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Rifle Scopes Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

#52
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hibc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What state are you in? </div></div>

Colorado.
 
#55
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

So your honest opinion Frank. I have a Luppy Vari-x 3 3.5x10 LR/T that shows its age. It works great but the clarity on the glass doesn't go edge to edge. Thats not what really has me wanting to trade it but for the Mil/Mil. Is this something you would consider a trade down/even/ or up.

Thanks.
 
#56
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So your honest opinion Frank. I have a Luppy Vari-x 3 3.5x10 LR/T that shows its age. It works great but the clarity on the glass doesn't go edge to edge. Thats not what really has me wanting to trade it but for the Mil/Mil. Is this something you would consider a trade down/even/ or up.

Thanks.</div></div> "flyboy",

IMHO: All for new hardware, but I'd call Leupold first & send it back for an inspection if you have quality issues. Leupold has always been GTG w/ CS.

Have a great one
 
#58
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Thanks guys. I don't think the glass is something they would consider a defect, its just not clear. Its suffers from sherical abbrasion (sp?) for about the outter 5-10% of the glass. Again nothing that really bothers me. Im just looking for Mil/Mil.

Thanks again Frank for the review.
 
#59
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Would the new (mil/mil)SS 3-9x42 be alright on a .308? I'm definitely going to get either that one or the 10x42HD, but I like the idea of the variable power option considering that it's now offered in the mil/mil configuration - just don't want to regret being "underpowered" if I have the ability to shoot past 500yds. What are your thoughts? I know from this video review by lowlight, that he prefers the 10x42 on the bolt, but I'd like some additional feedback before pulling the trigger on one of these two optics.
 
#60
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

I guess it depends on your intended use. If both close and long range targets are on the menu then the variable is the way to go. If hunting with the optic then variable has an edge again. If however it's a range toy only then I would think the 10x would suit best. I have the variable on my .308 bolt gun, no problems making hits @500m and could not be happier with the scope combo for my bolt gun.

It's all down to intended use.

Rath
 
#61
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splatroll,

Ditto what Rath said. I have mine on a bolt 308, and it works just fine. The difference between a 3-9x and 10x in terms of visual acuity due to 1x more power is certainly small.

However, I do think the 10x HD has better glass, and being a fixed power, with less elements inside, it should be clearer still, even if the glass was identical.

But a variable that goes down to 3x can be useful in hunting, and at close quarters, if not in all tactical situations. You got to give up something to get something. No free lunches in the optics world....

Bob
 
#62
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No free lunches in the optics world.</div></div>

Until March (or anyone really) brings out a true 1-10x24 in mil/mil illuminated bomb proof reliable scope....I'll keep dreaming!

Rath
 
#63
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Be careful what you wish for.
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#64
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Be careful what you wish for.
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</div></div>

Do not tease!
 
#65
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rath</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No free lunches in the optics world.</div></div>

Until March (or anyone really) brings out a true 1-10x24 in mil/mil illuminated bomb proof reliable scope....I'll keep dreaming!

Rath </div></div>

As long as the 1X is a true 1X it will be a dream come true
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#68
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I'd be all over the variable if it had alittle more power, but I do understand the original intent and designe of the 3x9. I'm just waiting for the 4x14 or something along those lines. But for now I'm going 10x
 
#69
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Be careful what you wish for.
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</div></div>

Ok wise-guy
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I'll be first to throw my guess at Vortex or Nightforce for this one! If it's on the horizon it's going to be unbelievable, a true multi-purpose scope...wow

Rath
 
#74
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

Initial impressions of my new Super Sniper 10X42 HD

Note: I have not mounted this scope on a rifle yet as the rifle it's going on still has no barrel.

As expected:
- Decent glass - it is crisp and clear edge to edge. Really!
- Compact size
- Solid/rugged feel

Not as expected:
- The metal on metal (turret) clicks are not as crisp as I thought they would be and they are not very audible.
- The sunshade that comes on the scope is quite ample while still retaining a compact scope size overall. Though it is only about 1.5", the smaller objective helps a bit in this area. I ordered an extra sunshade but I don't think I will be using it.
- Unless you have some really bad eyes there is a pretty big gap with exposed threads behind the parallax adjustment allowing for the possibility of collecting some funk in adverse conditions/circumstances.

Bottom line for me is that this scope will compliment the rifle it is going on, the theme of which is for a rugged, dependable, user friendly, and consistently accurate rifle/scope combo. This scope is fairly compact, fairly lightweight, and it's simple and solid design should should hopefully stand up to some rigorous use.

As a side note, my Falcon Menace has crisper, more audible clicks (after a Gun Butter tune up) than my SS HD however, I did not buy this scope as a jack-off aide. I expect this characteristic will have no impact on the functionality of this scope and am confident that the turret design will prove to be durable and consistent.

It could be that my new SS HD could be a little dry. Maybe a little lubricant would have a positive effect?

