kind of culture war with these people.
OK. If peparing for future logistic warfare is not enough to keep you busy let me make another suggestion.

We know some of the powers behind the persistent attacks on liberty and freedom we all experienced. Soros, Bloomberg, etc.

Expand and refine the list of the puppet masters. They are armored and armed to the teeth but if you google Baader-Meinhoff and dig deeper you'll find some very ingenious ways to get to the fat cats of your enemy.

Proceed as you can morally justify. Expect being jailed and suicided by the system they financed. But at least you did not die in vain shooting it out with their minions.

Please do not pull some McVeigh shit against innocent bystanders. That's not going to help our cause.
 
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If anyone thinks that popping off at these idiots is a good idea now, you are a FUCKING MORON. Now is the time to stand with your sheriff and network with local, like-minded folks for future defense. Raise hell in the state assembly. Look at what the Founders tried peaceably before they started shooting. Hint: it was a whole lot.

There may come a time when you need to do more than stand and network, but when that time comes, it will be readily apparent. Then the networking and support of the sheriff will really make the difference.

Inches previously given now amount to miles.

We are in this mess in Virginia because states like Illinois, California, Massachusetts, Maryland, and others have taken the stand down approach and allowed this disease to take root and metastasize. Well now the cancer has begun to attack the heart of this nation. The very epicenter of our previously guaranteed rights and freedoms, penned in the blood of our forefathers and their families.
No more inches. No more cells. No more tolerance.
 
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the foolish mentality is yours. We’ve been fighting this cancer peacefully and getting STOMPED for it for decades. Literally decades we lose at every turn.

if you don’t think enough is EVER enough than that’s on you. As for many of us out here, we can easily see that we will continue to lose by degrees because of just your mentality. We won’t do it. I’m done, and so are many others.

until these people know there is an existential threat to their survival if they continue on this path we will continue to constantly lose our rights, our culture, out lands and our people to sickening tide of their cancerous ideology.

mostly what I’m saying is, people who are “peace at all costs”types are going to keep Pushing against us until all is lost. You people even shit all over your allies showing up to rallies open carrying empty rifles because of “optics”.

optics don’t matter. Stop shitting on people who see clearer than you and understand that we are decades past winning any kind of culture war with these people.
Put it on simmer for the time being. Things are going in the right direction and going full boil will ruin the meal. NOTHING has been passed into legislation YET. Right now more people than ever are getting involved and the spotlight is getting brighter on the situation. Right now the propaganda networks are keeping an eye on this and trying to figure out how to malign the pro 2A citizens. I think that it's been rather helpful that the NRA has been UA.
Setting fire right now is not the right time. There's a time for everything and now is the time to prepare for the day when the people's representatives go against the will of the people.
On that day you can lead the charge into Richmond.
 
Put it on simmer for the time being. Things are going in the right direction and going full boil will ruin the meal. NOTHING has been passed into legislation YET. Right now more people than ever are getting involved and the spotlight is getting brighter on the situation. Right now the propaganda networks are keeping an eye on this and trying to figure out how to malign the pro 2A citizens. I think that it's been rather helpful that the NRA has been UA.
Setting fire right now is not the right time. There's a time for everything and now is the time to prepare for the day when the people's representatives go against the will of the people.
On that day you can lead the charge into Richmond.

Well said.
 
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