At Cabela’s in Canada it’s under their name for some reason.
https://www.cabelas.ca/product/39395/cabelas-shooting-mat
Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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https://www.cabelas.ca/product/39395/cabelas-shooting-matLooks much nicer than the American version.At Cabela’s in Canada it’s under their name for some reason.
First opportunity to play with my UK built Vudoo'd action rifle , start testing ammunition brands. Unfortunately the rifle's better than me at present re. holding consistent groups at 50 yards, but in saying that Lapua Centre -X seems to be good and the new SK flat nose Match equally so. Will have to use a longer range to set up the tuner, its just bolted on and screwed in a present.
The build concept was a mirror of my 6mm Dasher range rifle so it sits in a Gunwerks Verdict stock. Bartlein barrel, tuned Jewell trigger. Scope's a March 10-60 High Master on the ERATEC mount - who's adjustments match actual POI results
Thoroughly enjoying this rifle.
The build concept was a mirror of my 6mm Dasher range rifle so it sits in a Gunwerks Verdict stock. Bartlein barrel, tuned Jewell trigger. Scope's a March 10-60 High Master on the ERATEC mount - who's adjustments match actual POI results
Thoroughly enjoying this rifle.
Sweet looking outfit. I just ordered my tuner tonight.basically at 50yrds 1 small hole for 10 shot group. Really excited to see what I can get at 100yrd.
I agree 100%. It’s rare these days to have everyone at vudoo with the same attitude. Customer support is outstanding!!! I’m still breaking in rifle. Truly far above the rest.
It don’t get much better on a Tuesday Afternoon than your V22 and a 50 yard KYL Rack and paper to punch. I have a NRL22 Match Saturday. My first PRS Rimfire match Sunday then my first NRLX Match the end of the month at Sweaty Yeti… It’s stacking up to be a fun full month or matches.
These are all 10 round groups of SK Long Range, Rifle Match & Standard+. I just got the Ckye-Pod and absolutely love it.
These are all 10 round groups of SK Long Range, Rifle Match & Standard+. I just got the Ckye-Pod and absolutely love it.
Got the call my gen 3 is at the ffl...and have the mpa stock here waiting...
FINALLY got to join the cool kids' club.
V-360 with 22" MTU barrel
Manners TCS
ZCO 4-20x
Spuhr mount
V-360 with 22" MTU barrel
Manners TCS
ZCO 4-20x
Spuhr mount
Yes! Looks great!!
This is my next setup. Let me know how it balances and what model of spuhr Mount is on it.
Also, I was debating about asking Manners to moving back the bottom about a 1/4 inch since the gap between the grip and the trigger guard is significant..
I asked Manners to do that, and they said that there were some difficulties in doing that. I ended up selling my Manners PRS-TCS.
With no weights on the back, and all 7 weights in the arca rail, and the bipod off the front, the rifle would balance in front of the mag well... and it was hefty.
Hmm, from my inquiry, it's possible to move it .400-.500 back closer to the grip.
I've switched my current LH back to XLR envy from the carbon fiber stock i had and currently working towards building another Lefty one in a stock from manners....
I do enjoy them more heavy
@littlepod speaks the truth! I'd say IF you can get them to adjust that inlet, do it! I just did some messing around with some thin foam that I have. I wear size L gloves & I don't think ¼" is going to hurt you at all... honestly, if they'll do .400" - .500", I'd probably go all the way. I'm using a 6001 Spuhr.
Finally got my 360 put together...only to find out after they sent me a Kukri instead of MTU barrel like I ordered. Not sure if I should bother worrying as it balances fine set up as is.
I spent some time with my new 360 this afternoon after our local PRS match. Running the bolt with the round bolt knob feels a lot like my AI centerfire rifles.
With random boxes of non lot tested Eley, breaking rocks on the backstops from 200-300 yards was easy. Hitting a 6 inch plate at 410 yards was very doable.
After I get a couple hundred more rounds through this it will be time to send it out for lot testing.
The Vudoo staff member down in St George that does the cerrakoating does an outstanding job. One of the best I have seen in a long time.
All in all I am very impressed with the 360. Might give my 2 lug Vudoos to my god daughters. Between them and my 40X repeaters I am knee deep in 22 bolt guns.
With random boxes of non lot tested Eley, breaking rocks on the backstops from 200-300 yards was easy. Hitting a 6 inch plate at 410 yards was very doable.
After I get a couple hundred more rounds through this it will be time to send it out for lot testing.
The Vudoo staff member down in St George that does the cerrakoating does an outstanding job. One of the best I have seen in a long time.
All in all I am very impressed with the 360. Might give my 2 lug Vudoos to my god daughters. Between them and my 40X repeaters I am knee deep in 22 bolt guns.
@Hoser
Glad to hear that about the ceracote job!
I wanted my 360 like my V22 with a stainless barrel and melonited action, no ceracote at all, but total-ceracote is the only way now.
Excited to get mine and compare everything.
Glad to hear that about the ceracote job!
