Va Gun Confiscation Looming!

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The fed govt is not going to let VA have a state sized war within its boundaries. Neither are all your friends going to run over to help you out. Your going to be on that lonely island. They will be watching the news and typing like a mofo on some forum "mah guns will never be taken." Until its their turn...to be on the news.

Your governor and legislators will not step down at any point.
 
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MK20 said:
It’s easy.

whenever you get a drivers license, you do a NICS check and if you are a felon a mark gets put on the back of the DL.

when you buy a gun, from a dealer or private, it is law to check for the prohibited possessor mark. If it isn’t there, you pay the money and walk out with the gun. No paperwork, no 4473.

now they would never go for this because they really like the back door registration that is accomplished by that 4473.
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I particularly like this idea because it does what they are requesting by having a background check done one everyone, not just gun owners, and also on the illegals that are now getting driver licenses. And most importantly deletes any chance of a defacto registry.

Great idea.
 
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Dick Saslaw obviously does not recognize the gravity of the situation.

They’ve basically said they want to castrate every third male in the state, and think people are OK with that? NO SIR!
 
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I keep telling anyone that will listen, they are going to pass every law they have proposed. People keep telling me that I'm nuts, that'll never happen. The fight the people have waged is the largest fight against governmental overreach I've ever seen in my lifetime. It's impressive as hell. It's impressive to see 1000's of people show up to meetings that normally had 20 people. It's impressive to see 100's and 100's of people stand in the cold rain for hours just to hear the outcome from some board of supervisor meetings. It's impressive to me that no matter how short of notice given, 1000's of people show to, trying to hold the representatives accountable. It really does give you faith that we can accomplish anything if we stand together.

Then you get kicked square in the nuts when they ignore every single one of you.

For everyone one anti-gun person showing up, 200-300 2A Freedom Fighters show up, yet are going to be ignored.

I suspect there will be more than 10,000 people on the Lobby Day on the 20th and I suspect it won't change one single vote or the wording on one single bill. As Saslaw shows, they just don't give a shit what we do or what we think.
 
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I'm positive some relatively meaningless wording will be changed in the proposed bills so the commies can say they "compromised", and the media will push the "unreasonable gun nuts" narrative.
 
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I don’t think they understand the peril they put both sides of the equation into. This isn’t going away unless they stop it. Attempts at enforcement will mean casualties on both sides - while the politicians hide behind their security details. They are doing this because they want to, and because they think they can.....regardless of cost in human lives. This attack on every American’s Constitutional Rights will most likely hit closer to home than they think it will.

It’s not like people haven’t attempted to explain it to them....
 
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Meanwhile in Florida they are trying a different approach. Put it on the ballot and let the people vote.
Doesn't look like they will get the required signatures to make the ballot this time though. But... The people, 2A people, better get their heads in the game.
www.floridatoday.com

'Gun grabbers in Tallahassee,' proposed state amendment targeted by Republican Liberty Caucus

Monday's forum in Cocoa aimed at pushing back against proposed constitutional amendment banning certain semiautomatic weapons
www.floridatoday.com
 
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j-huskey said:
A talented local youth, properly subsidized, after visiting Best Buy, then Starbucks, could create way more lasting havoc and confusion than those battle hardened 'mofo's'.....

There are too many here thinking old school land warfare tactics.......

In the long run, and the end, feet on the ground will determine much, but, there is a lot to be ,or can be, done b4 then.

Quit thinking neanderthal and big army footprint.
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I agree and there are many ways it can and will play out. I was merely making a point that IMO should shtf, it is going to attract people.

I honestly do not think and I pray it will come to that.

Another angle is using financial pressure. Something I have not seen written about nor discussed.

Not sure what that would look like and would take massive organization both within and out of state...

Hit the pocketbooks. The left is pretty good at this...
 
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pmclaine said:
Is VA more prepared than this couple?

Just a taste of things that can be.....

Edward and Elaine Brown - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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All that effort to arrest a man and wife.
2 people.
There’s 2.8 MILLION gun owners in VA.
And yes, some will give in with zero resistance.
But a whole bunch of them are going to resist - because this is important!
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Meanwhile in Florida they are trying a different approach. Put it on the ballot and let the people vote.
Doesn't look like they will get the required signatures to make the ballot this time though. But... The people, 2A people, better get their heads in the game.
www.floridatoday.com

'Gun grabbers in Tallahassee,' proposed state amendment targeted by Republican Liberty Caucus

Monday's forum in Cocoa aimed at pushing back against proposed constitutional amendment banning certain semiautomatic weapons
www.floridatoday.com
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They must have researched and determined that they "are there".....


