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    I was in my local rip off gun store and overheard a conversation that Vortex is no longer offering a LEO/Mil sales program. I checked Experticity (where I buy all of my optics) and it says unavailable.

    Anyone have any any information on this?

    I sure hope Vortex doesn’t fold under the pressure of the crybabies (certain dealers) who get upset that we get good deals and stop this program. If so I for one will stop looking toward them as a one stop solution and explore other options.
     
    #2
    On December 7th, I got this email from Experticity:
    The Vortex Optics store is closing soon, look for it again in January.
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    The Vortex Optics store will be taking a power nap in mid-December. Look for it to wake up all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in January of next year.

    If you’ve been eyeing a new Vortex Optics scope, red dot or other gear, now’s the time to treat yourself before the store closes this winter.


    Below is smack on the home page of Vortex Optics:

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    Vortex Nation Update: We will not be shipping any product from 12/23/17-1/15/2018 while we implement a new system to better serve you and other customers.
     
    #3
    We sell a ton of Vortex and are very proud that Vortex allows us to offer the Mil/LE discount to our customers. I have heard nothing about them discontinuing the program. If you need anything please let me know. We also offer ours with free shipping and often throw in some Vortex swag aswell. Very happy to help you any time.
     
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    Hmm, I didn’t get that email I guess or I just deleted it without looking. Only about 13k more to go haha.

    My LGS store just sold a guy a MOA Vortex Gen II 4.5x27 for a whopping $2499. He was a local deputy and I butted in and asked the guy behind the counter if he would help him out any. He quickly got angry like they always do and said that Vortex is no longer selling their optics to LEO/Mil at a discounted rate.

     
    #5
    Kadams1563 said:
    I was in my local rip off gun store and overheard a conversation that Vortex is no longer offering a LEO/Mil sales program. I checked Experticity (where I buy all of my optics) and it says unavailable.

    Anyone have any any information on this?

    I sure hope Vortex doesn’t fold under the pressure of the crybabies (certain dealers) who get upset that we get good deals and stop this program. If so I for one will stop looking toward them as a one stop solution and explore other options.
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    Hello,
    We are currently implementing new order management software in order to better serve all of our customers. During this process we are not shipping any orders and have temporarily suspended the experticity store,as BoilerUp mentioned. We will start shipping again on Jan 15. That is all that is happening. There are no changes to the MIL/LE program.

    Best Regards
    Scott
     
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    Kadams1563 said:
    I sure hope Vortex doesn’t fold under the pressure of the crybabies (certain dealers) who get upset that we get good deals and stop this program. If so I for one will stop looking toward them as a one stop solution and explore other options.
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    Wow, hypocrite much? lol

     
    #7
    Scott_at_Vortex said:
    Hello,
    We are currently implementing new order management software in order to better serve all of our customers. During this process we are not shipping any orders and have temporarily suspended the experticity store,as BoilerUp mentioned. We will start shipping again on Jan 15. That is all that is happening. There are no changes to the MIL/LE program.

    Best Regards
    Scott
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    Straight from the horses mouth. Thank you!

     
    #8
    CS95 said:
    Wow, hypocrite much? lol
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    How is that hypocritical? I just usually shop with Vortex first due to their quality in my price range. If I wasn’t able to get something in my price range I would explore other options. If Vortex offers something I need I buy from them first due to their commitment to LEO/MIL AND the shooting community.

    Lately I know they have been under fire from some people griping about their program and they wanted it to end.
     
    #9
    Scott cleared up the rumors, they are implementing new software is all, I'm sure the local dealers are just blowing smoke where the sun don't shine, I can't tell you how many times I get the wrong information from the guys behind the counter. If you want to order something now it might be possible to contact Vortex direct, that is usually what I do. I would find it hard to believe Vortex would stop their program as the company is owned and run by Veteran's and have a high regard for those who've served our country. Even if you haven't served, you have the option of purchasing from one of the reputable Hide dealers here who can usually get you a smoking deal on a Vortex scope, it's always worth calling and asking what is the best deal, and tell them you are a Snipers Hide member and you might just be surprised at how good of a deal you can get.
     
