VLD chamfer tool necessary?
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Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
I have never seen jacket deformation using the standard tool. I shoot mostly vlds!
I have never seen jacket deformation using the standard tool. I shoot mostly vlds!
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
Might make a difference, but I use the standard Forester unit with VLD's checking very closely for shaved jackets, etc (even pulled bullets to double-check) as long as I have everything lined up and seat slowly/smoothly, never felt the need for a VLD chamfer.
Maybe a solution looking for a problem.
Might make a difference, but I use the standard Forester unit with VLD's checking very closely for shaved jackets, etc (even pulled bullets to double-check) as long as I have everything lined up and seat slowly/smoothly, never felt the need for a VLD chamfer.
Maybe a solution looking for a problem.
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I use the Lyman VLD. When I do have to pull bullets, there is not a mark on them. Not sure if there would be marks if I use the standard one though.
I use the Lyman VLD. When I do have to pull bullets, there is not a mark on them. Not sure if there would be marks if I use the standard one though.
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
I've used both for years, and I use the VLD angle exclusively now. I never had a problem with the standard chamfer, but the VLD with it's steeper angle has to be a little easier on a thin target jacket. I sleep better at night anyway...
Chops
I've used both for years, and I use the VLD angle exclusively now. I never had a problem with the standard chamfer, but the VLD with it's steeper angle has to be a little easier on a thin target jacket. I sleep better at night anyway...
Chops
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
I use a VLD on an RCBS trimmate center. The standard chamfer tool on the trim mate blows (at least the one that came on mine did). Subsequently in pursuit of concentric chamfering I got an LE Wilson VLD chamfer tool that fits in the Wilson case trimmer. Works great. Much better than the trimmate for concentricity. However it works too good and I over chamfered a few .338LM cases and had microthin case mouths that would flake with thumbnail pressure. So If you get a VLD, just understand that the steeper angle can let you over chamfer much more quickly than a standard chamfer angle.
madd0c
I use a VLD on an RCBS trimmate center. The standard chamfer tool on the trim mate blows (at least the one that came on mine did). Subsequently in pursuit of concentric chamfering I got an LE Wilson VLD chamfer tool that fits in the Wilson case trimmer. Works great. Much better than the trimmate for concentricity. However it works too good and I over chamfered a few .338LM cases and had microthin case mouths that would flake with thumbnail pressure. So If you get a VLD, just understand that the steeper angle can let you over chamfer much more quickly than a standard chamfer angle.
madd0c
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: madd0c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use a VLD on an RCBS trimmate center. The standard chamfer tool on the trim mate blows (at least the one that came on mine did). Subsequently in pursuit of concentric chamfering I got an LE Wilson VLD chamfer tool that fits in the Wilson case trimmer. Works great. Much better than the trimmate for concentricity. However it works too good and I over chamfered a few .338LM cases and had microthin case mouths that would flake with thumbnail pressure. So If you get a VLD, just understand that the steeper angle can let you over chamfer much more quickly than a standard chamfer angle.
madd0c </div></div>
I chuck mine in my drill on a rod extension. I just let them have a kiss of the case mouth. The RCBS std. profile chamfer, like the hand held ones, aren't as sharply angled and just didn't cut as fast as I wanted.
I'd be a liar if I said it made a huge difference but the bullets do seat easier, especially flat base bullets!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: madd0c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use a VLD on an RCBS trimmate center. The standard chamfer tool on the trim mate blows (at least the one that came on mine did). Subsequently in pursuit of concentric chamfering I got an LE Wilson VLD chamfer tool that fits in the Wilson case trimmer. Works great. Much better than the trimmate for concentricity. However it works too good and I over chamfered a few .338LM cases and had microthin case mouths that would flake with thumbnail pressure. So If you get a VLD, just understand that the steeper angle can let you over chamfer much more quickly than a standard chamfer angle.
madd0c </div></div>
I chuck mine in my drill on a rod extension. I just let them have a kiss of the case mouth. The RCBS std. profile chamfer, like the hand held ones, aren't as sharply angled and just didn't cut as fast as I wanted.
I'd be a liar if I said it made a huge difference but the bullets do seat easier, especially flat base bullets!
