Im still awaiting the gruesom newsom kick on the street ceremony, and Im growing bored.Has anything ever been done from these petitions?
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Im still awaiting the gruesom newsom kick on the street ceremony, and Im growing bored.Has anything ever been done from these petitions?
They dont belong in America period. Exile their traitorous asses to the middle east or Venezuela.Death by 1000 cuts, anti-gunners chip away little by little.
That is why we must take the offensive like we are now beginning to do in Va.
I really don't think Virginians are going to allow this for a good while.
That makes me glad, time to vote these idiots out!
They don't belong in a freedom loving state.
Honestly, I am not sure, but if it gets big enough, people/media tend to notice.Has anything ever been done from these petitions?
Evil politicians, people who protect them, people who are willing to enforce these laws, and sympathizers. That was easy.As much as I hate to say it, I agree with most of what you said. I don't think the percentage of people turning in guns would be that high but I think it would be high.
The part about them wanting people to act out so they can say this is why we need to confiscate is spot on. It would play right into their hand if people were to start shooting and I don't think it will accomplish anything because they wouldn't get to the people that are behind this. My question has always been just who are you going to be fighting in this civil war they speak of?
This is the best answer.Just get 6 decent platoons put together and go arrest the Govenor, the AG, and members of the legislature for treason against the Constitution. Have the Sheriffs get a warrant from a Conservative Judge so it's all legal. Have a trial. Found guilty hang them. Probably be the last time anyone try's this un-constitutional treasonous crap again. If you do it right very few people die. It's legal because you have a warrant and LE involved. No reason to start a civil war because a few Constitutional criminals got voted into office. Go get em Virginians!
Evil politicians, people who protect them, people who are willing to enforce these laws, and sympathizers. That was easy.
Of course not. Thats why i elaborated. ?You really think you would get close enough to a politician ???
I hope you are right. But I doubt it. We have seen their tactics before.I agree on most of your statement, however, I respectfully disagree on one point, I believe that they will bend on most of the gun control.
They'll probably switch to background checks because that's less of a hot button issue.
Although I do agree that the elites/liberal left are stupid enough to start a revolution in Va if they proceed to act tough.
Not many people can get off work the first day back after a holiday and go out of the way to venture into the liberal sanctuaries of academia for a hearing.
Not many people can get off work the first day back after a holiday and go out of the way to venture into the liberal sanctuaries of academia for a hearing.
One things for sure, Virginia isn't California, we've got plenty of corrupt politicians like CA, but we are much different in our values and how we protect them.
My whole family shoots as a group when we are target shooting. Are the police going to come on my land and arrest each one of us that is holding a banned weapon?
Not making a anti LEO statement however. Keep in mind, if the new laws ever exempt LEO most those officers standing with you will turn on you and enforce them.
Bullshit.
Hope so.
I'm not trying to stir the pot but see human nature. For example, Fudds. They don't typically care about black rifles and pistols so it doesn't effect them and they aren't much help. I still got my huntin' rifle.
I hope they stay the course with the rest of you but I won't be surprised if they don't.
Dividing and conquering has always been a tactic to destroy or disable a certain class of people or segment of society to achieve a certain ends.
Just look at why socialism is so popular now. To the person who doesn't have a lot of money, unemployed or to lazy to even look for a job; the concept of taking money from someone, who perceptibly, has too much sounds like a good idea. The mantra of taxing the rich sounds great until you realize that poor people don't create jobs.
On a smaller scale look at the dynamics of a club sometime. For example, there is only so much money for range improvement at a gun club. The trap shooters will argue for the money to be spent on their range. Pistol shooters are upset that the money isn't spent on better lighting for their range. The rifle shooters think that the money could be spent on lengthening the range and raising the backstop. Everyone wants the money spent for their particular shooting venue.
That's why you didn't hear to0 many trap shooters bitching in states where they want to ban "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines."
I'm not bad-mouthing all LEOs but if you don't think there isn't an "us against them" mentality among some people who wear a badge then you haven't lived long enough.
Their might be some who will keep their mouths shut when they find out that they can keep their privately owned "assault weapons" because they've been anointed with god-like status of wearer-of-the-golden-badge.
Someone joked with me one time when we were talking politics. He said, "I don't care who the dictator is, as long as he makes me the Chief of Police." My friend was joking but in reality, there are a lot of people that think that way.
Your next door neighbor may be more of a mercenary than you think. He might be willing to turn your ass in if he thought it might benefit his social or economic standing. And he could care less if you were sent to jail for a very long time while he looks in on your wife or daughter occasionally to check on their welfare.