 
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Vamike9 said:
Audio is a bit better here, it seems.
But thanks, Not A Clue for posting.
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He's right. Children want what they want right now, and are prone to getting very angry when they do not get what they want. And we are not just regular children... We hold grudges against bullies, and one day when you are least expecting it, your bicycle may just have a loose handlebar so your next wheelie in front of that hot girl you like may just be the last wheelie you will ever do. So be careful how you tread...
 
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MadDuner said:
All that effort to arrest a man and wife.
2 people.
There’s 2.8 MILLION gun owners in VA.
And yes, some will give in with zero resistance.
But a whole bunch of them are going to resist - because this is important!
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Some might not resist initially. But they will remember the faces of those who came and unlawfully seized their property.

Some people better be ready to check the shadows and watch their backs every minute of their lives.
 
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Clownbuster said:
First, regardless, war is upon you, us, for a very long fucking time now.

As far as the Bundy Ranch bullshit, tell that to these men and their families without a single shot fired:
Greg Burleson - 68 years in federal prison (that's a life sentence) just for showing up.
Jerry Delemus - 7 years in federal prison, just for showing up.
Todd Engel - 14 years in federal prison, just for showing up.

...and over a dozen others across the country drug in and out of court that lost their voting and gun rights, racked up collectively well over $250,000 dollars in bullshit fines and legal fees....makes me sick to my stomach thinking of men stripped of everything by the country they would lay their life down for in a second. Fuck.
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It would be awful if there was a armed march and freed those people.
 
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While the fight gets going and untill the threat is removed by whatever necessary means, protect any excess assets.

Keep what you need to fight,
SEND ALL REMAINING ARMS TO SNUBYS GUN CLEANING SERVICE.

The gun cleaning service would be located out of state in several locations. Guns would be logged in and stored till owner returns.

The va grabbers have no jurisdiction out of state so they can kiss snubys ass and yours too.
 
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Saslaw is a piece of human excrement. This is exactly the kind of arrogance and distain for the citizens of the Commonwealth that is going to going to cause havoc and get folks hurt. The mask is off this trash and I hope everyone is taking notice. Even if you live in another state that is not facing this crap, your time is coming. This is who liberals/democrats are, wherever they live. As Tyler Perry said, "When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM." I was asked earlier in this thread what is different this time. Well, here it is. The democrats in the state are no longer representatives, they are rulers--or so they believe. Have no doubt, they believe it. This is what causes me to believe they will pass all of these "s__t" laws and will attempt to enforce them. The question is: What will we do? I thank more citizens are waking up. Gun owners are either on board or will soon have to chose a side. What percentage of the general population will recognize the threat to our freedoms and join? I don't know.
 
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Personally I'd be royally pissed off if I was Virginia state police.

They will be asked to assist who ever else, to forcefully remove and disarm, people who never intended to use their weapons in any other way than at the range, competitions and or hunting bambi.

If I was a state officer my only response would be:

"You want me to do what? Fuck you, you do it Governor. These people were peaceful until your dumbass started this shit."
 
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MK20 said:
Incidentally, this is where the middle finger gesture comes from.

It was initially made across the battlefield at their enemies whilst shooting them
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Actually. The English do this:
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I do appreciate your history lesson on how it originated though.

My wife's ugly gesture now makes sense.
 
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TACC said:
I particularly like this idea because it does what they are requesting by having a background check done one everyone, not just gun owners, and also on the illegals that are now getting driver licenses. And most importantly deletes any chance of a defacto registry.

Great idea.
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They will just say that it’s not enough of a background check or that fake IDs are too prevalent for this to work.

Not a Clue said:
I keep telling anyone that will listen, they are going to pass every law they have proposed. People keep telling me that I'm nuts, that'll never happen. The fight the people have waged is the largest fight against governmental overreach I've ever seen in my lifetime. It's impressive as hell. It's impressive to see 1000's of people show up to meetings that normally had 20 people. It's impressive to see 100's and 100's of people stand in the cold rain for hours just to hear the outcome from some board of supervisor meetings. It's impressive to me that no matter how short of notice given, 1000's of people show to, trying to hold the representatives accountable. It really does give you faith that we can accomplish anything if we stand together.

Then you get kicked square in the nuts when they ignore every single one of you.

For everyone one anti-gun person showing up, 200-300 2A Freedom Fighters show up, yet are going to be ignored.

I suspect there will be more than 10,000 people on the Lobby Day on the 20th and I suspect it won't change one single vote or the wording on one single bill. As Saslaw shows, they just don't give a shit what we do or what we think.
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That’s exactly why the current tactics will never work. Someone, some group is going to have to forcibly remove these people from office. In reality, it should be their peers or some version of LE, under what law I don’t know but that would be the most peaceable way.

j-huskey said:
^^ you are correct, sad, but true.
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Indeed.