    #10
    There is ALLOT of hate towards Vortex for reasons I don't understand..

    I've had enough of them to say I get what I expect for what they cost in each class, and I'm incredibly thankful they offer a good price to former military guys.

    I see more and more Facebook groups and such bashing the hell out of them taking about 40% failure rates from their "in the know" sources. Then folks talking crap because the military crew gets a better price than the they must all just be overpriced since they can offer better price to them. Then of course half the time it turns out to be info from an Athlon salesman....
     
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    “The Vortex Store will be unavailable until February 1st as Vortex is implementing a new system to better serve you! With that, they are not shipping any product and you are welcome to place your order once the store goes live again. Feel free to call Vortex with any product questions or concerns but they are not accepting any orders either. Thank you for your patience!”
     
    #12
    1) As a retired .mil and current LEO, I appreciate companies that offer discounts.
    2) As a matter of respect and gratitude to those companies, I make it a point to NOT discuss the amount of the discount.
    3) Vortex has always been helpful and responsive. They make a good product, some are better than others, but then again, they are priced accordingly.
     
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    Dude.

    First rule of Experticity is you do not talk about Experticity.

    The second rule of Experticity is...you DO NOT TALK about Experticity.

    As the site (and now Scott) states, the program will be back soon. The language on the site seriously couldn't have been any clearer.

    fdkay said:
    1) As a retired .mil and current LEO, I appreciate companies that offer discounts.
    2) As a matter of respect and gratitude to those companies, I make it a point to NOT discuss the amount of the discount.
    3) Vortex has always been helpful and responsive. They make a good product, some are better than others, but then again, they are priced accordingly.
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    ^ 100% on all of this.



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    Anb618 said:
    Dude.

    First rule of Experticity is you do not talk about Experticity.

    The second rule of Experticity is...you DO NOT TALK about Experticity.

    As the site (and now Scott) states, the program will be back soon. The language on the site seriously couldn't have been any clearer.



    ^ 100% on all of this.



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    I tell people on here all the time to keep the experticity pricing to themselves.
     
    #21
    TheMammoth said:
    ROFL, like the Vortex mil/LEO program is ANY KIND of secret at all.
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    I think he meant because it might spread bad info for people who don't read it. The program is not a secret and never was meant to be one. It's a company looking to give back to public servents.
     
    #23
    Opticsspecialist said:
    We sell a ton of Vortex and are very proud that Vortex allows us to offer the Mil/LE discount to our customers. I have heard nothing about them discontinuing the program. If you need anything please let me know. We also offer ours with free shipping and often throw in some Vortex swag aswell. Very happy to help you any time.
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    Class. Thank you.
     
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    I was really surprised to see a vendor express displeasure with Vortex LEO/Mil program...may as well go kick yourself in the balls while you're at it
     
    #25
    FRISCO41 said:
    Does anyone know if the LEO/MIL program includes firemen/paramedics?
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    I can't speak for other retailers. Vortex has given us permission to use the LE/Mil program for Firefighters and EMS. We really are very happy to help out anyone who qualifies for these. I am the Medical Officer at our Volunteer Fire Department. We have quite a few guys here who are current and former military and law enforcement. We really appreciate those who serve. We appreciate getting the good guy discount and certainly are proud to move this along to you aswell. Thank you all for your service and dedication to our freedoms and way of life.
     
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    Opticsspecialist said:
    I can't speak for other retailers. Vortex has given us permission to use the LE/Mil program for Firefighters and EMS. We really are very happy to help out anyone who qualifies for these. I am the Medical Officer at our Volunteer Fire Department. We have quite a few guys here who are current and former military and law enforcement. We really appreciate those who serve. We appreciate getting the good guy discount and certainly are proud to move this along to you aswell. Thank you all for your service and dedication to our freedoms and way of life.
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    I am getting ready to put in an order for either a gen 1 Razor or a PST II (that's a post for another thread) in a few weeks, but if I order through the Vortex mil program I get bumped to the back of the line so I'd prefer to order through y'all. I don't mind a little waiting since I'm still deployed for a few more months, but I've been reading threads here where guys got their scopes 6-8 months after ordering through Vortex. If I wait that long I'll have likely PCS'd.

    Plus I had a real good experience ordering an Aimpoint Micro T-1 from you guys about 4 years back.

    How do I order with the Vortex mil program through you guys?
     
    #27
    Thunderhorse said:
    I am getting ready to put in an order for either a gen 1 Razor or a PST II (that's a post for another thread) in a few weeks, but if I order through the Vortex mil program I get bumped to the back of the line so I'd prefer to order through y'all. I don't mind a little waiting since I'm still deployed for a few more months, but I've been reading threads here where guys got their scopes 6-8 months after ordering through Vortex. If I wait that long I'll have likely PCS'd.

    Plus I had a real good experience ordering an Aimpoint Micro T-1 from you guys about 4 years back.

    How do I order with the Vortex mil program through you guys?
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    I would suggest you take to messaging and not discuss it further on the open forum. Just click on his avatar and select "start a conversation".
    FWIW, I've ordered from Vortex for agency purchases, it really comes down to whether it is a high demand product or not. As you noted, some stuff comes in quickly, I'm still waiting on a pair of FURY HD rangfinding bino's.
    They are, of course, going to fill the pre-existing orders first.
    If you can swing the extra cash, i would recommend the Gen 1 Razor. The PST II is a dandy scope, but the Razor is better.
     
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    fdkay said:
    I would suggest you take to messaging and not discuss it further on the open forum. Just click on his avatar and select "start a conversation".
    FWIW, I've ordered from Vortex for agency purchases, it really comes down to whether it is a high demand product or not. As you noted, some stuff comes in quickly, I'm still waiting on a pair of FURY HD rangfinding bino's.
    They are, of course, going to fill the pre-existing orders first.
    If you can swing the extra cash, i would recommend the Gen 1 Razor. The PST II is a dandy scope, but the Razor is better.
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    Why the secrecy?
     
    #29
    308pirate said:
    Why the secrecy?
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    Don't think it's about secrecy but a better way to have a discussion between a company and a person wanting to buy something from them. No need for us to be following a bunch of back and forth questions and answers between the two of them and cluttering up the thread.
     
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    Kadams1563 said:
    I was in my local rip off gun store and overheard a conversation that Vortex is no longer offering a LEO/Mil sales program. I checked Experticity (where I buy all of my optics) and it says unavailable.

    Anyone have any any information on this?

    I sure hope Vortex doesn’t fold under the pressure of the crybabies (certain dealers) who get upset that we get good deals and stop this program. If so I for one will stop looking toward them as a one stop solution and explore other options.
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    Just an FYI but there are dealers out there that will do the same pricing any have product in had ready to ship.
     
    #36
    Like others have said their are dealers that will do some pretty good deals for non LE/MIL you just have to call. I have gotten some pretty good deals from a couple vendors on SH all I did was call and say “hey I am interested in X what is the best deal you can do on X” it really is that easy. And thanks to those who have served you deserve whatever discount they can give you!
     
    #40
    Opticsspecialist said:
    We sell a ton of Vortex and are very proud that Vortex allows us to offer the Mil/LE discount to our customers. I have heard nothing about them discontinuing the program. If you need anything please let me know. We also offer ours with free shipping and often throw in some Vortex swag aswell. Very happy to help you any time.
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    Thanks Ben ! I just got too try out the Vortex Razor Gen ii 4.5-27 you sold me good Price and fast shipping. Thanks Again !
     
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