I wanted my 360 like my V22 with a stainless barrel and melonited action, no ceracote at all, but total-ceracote is the only way now.
Excited to get mine and compare everything.
Running into an issue with my 360 where I can't get the bolt in. When I press down on the silver button it doesn't fully retract on the inside. There's maybe 1mm or less that still sticks out on the inside. Am I missing something or just short a few brain cells as it's been driving me insane for the past hour. Should I file it down a bit on the inside?
Edit: On another note the markings on the action read V22. Is that normal? I thought it would read Three 60.
Edit: On another note the markings on the action read V22. Is that normal? I thought it would read Three 60.
Bolt back in action? On my standard Vudoo I just push the bolt in. No need to push the bolt release to reinsert. Is the 360 different due to the three lugs?
About 6 weeks ago I placed an order for a second Vudoo and I am having second thoughts about which action I should get. I use my Gen 1 with a single shot follower to shoot a local bench shilouette match. (The match director requires single shot loading.)
For the new rifle I intended to order a 360 but Joann said that it does not have a single shot follower. I definitely want another repeater and I can do a work around for the 360 on the match.
My question for those who have shot both (Gen 1 and 360) does the three lug 360 have any advantages over the Gen 1 action? Or is it just a matter of bolt throw and bolt disassembly?
For the new rifle I intended to order a 360 but Joann said that it does not have a single shot follower. I definitely want another repeater and I can do a work around for the 360 on the match.
My question for those who have shot both (Gen 1 and 360) does the three lug 360 have any advantages over the Gen 1 action? Or is it just a matter of bolt throw and bolt disassembly?
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Post a pic of how it’s being pushed. Pushing the bolt release should pivot it out of the way of the bolt so if it was removed it should be able to be replaced.
Have you tried to just push it in? Maybe @RAVAGE88 can help out.
When I depress the button it doesn't pivot the piece on the inside out all the way. There's maybe 1mm or less sticking out still. Is that the same for you?
If I push this button in, the corresponding 'tit' (for lack of a better word) moves out of the way 100%, it's too dark to get a picture of but I suspect you know what I mean, Rob.
Yeah, bolt unlocked would definitely make it difficult to insert.
So when I insert my bolt, the bolt handle is up (2:00) & I've got lugs at 12:00, 4:00 & 8:00. That should tell you if your bolt is unlocked & ready to go back in.
Yeah, bolt unlocked would definitely make it difficult to insert.
So when I insert my bolt, the bolt handle is up (2:00) & I've got lugs at 12:00, 4:00 & 8:00. That should tell you if your bolt is unlocked & ready to go back in.
My lugs are in the exact same position however the handle is at more of a 3:00 position. I'll try to see if I can get it at a 2:00 tomorrow as I'm not home right now. The main issue is think is that the inside piece doesn't retract 100% when I depress the button. One of the corners in all the way in but the other one sticks out a bit. I'll try to get a photo of it tomorrow to post. Will also try to push it in from the inside through the ejection port but that isn't really a long term fix imho even if it works.
On another note I didn't receive a magazine loader tool with my order (Canadian dealer, end of June export). A friend of mine got his a few weeks ago and it came with one. I was under the impression that all the recent shipments would be getting one to help load the magazine correctly.
I wouldn't insert the bolt by reaching through the ejection port cause how are you ever going to get it back out?
On my bolt stop the top to bottom is angled to match the action walls when depressed, but from front to back those edges are completely straight (once again matching the action walls). All 4 side walls on my bolt stop are completely flat. Which corner sticks out on yours, assuming it's the one facing the back of the action?
Mine didn't come with a mag loader either. So you're not alone there
What the hell is a mag loader? Mags got tabs to pull down the follower. Where does a mag loader come in on a Vudoo mag?
It’s this 3D printed thing they ship now because people were pulling the tabs too far down and rimlocking the rounds.
That's true, I did not think about that. Good thing I read your reply before doing that and possibly be stuck with a bolt I can't remove.
All four sides of the bolt stop are flat however it doesn't sit flush with the action wall when depressed. Here's a rough and waaay exaggerated drawing of how it is when I depress it. Blue is the action wall and red is the bolt lock piece that sticks out. I'll upload a photo tomorrow when I'm back home. The part that sticks out past the action wall is only 1mm or less.
The missing mag loader isn't really an issue since I always take my time to load my mags correctly. Just would've liked it to be a bit more brainless and it's just weird since my rifle was with the lastest batch of exports to Canada. My friend whot his from the same Canadian dealer with a previous export got one so not sure why I didnt receive one. Will probably reach out to the dealer to see what's up with that.
@J-Ham
To insert the bolt on the Gen 2 and Gen 3 actions, one has to press the bolt release button. This is because the bolt is aligned via two features in the bore of the receiver. However, one can push the bolt past the bolt release in the Gen 1 as there are no additional bolt alignment features.
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There is a video from Vudoo on how to load the mags, before there was a mag loader. Do that and you won’t need it or have problems. Otherwise if anyone wants one of my mag loaders you can PM me and I can send it to you.