MadDuner said:
I don’t think they understand the peril they put both sides of the equation into. This isn’t going away unless they stop it. Attempts at enforcement will mean casualties on both sides - while the politicians hide behind their security details. They are doing this because they want to, and because they think they can.....regardless of cost in human lives. This attack on every American’s Constitutional Rights will most likely hit closer to home than they think it will.

It’s not like people haven’t attempted to explain it to them....
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They don’t care and I suspect like many that nothing is really going to happen. The laws will go in place and what is outlawed will go into hiding.

OldSalty said:
I agree and there are many ways it can and will play out. I was merely making a point that IMO should shtf, it is going to attract people.

I honestly do not think and I pray it will come to that.

Another angle is using financial pressure. Something I have not seen written about nor discussed.

Not sure what that would look like and would take massive organization both within and out of state...

Hit the pocketbooks. The left is pretty good at this...
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I’d say use every resource available, at once, hit them hard and hit them fast. Going to take some planning tho.

Do-nothing said:
Saslaw is a piece of human excrement. This is exactly the kind of arrogance and distain for the citizens of the Commonwealth that is going to going to cause havoc and get folks hurt. The mask is off this trash and I hope everyone is taking notice. Even if you live in another state that is not facing this crap, your time is coming. This is who liberals/democrats are, wherever they live. As Tyler Perry said, "When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM." I was asked earlier in this thread what is different this time. Well, here it is. The democrats in the state are no longer representatives, they are rulers--or so they believe. Have no doubt, they believe it. This is what causes me to believe they will pass all of these "s__t" laws and will attempt to enforce them. The question is: What will we do? I thank more citizens are waking up. Gun owners are either on board or will soon have to chose a side. What percentage of the general population will recognize the threat to our freedoms and join? I don't know.
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Yes sir, see above. It’s the only way. They really do consider themselves rulers and are clearly not listening. I hope y’all set the example.
 
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Snuby642 said:
While the fight gets going and untill the threat is removed by whatever necessary means, protect any excess assets.

Keep what you need to fight,
SEND ALL REMAINING ARMS TO SNUBYS GUN CLEANING SERVICE.

The gun cleaning service would be located out of state in several locations. Guns would be logged in and stored till owner returns.

The va grabbers have no jurisdiction out of state so they can kiss snubys ass and yours too.
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There is a bit of brilliance to this, especially if some newly appointed "felon" (due to the new laws passed beyond his control) has their door kicked down and rights violated only for the State to discover that the dangerous weapons of mass destruction don't exist...
 
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3% is 84,000 resistors.

The question is:
When the enforcement team kicks in the first 2 or 3 doors and murders everyone in the house.... does the populace become enraged over it, take to the streets and make it stop?

Or do they roll over like every other population did - right before wholesale exterminations began and millions died at the hands of their own government because they were unarmed and let it happen.
 
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Long Range 338 said:
There is a bit of brilliance to this, especially if some newly appointed "felon" (due to the new laws passed beyond his control) has their door kicked down and rights violated only for the State to discover that the dangerous weapons of mass destruction don't exist...
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The real question is whether they murder his entire family first - then plant said illegal items?
We’re talking about hired zealots here, not rank and file LEOs.

How did it work out for Randy Weaver?
That is exactly what’s coming.
 
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Find 2a guys to start cutting off services to the miscreants.

Water, electricity, cable, internet, trash service, everything, to all of them all at once.

Maybe 100 "pokey man" players jam thier street every day and have vehicles with problems so thier f-ing kids can't even get to school or get groceries or get to work on time.

Time to get dirty.
 
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MadDuner said:
The real question is whether they murder his entire family first - then plant said illegal items?
We’re talking about hired zealots here, not rank and file LEOs.

How did it work out for Randy Weaver?
That is exactly what’s coming.
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Tit for tat...

One of ours gets killed, one of them starts their car one morning and a fast moving fire engulfs the vehicle with the assfucker still inside...
 
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The leftists are convinced that there are only 8 or 10 people that object to their agenda...... and that these gun owners will just go away if they are ignored.

I believe they are mistaken, as well as insane!
 
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Longshot231 said:
There is nothing "civil" about a civil war.
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Exactly. Make every peaceful and productive citizen into a felon with the stroke of a pen and make them realize that they have nothing to lose anymore...

If civilization is only 9 meals deep, anarchy is even less.

These motherfuckers REALLY do not know just how close to the burning stove that they are playing. And they are not going to be able to pull back from it once their clothing catches.

 
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