 
#75
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Considering the advantages associated with going to a mil-dot scope with mil adjustments, especially for people new shooters not used to running mil-dots, I was wondering if it is possible to upgrade through SuperSniper, the original SS 10x42M to a mil/mil configuration such as the new "HD" version by changing out the turrets (or internals) with specific milliradian SS ones that are found on the new HD scope? I suspect not, but was wondering anyhow.

Even if this was an available upgrade, it would probably cost dearly, so maybe a guy is better off just getting the new "HD" version then ~ just a thought..
 
#76
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The New SS 10x42 is a completely different scope made in a different factory and has no common parts so I'd suggest a new scope is the only option but I'm sure someone from SWFA may chime in.

Rath
 
#79
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Got mine today. Man this thing is nice for the price! SWFA is a great company to do business with. I had a very good business experience with them and will be recommending them to everyone I know that has anything to do with optics.

Thanks SWFA!
 
#82
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeffersonv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I
Not as expected:
- The metal on metal (turret) clicks are not as crisp as I thought they would be and they are not very audible.
-

</div></div>

Mine got better after I ran them up and down a lot. Had to do that with my original SS as well.
 
#83
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Got one of these on the way to try out. If I like it, my LR/T 3.5-10x40 M2 TMR FDE is going on the chopping block.

Leupold needs to get with the friggin' program.
 
#85
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The new turret design looks good!
I never understood why scopes were built with set-screws on turrets. They are a pain to zero and there is more of a chance of bunging up the shaft.
I only ever had one scope with them, not a SS, and hated it.

The splined shaft and single screw with o-ring is so much nicer.
Good job, SWFA!
 
#88
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Be careful what you wish for.
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</div></div>

How about a 4-16?
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#89
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The reason the 20x cost less, is supply and demand. It has the same rock solid internals as the regular 10x, but because of its magnification, it has a limited f.o.v., and its low-light ability is also not so good.
 
#90
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Just took my 3-9 SS out to zero and give it a quick once-over. It's great! Glass is as good or better then my Leupold. Tracks perfectly.
 
#91
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The New SS 10x42 is a completely different scope made in a different factory and has no common parts so I'd suggest a new scope is the only option but I'm sure someone from SWFA may chime in.

Rath </div></div>

So, will the older SS scopes still be available, or has this new scope design and factory replaced them?
 
#92
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

I took a ride down to SWFA a couple weeks ago and got my hands on these new scopes. Very nice. Clear, great feel. Great price too.

The 3-9x42 is on my Xmas list, and will be going on my GAP Rock. I think it will be good to learn on.

The review helped a lot also.
 
#93
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

I'm very impressed with it! The glass on the SS is actually better than my Leupold, and you can't beat Mil/Mil. Leupold needs to get on the ball and offer properly regulated mRad turrets. The only thing the SS is lacking is parallax adjustment and illumination, but I don't think I'll miss those, especially for the money. ($600!!!)

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I bore-sighted and fired one round, then used the reticle to adjust and fired this group. .308Win Winchester 168g Supreme Match @ 100yds. 36degF, overcast, no value wind.

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Here's the target I used to check tracking. The black dots are 1mRads (3.6") apart at 100yds, grey dots are 0.5mRads. Here's how I did it:

Shot #1: Held center dot of the left target.
Shot #2: Held bottom dot of the left target, dialed up 1mRad (10 clicks).
Shot #3: Held same and dialed up another 1mRad.
Shot #4: Held same, dialed back down 1mRad and left 2mRads. (meant to dial right) Ooops!
Shot #5: Held same, dialed right 4mrads.
Shot #6: Held center dot of the left target, centered turrets.


web.jpg
 
#95
Re: Video Review - SWFA Super Snipers

I went down to Red Oak last week and picked mine up. I haven't mounted it yet but the clarity is impressive.
 
#96
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sgtlmj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm very impressed with it! The glass on the SS is actually better than my Leupold, and you can't beat Mil/Mil. Leupold needs to get on the ball and offer properly regulated mRad turrets. The only thing the SS is lacking is parallax adjustment and illumination, but I don't think I'll miss those, especially for the money. ($600!!!)

web.jpg


I bore-sighted and fired one round, then used the reticle to adjust and fired this group. .308Win Winchester 168g Supreme Match @ 100yds. 36degF, overcast, no value wind.

IMG_2539.jpg



Here's the target I used to check tracking. The black dots are 1mRads (3.6") apart at 100yds, grey dots are 0.5mRads. Here's how I did it:

Shot #1: Held center dot of the left target.
Shot #2: Held bottom dot of the left target, dialed up 1mRad (10 clicks).
Shot #3: Held same and dialed up another 1mRad.
Shot #4: Held same, dialed back down 1mRad and left 2mRads. (meant to dial right) Ooops!
Shot #5: Held same, dialed right 4mrads.
Shot #6: Held center dot of the left target, centered turrets.


web.jpg
</div></div>

On a side note, where did you get that dot drill?
 
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