I watched that video, just not a 100% convinced yet that there isn't one slipping over the rim yet.
I've never had rimlocking in thousands of rounds through my Vudoo with polymer and aluminum magazines, so I can tell you that with proper technique it will not be an issue. But as I said, I'm happy to part with the two loaders they sent me...I am not using them
I actually share your opinion, just second guessing myself to much lately due to FTE's in my vudoo and rimx. Most likely rimlocking has nothing to do with my issues. Thank you.I've never had rimlocking in thousands of rounds through my Vudoo with polymer and aluminum magazines, so I can tell you that with proper technique it will not be an issue. But as I said, I'm happy to part with the two loaders they sent me...I am not using them
Very close to my set-up. With a 20" MTU and 5-27 ZCO. To get the balance I wanted had to fill all weight pockets in the 419 rail and remove all the steel weights/spacers from the buttstock.
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I see the discussion on rim locking and I'm aware of the proper technique for loading the Vudoo mags.
I don't think this is rim lock but I'm getting the occasional round that will not position "nose up" in the mag and just jams straight forward. If I snap the follower it generally will (position correctly), seems to be the gooey melting lube on the Center-X. Got my rifle in March and it ran flawlessly, now in the July heat these issues appear. Have any of you seen this sort of thing?
I don't think this is rim lock but I'm getting the occasional round that will not position "nose up" in the mag and just jams straight forward. If I snap the follower it generally will (position correctly), seems to be the gooey melting lube on the Center-X. Got my rifle in March and it ran flawlessly, now in the July heat these issues appear. Have any of you seen this sort of thing?
Since the weather has warmed up I have been cleaning my mags every match. The rimfire lube seems to melt and then dust from field matches sticks to everything. Since cleaning regularly I have had no issues with the nose down positioning.
I think it's been mentioned elsewhere, but let me say again here from perspective of personal experience: especially with my 15-round magazines, there seems to be a correlation between "nose down jams" and the orientation of cartridge noses in the mag.
Look at the photo. While case heads are obviously single-stacked, the bullets alternate left-right-left in the column. My experience is that, if two or more bullets aren't alternating as shown, there is an excellent chance that a bullet nose will fail to "pop up" into the requisite nose-high attitude as shown in the Vudoo video, oftentimes even when the video's "attitude correcting" measures are taken.
I don't have a sufficient verified sample size yet to say the alternating-bullet-attitude thing is a sure&certain cause of failure to feed reminiscent of rim lock. But pay attention; we'll see.
(And yep, that's CCI SV ammo in there... I didn't wanna get Lapua bacon grease on my fingers for this learned post
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You are my hero!!! Seriously I'm very disappointed to have these FTE's. They look exactly like the ones happening in the video.
No time to watch the whole thing yet, still at work. But now I'm confident of getting somewhere...... Same thing in my rimx by the way, Ray send me a new bolt head to try, coming in tomorrow.
No time to watch the whole thing yet, still at work. But now I'm confident of getting somewhere...... Same thing in my rimx by the way, Ray send me a new bolt head to try, coming in tomorrow.
Just picked up my new 360 today. Super happy gun shot great right out of the box tiny hole at 50 and about half inch at 100 with center x I went with a 22mtu not threaded, trigger tech diamond in a foundation exodus. Glad I went with the 22 mtu rifle balances right in front of the mag well. Running the bolt takes a minute to get used to wants to bind if you try to manhandle it but with the right technique it runs great I’m sure it will smooth out with use.
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Just wait till the ceracote wears in. The thing is mint after 1k or so cycles.
Does the 360 have any advantages over the Gen 1 V22 other than bolt throw and bolt disassembly?
I personally haven't seen a 360 yet, or this specific issue but from what I'm seeing in the video I would recommend you check to see how tight the extractors are holding the rim to the bolt face. If there is a slight gap (or if the case can be slightly pulled forward away from the bolt face during extraction from the chamber), test this with the bolt in hand by inserting a round in the extractors and check for fore and aft movement.
I have diagnosed this in other actions and usually find it's lack of extractor tension on the case. Different brands have different rim thickness, if I remember correctly Eley has a thicker rim than Lapua you can try and find a case with a thicker rim to see if it resolves the issue, that way you will know if it has anything to do with how the case is being held against the bolt face or not and go from there.
I have also seen extractor designs that have a puller on the ejection port side and a pusher on the opposite which can work fine but I have also found some designs that need a sight modification to the pusher so it helps retain the case against the bolt face a bit more.
Basically all of this is to create more resistance to the ejection so that it takes slightly more rearward movent of the bolt before the ejector begins to push the case out of the extractors. So your creating more spring pressure before ejection occurs thus slinging the case clear of the ejection port.
Just a thought, I'm 100% confident VGW is all over this and certainty doesn't need my input. I just thought I would mention it if anyone likes to tinker. I have a 360 on order and am anxious to get it, this issue is a no factor to me because of the confidence I have in the crew at Vudoo.
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