Va Gun Confiscation Looming!

[Vamike9]

the foolish mentality is yours. We’ve been fighting this cancer peacefully and getting STOMPED for it for decades. Literally decades we lose at every turn.

if you don’t think enough is EVER enough than that’s on you. As for many of us out here, we can easily see that we will continue to lose by degrees because of just your mentality. We won’t do it. I’m done, and so are many others.

until these people know there is an existential threat to their survival if they continue on this path we will continue to constantly lose our rights, our culture, out lands and our people to sickening tide of their cancerous ideology.

mostly what I’m saying is, people who are “peace at all costs”types are going to keep Pushing against us until all is lost. You people even shit all over your allies showing up to rallies open carrying empty rifles because of “optics”.

optics don’t matter. Stop shitting on people who see clearer than you and understand that we are decades past winning any kind of culture war with these people.

I will not continue to debate you, so I'll say this and leave it be.

I've fought this for most of my life, so don't question my passion brother.

I don't need to sound tough, if that day ever comes where we have to fight this another way, you won't have to look to find me.

Not fighting this for decades is what got us here, those who don't vote.

You must outsmart your enemy, and you are just broadcasting to the world that you are ready to shoot someone up, real smart...

That's it, this is not helping our cause.
When things do take a turn for the worse I hope to see you in the frontlines beside all of us who strived for peace first.

 

[TheMammoth]

When things do take a turn for the worse I hope to see you in the frontlines beside all of us who strived for peace first.

My issue is that the way the peace brigade talks, and the number of decades they’ve been doing it, and the number of concessions they’ve made... I absolutely do not think anything will ever push the majority of people who feel like you to the tipping point.

They’ll send national guard in and slaughter dozens of people and you’ll all say “well Virginia is lost, glad I left for Montana!” Or “Should’ve complied and fought it in court!” Etc.

I’m not advocating for lone gunmen to just start taking pot shots at politicians. It wouldn’t break my heart though. And Tim Mcveigh was a fucking retard who killed people that had nothing to do with Waco and Ruby ridge not to mention children.

Mostly what I want is for people to stop optics cucking and pretending that there aren’t tens of thousands of us ready to forcefully and violently stop the slow degradations inflicted on us the last half century or more.

They have politicians who threaten us with nukes and the military, and we scream at each other for wanting to hold an armed demonstration.

Sorry not sorry, they won’t get any more blood from this stone. I’m done.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

So, if the rest of us pussies (I'm in Illinois) are just gonna lay down *but* there are thousands who feel like you do, why don't you kick it off? You are convinced there is no other way - no way to negotiate this to a compromise or success and everyone who tries is a moron and pussy. Why the procrastination? Kick her off, 'Mammoth! Oooh Rah!

I'll try the 2A Sanctuary deal until/unless that fails and in the mean time I'll hold your attempt in my pussy heart of hearts.

VooDoo

 

[Inifinty]

They’ll send national guard in and slaughter dozens of people

I don’t think that would stand. That would be a hearts and minds moment just like the shot heard round the world.

 

[TheMammoth]

So, if the rest of us pussies (I'm in Illinois) are just gonna lay down *but* there are thousands who feel like you do, why don't you kick it off? You are convinced there is no other way - no way to negotiate this to a compromise or success and everyone who tries is a moron and pussy. Why the procrastination? Kick her off, 'Mammoth! Oooh Rah!

I'll try the 2A Sanctuary deal until/unless that fails and in the mean time I'll hold your attempt in my pussy heart of hearts.

VooDoo

yeah and last time it was “bump stocks are gay anyhow”

“I’ll try this assault weapons ban until they confiscate”

before that it was “It’s just that state not mine”

before that it was “well it’s just background checks I’m sure they’re not keeping lists”

before that it was “well it’s just machine guns I don’t even have those”

before that it was “it’s only nationwide pistol laws cropping up in every state”

before that it was “well no one uses silencers or short barreled rifles much”

And all the while people like you sat around convincing everyone to just try this new law out see how it feels, and mocked people like me who said to stop saying that shit.

Yeah, boy, people who openly advocate every new thing be let go because you only want peace and quiet as you sell your children’s future to people who hate you? Yeah. I’ll call you a pussy and you can call me a tough guy. Whatever. I’m no tough guy, I have some training and I know some things but I have no doubt that a team of 20-something armed thugs from the State will kill me QUICK.