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
The VLD tool isnt necessary, however if you have the option to ever purchase one, I would use it over a standard chamfer tool
The VLD tool isnt necessary, however if you have the option to ever purchase one, I would use it over a standard chamfer tool
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
I prefer the VLD chamfer over the standard chamfer angle. The bullet goes into the case mouth a little easier on a FL sized case with a VLD chamfer. Sometimes it will put more pressure from the seating stem on the bullet and score it more. The VLD tool decreases the edge point inside the neck and doesn't make it as sharp as a standard VLD tool. You can feel it when you seat a bullet between the two chamfers. I use a VLD tool on all my brass to avoid shaving the jacket and/or deforming the bullet.
I prefer the VLD chamfer over the standard chamfer angle. The bullet goes into the case mouth a little easier on a FL sized case with a VLD chamfer. Sometimes it will put more pressure from the seating stem on the bullet and score it more. The VLD tool decreases the edge point inside the neck and doesn't make it as sharp as a standard VLD tool. You can feel it when you seat a bullet between the two chamfers. I use a VLD tool on all my brass to avoid shaving the jacket and/or deforming the bullet.
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
Go to ENCO tool supply and get one of their steep angle carbide deburring tools.
Go to ENCO tool supply and get one of their steep angle carbide deburring tools.
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: madd0c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use a VLD on an RCBS trimmate center. The standard chamfer tool on the trim mate blows (at least the one that came on mine did). Subsequently in pursuit of concentric chamfering I got an LE Wilson VLD chamfer tool that fits in the Wilson case trimmer. Works great. Much better than the trimmate for concentricity. However it works too good and I over chamfered a few .338LM cases and had microthin case mouths that would flake with thumbnail pressure. So If you get a VLD, just understand that the steeper angle can let you over chamfer much more quickly than a standard chamfer angle.
madd0c </div></div>
This, I purchased one for my prep center since the one that comes with it kinda blows, was a good buy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: madd0c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use a VLD on an RCBS trimmate center. The standard chamfer tool on the trim mate blows (at least the one that came on mine did). Subsequently in pursuit of concentric chamfering I got an LE Wilson VLD chamfer tool that fits in the Wilson case trimmer. Works great. Much better than the trimmate for concentricity. However it works too good and I over chamfered a few .338LM cases and had microthin case mouths that would flake with thumbnail pressure. So If you get a VLD, just understand that the steeper angle can let you over chamfer much more quickly than a standard chamfer angle.
madd0c </div></div>
This, I purchased one for my prep center since the one that comes with it kinda blows, was a good buy.
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
I use the VLD chamfer and really noticed the seating pressure difference. I just screw it into the RCBS case prep station and give each one a little kiss with the chamfer followed by an inside brush with 000 steel wool to polish it up a little.
I use the VLD chamfer and really noticed the seating pressure difference. I just screw it into the RCBS case prep station and give each one a little kiss with the chamfer followed by an inside brush with 000 steel wool to polish it up a little.
Re: VLD chamfer tool necessary?
+1.... It's the only one I use whether loading VLD's or regular rounds.....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I prefer the VLD chamfer over the standard chamfer angle. The bullet goes into the case mouth a little easier on a FL sized case with a VLD chamfer. Sometimes it will put more pressure from the seating stem on the bullet and score it more. The VLD tool decreases the edge point inside the neck and doesn't make it as sharp as a standard VLD tool. You can feel it when you seat a bullet between the two chamfers. I use a VLD tool on all my brass to avoid shaving the jacket and/or deforming the bullet. </div></div>
+1.... It's the only one I use whether loading VLD's or regular rounds.....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I prefer the VLD chamfer over the standard chamfer angle. The bullet goes into the case mouth a little easier on a FL sized case with a VLD chamfer. Sometimes it will put more pressure from the seating stem on the bullet and score it more. The VLD tool decreases the edge point inside the neck and doesn't make it as sharp as a standard VLD tool. You can feel it when you seat a bullet between the two chamfers. I use a VLD tool on all my brass to avoid shaving the jacket and/or deforming the bullet. </div></div>