It wasn't just the Gestapo, SS or Einsatzgruppen that did all the work to round up the Jews in Europe. They had some help from everyday people who may have worked at the bakery, factory, clothing store or were a doctor, teacher or maid.
If an ordinary citizen wouldn't have reservations on dropping a dime on you because of your "evil" guns, don't think a cop couldn't take some sort of pleasure in arresting you. I'm not saying they are all like that but think about this.
LEOs are just like the rest of us. They have bills to pay, a mortgage, medical expenses, families to take care of and retirement to worry about. In short; money is a strong incentive to get some people to change their convictions.
In the end, some cops don't give a damn about some redneck down the road who won't give up his AR-15. Some of these LEOs won't go in the redneck's house like they are clearing some rooms in Fallujah. They will get their heavy metal toys and teargas the hell out of the redneck and his family. Deep down the LEO may be thinking; "Sucks to be them. I got three kids and another on the way. I need this job and my pension."
Remember that when Hitler came to power and Firearms Act of 1938 went into effect, he didn't ban all guns. If you were a good member of the NAZI party, you could own a gun. It was the non-Aryans who were SOL.
Do a little research on Johann Reichhart. He started out as an executioner for the Weimar Republic. Then when the NAZIs came to power, he was still "just doing his job." In fact, it was he who executed Sophie Sholl and her brother. He had no choice cause he was "just doing his job."
What is just as disgusting about Reichart is that he executed war criminals for the US military. After all, he had plenty of practice.
I'm not bad mouthing all LEOs but like Reichart, there will be plenty that will be "just doing their job."
Why are we still stuck on Us vs Them? It's gonna take all of US to preserve our Rights and stop this shit and all a lot of folks want to do is keep drawing a fucking line in the sand and daring someone to cross it. This is US vs The Politicians....we can go back to hating everyone else when we deal with those fuckers.
Until then please get with yer neighbors and help US come together not push US apart.
VooDoo
Why are we still stuck on Us vs Them? It's gonna take all of US to preserve our Rights and stop this shit and all a lot of folks want to do is keep drawing a fucking line in the sand and daring someone to cross it. This is US vs The Politicians....we can go back to hating everyone else when we deal with those fuckers.
Until then please get with yer neighbors and help US come together not push US apart.
VooDoo
Division of the people is tyranny's greatest ally.
Now, how do I make that SA a bolt action?
Yeah...I was being rhetorical. If we *really* want to help the Anti's then all we have to do is keep hating on potential allies because they are not *just like us* and stay separated into US vs Them and screeching about Boogaloo's and violence and treason and hanging people. There may come a time for that but we ought to all be, any of US who have seen that shit elsewhere, doing our best to be our best until it's time for that.
You'll know when it comes time for violence and we should all be doing our best to avoid that. I don't get it when people who have seen violence of citizen against citizen advocating for that here in America. It's disgusting and it's not what Americans are made of.
VooDoo
Why the gun grabbers always slip in exemptions for leos and active military. To try to keep them on their side as their stormtroopers.Not making a anti LEO statement however. Keep in mind, if the new laws ever exempt LEO most those officers standing with you will turn on you and enforce them.
Yeah...I was being rhetorical. If we *really* want to help the Anti's then all we have to do is keep hating on potential allies because they are not *just like us* and stay separated into US vs Them and screeching about Boogaloo's and violence and treason and hanging people. There may come a time for that but we ought to all be, any of US who have seen that shit elsewhere, doing our best to be our best until it's time for that.
You'll know when it comes time for violence and we should all be doing our best to avoid that. I don't get it when people who have seen violence of citizen against citizen advocating for that here in America. It's disgusting and it's not what Americans are made of.
VooDoo
Why the gun grabbers always slip in exemptions for leos and active military. To try to keep them on their side as their stormtroopers.
THE ONLY ENEMY IS THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LEFTISTS AND THEIR AGENDA.
One could assume that the 18 workers under the direction of secretary Moran would coordinate and oversee the collection of banned weapons across the state. Or operate the registration of grandfathered weapons and the most likely fee to go along with it.I seriously doubt any 18 person team is an assualt team. The more likely guess is it's 18 geeks that will be used to track transactions, facebook posts, instagram, and financial records to find the people they want to target. That's my guess.
Also, his elite protection of State Personel probably aren't too thrilled with him either. His budgets stops them from getting pay increases. So the economy in VA is booming, lowest unemployment in it's history (2.6%) and he locks out pay increases for them. They aren't happy with him either.