Like I said, I’m not advocating for people to immediately run out and start slotting politicians. I’m telling you that if you think crying to people about optics, and thinking that you’re going to “hearts and minds” your way out of this, and convincing people they shouldn’t even consider the idea of fighting back then you’re worse than an enemy.

I HOPE this comes to violence. They’ve threatened us with violence for decades. At every turn and there’s never a consequence. Ever.

There needs to be consequences. The red flag laws are starting and they immediately got abused and people died.

But we should alllllll just wait around and never discuss a willingness to commit violence in opposition to these things.

Yeah ok, buddy.

I mean come on guys, we had a whole thread dedicated to what kind of god damn billboards we’d like to see in order to fight this. Wake the fuck up. If facts mattered we wouldn’t even be having the debate. This is an ideological war that we have absolutely lost. You’re not winning this by pressing harder on the voting ballot.

 

[TheMammoth]

I don’t think that would stand. That would be a hearts and minds moment just like the shot heard round the world.

At this point there’s NOTHING that wouldn’t stand. 50% of the country would cheer in joy at some us being murdered, and 48% of the rest would be like VooDoo Davinci here and tell you to settle down and not be crazy, they only killed a few people just try voting harder next time.

 

[Longshot231]

If the VA legislature passes a bill and it is signed into law which bans or prohibits certain devices and firearms there will probably not be a wholesale confiscation effort.

They would not be that foolish. What would happen is they would select an individual to target.

For example; Fred and Mary Smith are going through a divorce.

Mary gets pissed at Fred cause he won't sign over every cent and possession that he has to her. So she makes a red-flag complaint.

The authorities find out that Fred has certain prohibited devices and/or firearms that should have been surrendered and the amnesty date has passed.

The authorities stage a pre-dawn raid as a result of an ex-parte court order on Fred's house.

Now I won't take this scenario any further but will say that what would need to take place BEFOREHAND, is a NATO type alliance between gunowners like Fred and his like-minded citizens. The premise behind NATO was that if one member country was attacked then it was considered an attack on all member countries and they would respond appropriately.

What is needed is a NATO type alliance between like-minded gunowners. So if Fred sees the SWAT team around his house at 0400, he makes one phone call. Then the phone-tree alerting system is activated. There would have to be an overwhelming number of heavily armed citizens come to Fred's assistance. The message to the SWAT teams would have to be go away or die.

If the SWAT team descends on Fred's house in full force with some heavy metal how many would be willing to come to his aid? I'm asking the question. And it's not unrealistic to think about this.

The same thing happened with the Clive Bundy situation. And the authorities realized that they over reached.

In the situation in Fred's case, the terrain may not favor the defenders. Also ask yourself, if you could rely on others to hold up to a NATO type alliance to defend you?

I believe in strength in numbers. I also believe in force-multipliers if you get my drift.

I would hate to see something like this happen to a law abiding citizen as Fred in my example. If the authorities were to succeed in over powering Fred, he's going to jail for a very long time and will be made an example to anyone who defies the king.

If this were to happen, I would not put any faith in some Judge to rule a draconian anti-gun law as being unconstitutional.

It's sad to say but the only thing that will make the tyrants back off is if there are a lot of dead SWAT members lying around Fred's house and their heavy metal toys in flames. After that, there might be some people in uniform call in sick before the next raid.

I don't expect an answer but ask yourself these two questions:

1) Would you be willing to risk life, limb or liberty to come to someone like Fred's aid to keep him from going to jail or getting killed?
2) How many people to do you trust enough to depend on coming to your aid if something like the aforementioned scenario happens to you?

 

[Bradu]

So, if the rest of us pussies (I'm in Illinois) are just gonna lay down *but* there are thousands who feel like you do, why don't you kick it off? You are convinced there is no other way - no way to negotiate this to a compromise or success and everyone who tries is a moron and pussy. Why the procrastination? Kick her off, 'Mammoth! Oooh Rah!

I'll try the 2A Sanctuary deal until/unless that fails and in the mean time I'll hold your attempt in my pussy heart of hearts.

VooDoo

I keep waiting for the same people that keep saying we need to fight to get things started, yet here we are how many years later with the same people saying we need to fight. It comes down to these people want someone else to do the dirty work while they would be the ones wanting all the credit ???

These guys can keep buying their ammo and talking about what they would do but at the end of the day, they aren't going to do anything but sit behind the keyboard or sit at the bar talking about how bad ass they are.

 

[TheMammoth]

These guys can keep buying their ammo and talking about what they would do but at the end of the day, they aren't going to do anything but sit behind the keyboard or sit at the bar talking about how bad ass they are.

Seems to me like everyone has been taking your advice for decades and gotten no where. And every time someone DOES fight back, you all mock them for their trouble like the Bundy standoff.

Why don’t you just stop pretending you care?

 

[Bradu]

Seems to me like everyone has been taking your advice for decades and gotten no where. And every time someone DOES fight back, you all mock them for their trouble like the Bundy standoff.

Why don’t you just stop pretending you care?

I don't recall reading where you came to their rescue either...

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Yall Boosie Badasses sound like bait feds, no shit lol.

Like someone said a few posts back, put it on simmer.

 

[candyx]

The Shot Heard Round the World, only takes one to get the ball rolling......... Thank God they took it .............


By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood,
And fired the shot heard round the world.
The foe long since in silence slept;
Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
And Time the ruined bridge has swept
Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.
On this green bank, by this soft stream,
We set to-day a votive stone;
That memory may their deed redeem,
When, like our sires, our sons are gone.
Spirit, that made those heroes dare
To die, and leave their children free,
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raise to them and thee.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

[Longshot231]

We keep seeing guys like that beating their chest and I've always wondered why they haven't started it by now...

Been reading similar posts


I keep waiting for the same people that keep saying we need to fight to get things started, yet here we are how many years later with the same people saying we need to fight. It comes down to these people want someone else to do the dirty work while they would be the ones wanting all the credit ???

These guys can keep buying their ammo and talking about what they would do but at the end of the day, they aren't going to do anything but sit behind the keyboard or sit at the bar talking about how bad ass they are.

You make excellent points. The basic question is what is the threshold for armed response against an oppressive government?

Remember that they don't enact all of their (wished for) draconian laws at once. They know they would be tossed out of office during the next election.

Instead, people like Diane Frankenstein, preach "compromise" when wanting to enact "common sense" gun laws. Then after they get their way and are in front of a friendly crowd they say something like; "this was a first step."

Then you see a few more steps taken until a lot of people get really pissed off and there is a drastic polarization with a few (or many) more anti-gun laws passed.

So this takes me back to what would be the threshold for armed response? Here are the possibilities and not necessarily in order.

1) Suspension, prohibition or corruption of free elections. (i.e, Battle of Athens, Tennessee 1946)
2) An attack by authorities on peaceful citizens (Boston Massacre 1770 or the Colfax Massacre of 1873 which lead to the Cruikshank decision of 1876)
3) Wholesale confiscation of legally owned weapons (Lexington & Concorde 1775)

Those are the three that I can think of and there are probably more.

 

[alpine44]

Let it simmer for now

BUT prepare to get to the enemy any way from any angle with any tool/technology once they cross the Rubicon and take more lives with red flag laws or mass confiscation.

Right know, all you hotheads want to wield is guns and that is so 1775 in today's world.

 

[Inifinty]

The cities and people in the rural counties will likely continue to splinter. The rural counties will likely fold but the people will take over. There will be no desire to take cities unless offensive ops are staged from there.

The cities will retake immediately surrounding counties and corridors between them, but the lines of liberty are already largely drawn on a map.

The pain and suffering will bring us to the final step toward the NWO which will be dangled like a carrot on a stick.

 

[Switchblade]

It took Samuel Adams ten years to get pissed off enough to create and lead the Sons of Liberty. He was 54 years old, a year younger than I. Me, I have nothing to lose, and everything to gain by finding a group of capable men who can do things. The advice I received at this time was to not do anything. It is not time yet. It's super easy to recon with google maps by using a generic start point then moving to your chosen area to lay out what we basically call range cards.
Command and Control rely on digital wave communications so those antennae must be dropped first. They rely on power, so that must be taken out for their grid only. So many plans to make for the day, and so many rounds to load up for 308's that will damage whatever they hit. The new monometal copper alloys are awesome at 2700fps down to 2550fps. They deliver more downrange power and do not deform too much unless you really heat them up through a long barrel. 16" and 18" barrels are fine for some stuff, and for those oh, it does a nice sedate 2800fps out of truck axle match barrel for extended range stuff

 

[nn8734]

I believe everyone here is aligned but there are some differences of opinion on the timing of what should be done.

No reason to fight amongst ourselves, save that energy for fighting the left.

For now, political solutions are the most prudent way to go...VA commies know they overstepped and backpedaling accordingly.

It’s wonderful to see the breadth of response across the state, rising up to oppose this shit; something that should have happened in places like New York and California decades ago.

That said, we CANNOT be content with short term wins; the long game must be played. Unlike yesteryear, the definition for success can’t be limited to just stopping (temporarily) the bleeding but has to conclude complete recovery of the patient (our 2A rights).

To me, This means
1) Electing pro-freedom /pro 2A lawmakers at every level of government starting
2) Repeal of all blanket bans on so called “assault” weapons in states that have them
3) Repeal of all Red Flag laws
4) Repeal of the NFA
5) Favorable SCOTUS decisions on 2A cases, starting with this one concerning NY

Deck is stacked against us, as leftists own the media, have infested our primary and secondary schools and are moving illegal aliens into this country by the trainload so it will be an uphill battle to say the least. The modern war on freedom started in 1934 so they have had quite a head start. But they have also suffered set backs (DC v Heller, 94 AWB expiration and non-renewl)

I believe we will know when the time comes to take up arms. The left can only play this incremental shit for so long before they force everyone into a corner. Then the question put to every individual will be whether he or she wants to live on their knees or their feet.

If enough people decide the latter, we will likely prevail; if not, well we’re fucked. I’ve made that decision a long time ago

You will have to excuse me now as I’m going shooting.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

I dunno, but if I remember correctly, the phrase "common sense" and "first step" was used at least 25 years ago in the same context. It don't matter what "progress" (or 'dastardly deed') the anti's make,,,, they'll still be on the same footing the next 'go around'.

Just remember that "their footing" is "their boots on your neck".

 

[45.308]

I haven't read all 1167 of these but I can see why we fail. The enemy within have a game plan, they stick to it no matter what, are well financed, rally to each other for support no matter how stupid, moronic, ill advised, etc. their actions.

 

[hunter8793]

So is this it? It’s happening .gif

 

[alpine44]

The cities and people in the rural counties will likely continue to splinter. The rural counties will likely fold but the people will take over. There will be no desire to take cities unless offensive ops are staged from there.

The cities will retake immediately surrounding counties and corridors between them, but the lines of liberty are already largely drawn on a map.

The pain and suffering will bring us to the final step toward the NWO which will be dangled like a carrot on a stick.

Of course, what we are fighting is not just an initiative against guns. This is an attack on liberty, freedom, and America itself.

As someone here put it so nicely, we do not have a ghetto whore but the prom queen as our country. I think Lady Liberty gets that point across quite nicely. The globalists are jealous, power hungry, stand to profit from our decline and try to incite a racial and ethnic war in this country. They want us all on each other's throats, figuratively or literally. Look at his whole identity politics scheme for example.

We need to be smart and redraw the front lines. We should not care about skin color, heritage, sexual orientation, etc. but ask who is on the side of Authoritarianism and who is on the the side protecting the Liberty of the individual. I have much bigger problems with a white, straight guy who tells me what guns I can legally own than with some chick of color who gets fucked by a horse but stays out of my life. (If the latter is against 1A, 2A, etc. then to hell with her too)

Any violent clash will bring the markets and the dollar down. Ten thousands, possibly hundred thousands lives may be lost. But those who practice independence and self-reliance today (hint: not the supporters of totalitarianism/communism in the cities) will prevail if they realize where they are strong and their enemy is weak.

The alternative is to sit back and let the the cancer of totalitarianism/communism spread. This will cost millions of lives according to the precedents in the history books. It will inescapably lower this country into the ranks of third-world banana republics.

Our actions should be seen like a chemotherapy. America will suffer, it will puke, it will loose hair (i.e. lives). But if the cancer cells die faster than the body, we will have won. We know who the cancer cells are, we know where they live and what they need to live.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

My sentiments on the matter are basically that ain't the story for this campfire, and if yall aren't talking shit I would take a good long fuckin look at your OPSEC so far. This ain't no goddamn TEOTWAWKI thread and we ain't in Iraq. Everyman should be making himself an island right now, not drumming up a fucking Sons of Liberty meeting on a public goddamned board. It's a chickenshit outfit for a reason, and all this fire and brimstone shouting ain't doing anyone a goddamn bit of good. Yall should be networking and forming alliances, not splashing your final stand all over open coms. What the goddamn in the exact fuck yall are trying to accomplish with this shit is beyond me.

 

[Matches Malone]

You make excellent points. The basic question is what is the threshold for armed response against an oppressive government?

There is no threshold. You wait to long, people start losing their lives. Like in some of the redflag law incidents. You move to quick, and possibly over react.

On the other side, the world can do without certain senators. That would be a good start. Right at the snakes head. Problem is there is no organization, and personally I don’t trust people without at least some verifiable credentials anyways, so i would add there no vetted organization of people that I know of that can pull off, reliably at any rate. Think of all that goes into military operations in regards to making a jpel and hvt list, then executing operations against. Now imagine in your backyard.

One man making a shot then rotting in prison after being apprehended will just be made a monster by the media and make the slain a martyr with no organization and no after action plan.

 

[DuneBoer]

Govenor needs to be impeached.

 

[Bradu]

Inches previously given now amount to miles.

We are in this mess in Virginia because states like Illinois, California, Massachusetts, Maryland, and others have taken the stand down approach and allowed this disease to take root and metastasize. Well now the cancer has begun to attack the heart of this nation. The very epicenter of our previously guaranteed rights and freedoms, penned in the blood of our forefathers and their families.
No more inches. No more cells. No more tolerance.

People often blame it on the states you mentioned but why does the Federal assault weapons ban of 94 never get mentioned when discussing not doing anything? What about the bump stock ban and people standing around doing nothing? Most people sit back and laugh at states run by Democrats that have lost their gun rights. A lot of people have laughed at the states that stripped away some of our rights until it starts coming to a state near you.

Everyone says we should have done more but where were the people from neighboring states? Everyone expects us to take off work and go rallies and have our voice heard but where is the support from fellow gun owners?

 

[alpine44]

My sentiments on the matter are basically that ain't the story for this campfire, and if yall aren't talking shit I would take a good long fuckin look at your OPSEC so far. This ain't no goddamn TEOTWAWKI thread and we ain't in Iraq. Everyman should be making himself an island right now, not drumming up a fucking Sons of Liberty meeting on a public goddamned board. It's a chickenshit outfit for a reason, and all this fire and brimstone shouting ain't doing anyone a goddamn bit of good. Yall should be networking and forming alliances, not splashing your final stand all over open coms. What the goddamn in the exact fuck yall are trying to accomplish with this shit is beyond me.

Totally agree.

The only reason I went into some high level battlefield analysis here is because I know that the enemy knows their weakness and our strength already, Every business, town, county, state, and country does vulnerability analyses.

Just wanted to make the hotheads on our side aware that shooting it out with the goon squad is not the winning strategy. Anything more specific we should indeed discuss in smaller, vetted circles.

OUT

 

[45.308]

Exactly! We are our own worse enemy and the enemy within knows this, this is all in their game plan.

Once again, we have no plan, we cant even agree on anything other than complaining we don't like the direction and is even not in agreement, we have no financing and we call those who stand up as idiots to its not my fight.

We are doomed to fail!! Every time I say this, I get called lazy, just sit there, you are on your knees surrendering, a whole host of name calling but again, tell me exactly who and how we make a difference.

People often blame it on the states you mentioned but why does the Federal assault weapons ban of 94 never get mentioned when discussing not doing anything? What about the bump stock ban and people standing around doing nothing? Most people sit back and laugh at states run by Democrats that have lost their gun rights. A lot of people have laughed at the states that stripped away some of our rights until it starts coming to a state near you.

Everyone says we should have done more but where were the people from neighboring states? Everyone expects us to take off work and go rallies and have our voice heard but where is the support from fellow gun owners?

 

[Fig]

Its not like you’re going to have to wait long before they attack. That IS the point. Murdering their citizens till they’re subjects and no longer resist being ruled IS the point.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

 

[Fig]

Defend yourself and your family like free man. That’s all that required.

 

[nn8734]

Its not like you’re going to have to wait long before they attack. That IS the point. Murdering their citizens till they’re subjects and no longer resist being ruled IS the point.



Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

Alexandr’s passage needs to be in front of as many eyeballs as humanly possible, esp those that think it “could never happen here”

 

[Vamike9]

Most of us feel the same way. We will not comply!
Actions speak louder than words.
As I've stated before we rarely get organized like we are now. That is the movement that is making a difference.

If you are in it to instigate, divide or hurt our cause then we don't need your help.

Like Reid mentioned from Valor Ridge, if they start rolling over our hills, you will see how things go...

 

[SilentStalkr]

Ok, so here is my question to all of you guys. Let’s assume that the marker is that they start taking people out while enforcing these laws. History has shown that they have no issue doing that but that’s for another discussion. My question to you all is that when they do take people out enforcing these laws, how are you going to mobilize and communicate when all normal forms of comms will be cut off? Need to get the message out? Don’t expect the media to help as in times past as they are part of the issue and will quickly sweep any wrongdoing under the rug. So, on a comm only basis how would you spread the word to the masses? How would you encourage your fellow brothers and sisters to have sympathy for the cause and come to the air of those that might need it? The truth is, people have already been more or less murdered under the guise of all kinds of things, freedoms have already been taken and nobody has done anything. So, I guess I’m kind of on the fence as to when people will actually respond and even more so in regards as to what people will do as most haven’t responded cause they really have no idea how to respond. As mentioned earlier, the enemy of the state is armed, have strategic plans and they execute it flawlessly. Our side doesn’t even seem to be able to muster much of anything real tangible other than the movement I have seen in VA which I’m super proud of. It’s more than I’ve seen in any other state so far!

 

[Long Range 338]

Per the Founding Fathers: "We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor".

When the citizenry is willing to make the same pledge, you know your timing is right.

 

[Vamike9]

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Ok, so here is my question to all of you guys. Let’s assume that the marker is that they start taking people out while enforcing these laws. History has shown that they have no issue doing that but that’s for another discussion. My question to you all is that when they do take people out enforcing these laws, how are you going to mobilize and communicate when all normal forms of comms will be cut off? Need to get the message out? Don’t expect the media to help as in times past as they are part of the issue and will quickly sweep any wrongdoing under the rug. So, on a comm only basis how would you spread the word to the masses? How would you encourage your fellow brothers and sisters to have sympathy for the cause and come to the air of those that might need it? The truth is, people have already been more or less murdered under the guise of all kinds of things, freedoms have already been taken and nobody has done anything. So, I guess I’m kind of on the fence as to when people will actually respond and even more so in regards as to what people will do as most haven’t responded cause they really have no idea how to respond. As mentioned earlier, the enemy of the state is armed, have strategic plans and they execute it flawlessly. Our side doesn’t even seem to be able to muster much of anything real tangible other than the movement I have seen in VA which I’m super proud of. It’s more than I’ve seen in any other state so far!

Safe bet that the closest the line gets is a red flag confiscation of a single Virginian's firearms. At that point, the oven is definitively "on". Virginians will not shrink from the challenge when it comes, and we will not be sated to simply return to how things were once it's underway or wrapped up either. All it is gonna take it the smallest spark and this literal powderkeg issue is going into the motherfucking stratosphere.

 

[Vamike9]

I started this thread to warn/update people regularly about what's headed our way.

I don't know about y'all but the thought of turning my home state into a war zone is absolutely the last thing I want to do.

When they give us no other choice then we have to do what is required.

Don't try to be a hero only to look like a fool.
One person can not solve this puzzle.

 

[Not a Clue]

I totally agree Mike. I think some people think everyone that's on this forum is ex-Special Ops. Newsflash, we aren't. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I'm pretty sure I don't want to wage war on someone with absolutely no training in warfare. Doesn't mean I can't learn or I won't stand beside you when that day comes, but I'm probably not the guy to start it all. I'd probably get dropped getting out of my car

 

[SilentStalkr]

I started this thread to warn/update people regularly about what's headed our way.

I don't know about y'all but the thought of turning my home state into a war zone is absolutely the last thing I want to do.

When they give us no other choice then we have to do what is required.

Don't try to be a hero only to look like a fool.
One person can not solve this puzzle.

Good plan, but what are you going to do when this avenue of communication is cut off, which it can be pretty easily. I’m not asking these questions for me, I’m asking things like this to get you guys thinking of how you can actually do something without all the modern day conveniences you currently have at your disposal.

I’m saying, when they do start taking people out, your not likely to find out about it and that is how they will target people. As said, they ain’t going to come around house to house with the NG confiscating stuff. nobody is that stupid but when something does happen, how are you guys going to respond? You need to think about that. I didn’t agree with what the Bundies did but nobody can convince me that that old man wasn’t executed. Thats just one example. Something to think about.

 

[Longshot231]

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Hey Gov, you just might run into a few who are real life Rambo's. Don't count on every Guardsman to shoot his neighbor or his relative.

You might have to answer the question; Do movies depict reality or is it the other way around?

 

[Not a Clue]

If they are relying on me shooting back, they better send fat people to take my stuff. I mean at least a 60 MOA size person would help me a lot.

Other than that, I volunteer to do runs to Wendy's for anyone that needs a burger. No special orders, I can't keep up with all that shit.

 

[Vamike9]

Absolutely, I hope that each of you are at least aware of your closest militia.
Have a plan like any other emergency situation.
Self defense is the most important tool one can have.

 

[heronblue7]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Northam asks for National Guard from other states.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Absolutely, I hope that each of you are at least aware of your closest militia.
Have a plan like any other emergency situation.
Self defense is the most important tool one can have.

No offense, but most militias I’ve seen are a bunch of old guys that want to play soldier or relive the glory years. I’m not saying their isn’t good ones out there or that they don’t have something to offer but beware that there are a lot out there that are likely to get lots of people killed.

 

[myronman3]

i thought we went over this whole “national guard” thing and had it settled? some of you just seem hell bent on pushing someone over the edge. thank GOD you are not running the show, it would have been lost already. a couple of guttersnipes and a little bit of booze and the NG is combat ineffective.

i agree with “not another inch”. but.....blasting others because they havent gone postal yet is stoopid. and reading over and over, the same fools advocating for it is getting really old. pull your heads out of your posteriors.

i’m out. any of my brothers and sisters in VA need anything, PM me. i’ve had enough of the keyboard toughguys and their espousing of stupidity.

 

[MK20]

It is rather interesting to see the discussions and disagreements that occur here.

I was reading the Letters of John Adams, Addressed to his Wife, and found some interesting statements that may help us come together.

"There is a great spirit in the Congress. But our people must be peaceable. Let them exercise every day in the week, if they will; the more, the better. Let them furnish themselves with artillery, arms, and ammunition. Let them follow the maxim, which you say they have adopted, "In times of peace prepare for war." But let them avoid war if possible-if possible, I say."

He also instructed his wife to pass on direction to one of his friends who was rather cantankerous. "Tell Brackett I shall make him leave off drinking rum. We can't let him fight yet."

It is interesting to see that, while they largely expected to see war come, they believed that God would not bless an offensive war. Thus they were determined to do all they could towards peace, while preparing for the almost inevitable conflict.
Additionally, I thought it interesting that he also was apparently a fan of Army Jerry because he advised buying more ammo, as well as guns and heavy weapons

 

[SilentStalkr]

i thought we went over this whole “national guard” thing and had it settled? some of you just seem hell bent on pushing someone over the edge. thank GOD you are not running the show, it would have been lost already. a couple of guttersnipes and a little bit of booze and the NG is combat ineffective.

i agree with “not another inch”. but.....blasting others because they havent gone postal yet is stoopid. and reading over and over, the same fools advocating for it is getting really old. pull your heads out of your posteriors.

i’m out. any of my brothers and sisters in VA need anything, PM me. i’ve had enough of the keyboard toughguys and their espousing of stupidity.

The weird thing is, most of you usually agree with each other here.

 

[105gr]

I agree and disagree with some things everybody has said. However. Sticking together is our biggest offensive AND defensive plan...

 

[myronman3]

the unrelenting, gun-grabbing sons-a-bitches got us all pushed to the limit. We have all had enough.

But that doesnt mean that you disengage your brain. Sticking together and backing the good folks in virginia is of the utmost importance.

 

[Sportin Wood]

Sadly Washington State is not too far behind Virginia...

 

[105gr]

They need to fight the same fight VA is