Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action

[Schütze]

Thank you. I emailed this morning and they just answered that they want the rifle back to work on it.
I changed extractor and tensioner with spring and plungers already. Also cleaned up a burr in the extractor slot with a fine stone.
Everything is moving freely and new, cleaned and lubed. Still weak ejection.

 

[Defender32]

I think it's been mentioned elsewhere, but let me say again here from perspective of personal experience: with my 15-round magazines, there seems to be a correlation between "nose down jams" and the orientation of cartridge noses in the mag.

Look at the photo. While case heads are obviously single-stacked, the bullets alternate left-right-left in the column. My experience is that, if two or more bullets aren't alternating as shown, there is an excellent chance that a bullet nose will fail to "pop up" into the requisite nose-high attitude as shown in the Vudoo video, oftentimes even when the video's "attitude correcting" measures are taken.

I don't have a sufficient verified sample size yet to say the alternating-bullet-attitude thing is a sure&certain cause of failure to feed reminiscent of rim lock. But pay attention; we'll see.

(And yep, that's CCI SV ammo in there... I didn't wanna get Lapua bacon grease on my fingers for this learned post ...)
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[Defender32]

I have been having un reliable feeding issues from my 15 round magazine from day 1. I have only had it for a couple of months and plenty of the Glass filled ones so it wasn’t an issue. I wanted to use it at a PRS match this weekend and it just wouldn’t work. I was told some things to try and made it a little better but random just not feed at all. A few messages back an forth from MB on IG page as that’s where I was when I was thinking about it.

I think I have a spring issue and it will be solved. I was loading it for the 3rd time tonight just cycling ammo through and noticed the spring was not stacking on the follower & was binding up under it. Here is a pic as I don’t figure the video will upload. I sent the video to MB and waiting his response. I know 100% Vudoo will help me solve the issue.

 

[Cowpokey]

Is the spring upside-down?

 

[JBoomhauer]

Not sure if this helps, but this is how mine is oriented in a brand new mag.

 

[Cowpokey]

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Not sure if this helps, but this is how mine is oriented in a brand new mag.

That looks normal, I would expect the spring to have a "flat" top and bottom. Still waiting on my Three 60...

 

[JBoomhauer]

That looks normal, I would expect the spring to have a "flat" top and bottom. Still waiting on my Three 60...

Yeah his looks like it got clipped off or something. I can see that binding up.

 

[Schütze]

May I ask why the rear of your follower is ground of?

 

[Defender32]

It is a 15 rounder and came from Vudoo that way. I think it was done to help with Nose Up feeding into the chamber.

MB just confirmed I have a spring issue. It should be flat on the top towards the follower. I’ll try to make it set as flat as possible against the floor plate and run it.

 

[DisplacedTexan]

Just got off the phone with vudoo about my 360--

Apparently there was a parts shortage in may that pushed production back 5-6 weeks. So, my BA that was supposed to be done this week is now due at the end of August. For reference, I ordered mine the day of the announcement.

An update would have been appreciated, but whatever.

 

[Cowpokey]

I talked to them a couple weeks ago and the delay was 2-3 weeks...mine was supposed to be ready the end of Jun, they are hoping to get it out by the end of this month.

 

[huntnh]

For you guys with 22 inch barrels what’s your average velocity with center x. Having trouble getting my magnetospeed sporter to work lately

 

[Badjujuu]

I've been getting higher velocity measured by VS. not sure what's that all about. Kind of screws me up so i stopped using v3 and just do a MV calibration in my Kestrel.

For you guys with 22 inch barrels what’s your average velocity with center x. Having trouble getting my magnetospeed sporter to work lately

 

[Rob01]

I've been getting higher velocity measured by VS. not sure what's that all about. Kind of screws me up so i stopped using v3 and just do a MV calibration in my Kestrel.

How do you know if the velocity is higher than it should be? Did you get a reading on another chrono? Or multiples to make sure which is right? If just using what you are seeing down range then I doubt it’s the velocity and more with the BC or environmental conditions.

 

[rnaylor2]

1092 out of my 22"MTU Ace barrel. I had to set my sensitivity to level 6 and now it captures every shot. Hope that helps.

 

[Pocket]

Same same. Mine was supposed to be 7/13/21
It’s ok now…but not really wanting to miss out on a few matches with out this lady…but when I do get her I will have a brand new never fired foundation genesis 2 stock available

 

[Badjujuu]

How do you know if the velocity is higher than it should be? Did you get a reading on another chrono? Or multiples to make sure which is right? If just using what you are seeing down range then I doubt it’s the velocity and more with the BC or environmental conditions.

I use the Magneto speed chronograph, center x and sk long range was shooting hotter , I'm talking 1199 for CX. This wasn't just one shot either. Maybe there is something wrong with my v3. Dont know. But with the same setting i wasn't getting such high Numbers with a 20" V22.

 

[Rob01]

Is that the new box center x?

I would check the settings again and then try and find another chrono to verify.

 

[Badjujuu]

Is that the new box center x?

I would check the settings again and then try and find another chrono to verify.

No, it's the older box. I haven't played with the v3 since and now that my buddy got one I'll be able to verify. Trust me, it puzzled me.

Since then, I took my kestrel, took environmentals, distance to target (200yd) and calibrated MV to actual hits. It's been right on since then (i did that to each ammo I'm shooting) .

 

[huntnh]

1092 wow that’s faster than I thought. @Badjujuu your barrel a 22 inch? I don’t have a kestrel trying to figure it out old school lol

 

[JBoomhauer]

1092 wow that’s faster than I thought. @Badjujuu your barrel a 22 inch? I don’t have a kestrel trying to figure it out old school lol

If you make it out, I’ll bring my magneetospeed and you can double check.

 

[Rob01]

1092 wow that’s faster than I thought. @Badjujuu your barrel a 22 inch? I don’t have a kestrel trying to figure it out old school lol

Dpending on the lot of Center X it is anywhere from about 1065 to 1106fps in my 18" barrel. Interesting fact though is the SD in each lot is around 6fps on average so as long as I stay in the same lot I am good.

 

[Badjujuu]

1092 wow that’s faster than I thought. @Badjujuu your barrel a 22 inch? I don’t have a kestrel trying to figure it out old school lol

Yup, 22 MTU - I'll be heading to the range Friday so I'll run the V3 again on it. I believe my sensitivity setting was 6 last time I ran the magnetospeed.

I'll bring my 20" as well to bounce it against it

 

[CavReconScout]

22” MTU, V3 set to #5, older lot of Center X.

 

[Luke22:36]

Picked up my Three 60 this week. Kinda nice to see a company that could easily thrive on the success of their Gen 1, and sell only that model for decades, continue with evolutionary changes in an effort to keep improving. I know the current wait is difficult (and largely due to circumstances out of anyone's control), but I personally don't mind. And I appreciate the few who strive for excellence these days. I'm not a fan-boy of ANYONE (well, ok, one Person.), but... well done Vudoo/MB.

I wasn't expecting the firing pin change. Interesting. Gen 2 on the left and 360 on the right.

 

[JohnTheFisherman]

Picked up my Three 60 this week. Kinda nice to see a company that could easily thrive on the success of their Gen 1, and sell only that model for decades, continue with evolutionary changes in an effort to keep improving. I know the current wait is difficult (and largely due to circumstances out of anyone's control), but I personally don't mind. And I appreciate the few who strive for excellence these days. I'm not a fan-boy of ANYONE (well, ok, one Person.), but... well done Vudoo/MB.

I wasn't expecting the firing pin change. