well done mate, turned out awesome! thanks for the replySako is manufacturing a limited edition of numbered Sako TRG 22 “Finland 100” sniper rifles with white camouflage, inspired by Finland’s 100-year anniversary. This jubilee model is a true collector’s item.
The TRG 22 “Finland 100” jubilee model is offered in .308 Win caliber. The white snow camouflage colouring of the stock and barrelled action of this real collector’s item reflects the severity of the Finnish winter, and, also pays homage to the heroes of the Winter War.
The Sako TRG 22 “Finland 100” sniper rifle has the text “Finland 100”, and the gun’s serial number is laser-engraved on its frame. The rifle is packaged in a carry case with a jubilee knife with the same engravings as the rifle itself. The jubilee model also comes with two magazines, bipod, muzzle brake and removable open sights.
Retail Price 6,800 Euro's
Well $7000 is really too much for a stock TRG 22 with a custom paint job and special engraving. But, I really like the look of the rifle and had to have one. So I built my own. I actually ended up not saving that much and half way into the build found one for sale for $5200. I still came out at less than that, but with all the accessories and the gun case, two magazines ($400 right there), bipod (another $500) and knife it comes with...$5200 isn't that bad a price (it's on sale on GB). Anyway, my gun flat out shoots. Shown is a 100yd 5 shot group measuring about .23 MOA. Other groups were comparable shooting handloads.
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Vintage Sniper Rifle Picture Thread
- Thread starter Ledzep
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Man I just love going back on this thread and seeing all the pics and reading all the histories of what people know on here.
Here's a group picture of some replica vintage US semi-auto sniper rifles from the 1950s-1960s- all of which have offset scopes (to the left side of rifle). Top two are considered US Army rifles, and bottom rifle is a USMC variant.
Top: Vietnam era replica M14 sniper with AWC mount and M84 (2.2X) scope (circa 1967-68 era)
Middle: M1D Garand with 1" USGI mount and Weaver 4x scope (circa 1964-65) (w/ CMP paperwork)
Bottom: M1C Garand (aka "USMC M1952 sniper rifle") with G&H mount and Kollmorgen MC-1 scope (4X) (circa 1953-1962) (w/ CMP paperwork)
The bottom two were used with leather cheek pieces, but are not shown. I will try to post some pics of the rifles that superseded these earlier variants from a historical perspective: the XM21/M21 sniper rifles and a product improved Navy "Port Security" (aka 'M25') rifle - in the near future.
Top: Vietnam era replica M14 sniper with AWC mount and M84 (2.2X) scope (circa 1967-68 era)
Middle: M1D Garand with 1" USGI mount and Weaver 4x scope (circa 1964-65) (w/ CMP paperwork)
Bottom: M1C Garand (aka "USMC M1952 sniper rifle") with G&H mount and Kollmorgen MC-1 scope (4X) (circa 1953-1962) (w/ CMP paperwork)
The bottom two were used with leather cheek pieces, but are not shown. I will try to post some pics of the rifles that superseded these earlier variants from a historical perspective: the XM21/M21 sniper rifles and a product improved Navy "Port Security" (aka 'M25') rifle - in the near future.
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For anyone interested, here's another group picture of some replica vintage US semi-auto sniper rifles from 1969- to the mid-1990s era. The bottom two replicas are considered US Army sniper rifles, and top rifle is a Navy 'Product Improved' M21. Its original designatation was 'Physical Security Sniper Rifle" but most folks call it an 'M14 Port Security rifle' as they are often associated with port security/DM type missions.
Top: Replica Navy M14 Physical Security Sniper w/ 1993 dated USN heavy barrel, and the old Bausch & Lomb 10X tactical scope (circa 1990s era). Note: the added-on cheek piece is not 'period correct,' but I added it for ergonomic reasons. In the military, US Navy SEALS and others would simply tape some hard foam to the buttstock with some heavy-duty "100 mph" OD green or perhaps black duct tape. Historically speaking, Approximately 300 were made back in 1989-1990, and according to Peter Senich's' book, they were the "weapon of choice" for US Navy SEALs during 1991's Operation Desert Storm.
Middle: Replica M21 w/ 1983 dated General Dynamics medium weight barrel and ART II 3-9X scope. (1982 to early/mid-1990s era). Historically speaking, it is unclear how many M21s the US Army had in this configuration, but they received 1275 of these scopes in December 1981, so presumably they had around 1200 of these rifles in this configuration (note: more ART II scopes may have been ordered in the early 1980s, but documentation is lacking).
Bottom: Replica XM21 w/ /SAI commercial standard weight NM barrel and AR TEL 3-9X scope (circa 1969 to early 1980s era). Historically speaking, somewhere between 1400 and up to 1600 XM21 rifles were authorized to be built during the Vietnam War, but its unclear exactly how many where made. (Serial # of my scope is 1296, and I have seen serial #s in the upper 13XXs, but they could go into the 14XXs or higher,).
Speaking of scopes and scope mounts, the 3rd picture shows the evolution of the scope mounting system on the M21 type rifles:
Bottom XM21 rifle has a single attachment point and was prone to loosening during use. (I use a black pen to mark the 12 o'clock position on the knobs - so I can see if the screw is starting to back out - got that tip from a former US Army sniper who used an M21 in mid-1980s).
Middle M21 rifle has a two-attachment point system that was also threaded into the clip guide, and was more robust that the original Vietnam era mount.
Top Navy rifle has a three-attachment point Brookfield Precision Tool (BPT) scope mount that also has a threaded screw that rests against the front/top face of the receiver. The 3-point system was a big improvement in rigidity and is commonly used today on M1A mounts.
Lastly, I have a pending XM25 replica that is getting bedded with the unique BPT stock liner. It will have a forest camo McMillan stock, a 1990 dated Leupold M3A 10x scope, a medium weight barrel, and will represent a late 1980s/early 1990s era US Army Special Forces sniper rifle developed at 10th SFG at Ft Devens, MA. It will look similar to the last picture which was taken in February 1991, but without the sound suppressor set-up. Only 250 of the BPT stock liners were made back in the late 1980s, and I have read that only about 200 of the XM25 rifles were built, but documentation is lacking. I'll post a picture of it when it comes back from the builder.
(Note: Some people call fiberglass-stocked Navy precision rifles "M25" rifles, but the Navy never used that nomenclature. The 'M25' designation is more a of US Army term, but the rifles were never officially adopted. The XM25s and M25s were sort-of custom/low-volume rifles for Special Forces, mostly the 10th SFG and possibly some 5th SFG as well - at least to the best of my knowledge.)
Anyhow, these 3 replicas of vintage M14-based sniper rifles show the evolution of this platform from the late 1960s to the mid-1990s era.
Top: Replica Navy M14 Physical Security Sniper w/ 1993 dated USN heavy barrel, and the old Bausch & Lomb 10X tactical scope (circa 1990s era). Note: the added-on cheek piece is not 'period correct,' but I added it for ergonomic reasons. In the military, US Navy SEALS and others would simply tape some hard foam to the buttstock with some heavy-duty "100 mph" OD green or perhaps black duct tape. Historically speaking, Approximately 300 were made back in 1989-1990, and according to Peter Senich's' book, they were the "weapon of choice" for US Navy SEALs during 1991's Operation Desert Storm.
Middle: Replica M21 w/ 1983 dated General Dynamics medium weight barrel and ART II 3-9X scope. (1982 to early/mid-1990s era). Historically speaking, it is unclear how many M21s the US Army had in this configuration, but they received 1275 of these scopes in December 1981, so presumably they had around 1200 of these rifles in this configuration (note: more ART II scopes may have been ordered in the early 1980s, but documentation is lacking).
Bottom: Replica XM21 w/ /SAI commercial standard weight NM barrel and AR TEL 3-9X scope (circa 1969 to early 1980s era). Historically speaking, somewhere between 1400 and up to 1600 XM21 rifles were authorized to be built during the Vietnam War, but its unclear exactly how many where made. (Serial # of my scope is 1296, and I have seen serial #s in the upper 13XXs, but they could go into the 14XXs or higher,).
Speaking of scopes and scope mounts, the 3rd picture shows the evolution of the scope mounting system on the M21 type rifles:
Bottom XM21 rifle has a single attachment point and was prone to loosening during use. (I use a black pen to mark the 12 o'clock position on the knobs - so I can see if the screw is starting to back out - got that tip from a former US Army sniper who used an M21 in mid-1980s).
Middle M21 rifle has a two-attachment point system that was also threaded into the clip guide, and was more robust that the original Vietnam era mount.
Top Navy rifle has a three-attachment point Brookfield Precision Tool (BPT) scope mount that also has a threaded screw that rests against the front/top face of the receiver. The 3-point system was a big improvement in rigidity and is commonly used today on M1A mounts.
Lastly, I have a pending XM25 replica that is getting bedded with the unique BPT stock liner. It will have a forest camo McMillan stock, a 1990 dated Leupold M3A 10x scope, a medium weight barrel, and will represent a late 1980s/early 1990s era US Army Special Forces sniper rifle developed at 10th SFG at Ft Devens, MA. It will look similar to the last picture which was taken in February 1991, but without the sound suppressor set-up. Only 250 of the BPT stock liners were made back in the late 1980s, and I have read that only about 200 of the XM25 rifles were built, but documentation is lacking. I'll post a picture of it when it comes back from the builder.
(Note: Some people call fiberglass-stocked Navy precision rifles "M25" rifles, but the Navy never used that nomenclature. The 'M25' designation is more a of US Army term, but the rifles were never officially adopted. The XM25s and M25s were sort-of custom/low-volume rifles for Special Forces, mostly the 10th SFG and possibly some 5th SFG as well - at least to the best of my knowledge.)
Anyhow, these 3 replicas of vintage M14-based sniper rifles show the evolution of this platform from the late 1960s to the mid-1990s era.
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Couple my babies
1903A4 Z prefix with scant stock and M84
M1D with M84 (CMP)
1903 that finally has USMC 8x on it (not in pic)
1903A4 with C stock and M73B1.
3 diff M1/21/25 return stocks. Still building them up.
Regards
DT
1903A4 Z prefix with scant stock and M84
M1D with M84 (CMP)
1903 that finally has USMC 8x on it (not in pic)
1903A4 with C stock and M73B1.
3 diff M1/21/25 return stocks. Still building them up.
Regards
DT
Wow, that's a lot of smear stocks(!) I see three M40A1 and three M14 stocks (!) Very nice collection of vintage rifles, including the rare K31/43.
Your M24R looks very similar to mine re paint/patina - but I still need to find a pre-2004 sunshade for my 1989 dated M3A scope. (If anybody has a spare one, its worth $50 to me...)
Thanks again for the pics, that's a nice collection.
Your M24R looks very similar to mine re paint/patina - but I still need to find a pre-2004 sunshade for my 1989 dated M3A scope. (If anybody has a spare one, its worth $50 to me...)
Thanks again for the pics, that's a nice collection.
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I just picked up this K-31 former competition rifle:
I took this to the range Sunday. I checked it for zero and it was right on. I then proceeded to get hits at 100, 200, 300 and 400 yds. Did this all in one box of 20 rounds.
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As you can see at least one of the former owners/caretakers had quite a bit of success with this rifle. The sear is so polished on this that as you take up the first stage you release the firing pin almost without noticing it.
If anybody wants I will get pics of any of the comp stamps. Maybe @zfk55 could help interpret?
@padom?
I took this to the range Sunday. I checked it for zero and it was right on. I then proceeded to get hits at 100, 200, 300 and 400 yds. Did this all in one box of 20 rounds.
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As you can see at least one of the former owners/caretakers had quite a bit of success with this rifle. The sear is so polished on this that as you take up the first stage you release the firing pin almost without noticing it.
If anybody wants I will get pics of any of the comp stamps. Maybe @zfk55 could help interpret?
@padom?
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Neither pic are snipers but old fun rifles nonetheless. It's fun to take them all out with Buddies to the range and just compare everyone's opinions. I would like to put a scout scope on the Yugo Mauser. I'm considering the Burris 2 to 7. What do you guys think? It's probably crap but I don't want to spend a lot of money.
Any of the Yugoslav 48 series are actually excellent rifles. They sort of fell into the reputation that other Yugos got as with the number of programs to modify different Mausers to fit one standard didn’t work so well. ALL of the Yugos Ive shot over the years shot well. But, the M48’s shot the best. Uniformity was really more the issue.
This may not be what you want to hear but I would leave then ‘as is’ and shoot them that way. If you do a “scout scope” on the Yugo just make sure you only remove the rear sight and put it where you can put it back again. DON’T make permanent changes to the rifle.
I can translate your stickers for you. Here are some of mine.
Swiss 1911 with Wyss sights
swiss 1911 Eidg. short for "Eidgenossisches" (Eidgenossisches...literally "joiners", what the swiss call themselves)
1911, 5 shots ,100yds, Iron Sights, GP11
Feinwerkbau 2000 and Diana 160
Tanner 300m
Zurich Albisgutli...a beautiful range where I shot in the Internationale Matchwoche in '81 and '82
Grunig Super 200
Walthr GX-1, formerly owned by World Champion David Kimes and now my main 3 position rifle.
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I should have posted these on this thread instead of starting a new one.
Here’s the 1916 Swede I picked up at the same time:
It also hit at 100-400 within the first box. I took it out two days ago and hit each distance with one shot each.
Then, just to prove I get too cocky I missed my fifth shot out at 400. Shot again twice and hit both times. But my ego had already suffered the damage.?
It also hit at 100-400 within the first box. I took it out two days ago and hit each distance with one shot each.
Then, just to prove I get too cocky I missed my fifth shot out at 400. Shot again twice and hit both times. But my ego had already suffered the damage.?
so many nice guns still not in my collection , so so many still left to try and get . come on lucky lotto ticket .. nice fire arms all .
Just read you've got 3! Bit greedy isn't it! Lol, they sell for $10-12000 AUD here in Oz. That's if they ever come up for sale! Good score mate!zfk55 Swiss Snipers ......... only 4001 made beginning in 1954.
I have 3.
Yes it is. We’ve talked about PSG1’s and variants here before. Nice rifle if you’ve got more, post those up as well.
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It is a LSR mount and I put a 8x zeiss diasta on it. I know it's not period correct or anything but I really wanted the zeiss zeilacht 8x but couldnt get one at the time.
Nice set you have there! Always partial to those Forest Camo MacMillans. Going to glass in the chequering on my ADL and have the colours to do a home job on my M40 replica. It's actually in 30-06 but got the heavy barrel cheap New and started out as an M24 with a long action but hey close enough for me and it shoot 0.6 MOA so I ain't complaining. The woodwork on your Swede looks really nice! Might take to my PEM with a bit of Camo Form just to dress it up for a while!
Thank you! I like to put the camo form on some of mine to help protect it for hunting but also looks cool lol. My favorite by far is still both my 1903s they are amazingly accurate for how old they are. I still cant believe the groups these things put up.
I have a replica 1903 which I've yet to sight in at the range but hoping for accuracy like that! Awesome.
A pleasure to see those at the other side of the pond!
The serial number corresponds to year of manufacture 1943; the carbine has seen the Mobilisation, when at any given moment 1/3 of all men able to hold a rifle were at the border, waiting to welcome the Germans by bits of 11g solid metal at 780 m/s.
Most of the stickers are weapon checks for Cantonal shooting fests; there are 2-3 of them happening every year in different places of the country. These are shooting events running over 3 week-ends in summer, with an average of 4000-5000 participants. There's also a weapon check sticker from the 2010 Aarau federal shooting fest. Federal fests happen every 5 years (there are no cantonal fests these years), and are 20-days events with ~50'000 competitors, and fests they really are! Full-blown temporary villages are built for that -- shops, restaurants, shuttles (military trucks) carrying shooters to and from railway stations and parkings, live music bands, historical flags of regional militia (which are the roots of most modern Swiss shooting clubs), and thousands and thousands of people -- entire families with kids and grandparents -- all cheerful, friendly and armed to the teeth.
One sticker is from the 2017 veterans federal shooting fest in Lausanne (also a yearly event). As a side-note, veterans obviously does not mean war veterans -- it is just an age category for shooting competitions.
There are also several stickers (also weapon checks) of competitions held at Horgen (some 20 km south of Zurich) regional shooting association -- a dozen local shooting ranges / clubs competing together (about a thousand competitive shooters).
And if you check the Web site of BSV-Horgen, the results tables list a guy called Bruno Kaufmann, born in 1942, who still shoots there. Now he has switched to Stgw 57 (I would guess it becomes hard to shoot freehand), but he still does pretty well, especially at almost 80 years of age.
A true piece of history you have there.
Thanks so much for the reply. I took the rifle to a local shoot here to show a few people. One of them suggested I show a guy who was shooting there. I was going to show this guy until I started describing how the trigger had been worked over. He started to go on about how the trigger wasn’t original and couldn’t be used for competition. Really? When he said, “ If I’m gonna buy this rifle...” WHOA!! “I didn’t offer to sell it!”, I said. At that point I decided not to even show him.
K31 trigger assemblies are tricky. Very reliable "out of the box", but not exactly intuitive for any trigger pull enhancement jobs. Most shooters prefer not to touch them (since if you don't know what you're doing -- you're 100% up for part replacement). "Don't touch the K31 trigger" is common wisdom in our parts.
The wisdom is not true. The expertise to do a proper trigger job on a K31 becomes hard to come by, but it is still there.
In this case, considering the previous owner's background, I would think yours is one of them rare cases of things done right.
@buffalowinter - whats your favorite target rifle out of the ones you own, rimfire and center fire, respectively?
Swiss hammerli 7.5x55
Walther GX-1 .22lr
Runners-up
Grunig and Elmiger .308
IDF Mauser 66SP w/ Fero ZF-1
Walther GX-1 .22lr
Runners-up
Grunig and Elmiger .308
IDF Mauser 66SP w/ Fero ZF-1
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Is that a ZF69 on the bench. I'd love to get my hands on one of those but can't get one sent from the US and they cost a fortune here in Australia.
I tried parting with it but unfortunately nobody wanted to give it a new home. 
Guess it will stay with me a bit longer.
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I think the Swede m41 ammo is pretty much match grade and to most people's horror is Std. ammo and not 'Sniper' ammo just because it has m41 in the title. It's the year of adoption which happens to be the same year as the m41 sniper rifle.
I think I might've ask ed before @buffalowinter .. but what is the square block at the front of the action for? I see it on every Swiss 300M-style target rifle..
There is no square block on the front of the 1911. Some swiss hammerli and tanner rifle have a large square bedding block on the barrel.
Oh ok, so its a bedding block.. makes sense. Wasn't sure if it was possibly something like the L-shaped recoil lug used on Mk. 13's..
Im going to have to show your post to my friends and family.
About 10 years ago I went to a shooting fair in California and you could rent an Uzi with red dot to shoot at popper targets at various ranges.
I purchased 2 magazines of ammo to shoot through it and right as Im ending the second mag I hear a booming voice from behind me saying "that looks like fun".
I instantly recognized the voice. Turned around and it was James Earl Jones.
After I was out of the shooting lane I had a huge smile and came outside of the range and spoke with him for a few minutes-he told me he was a long time shooter and collector.
I told friends and family about it for weeks and nobody believed me.
Maybe your post will help.
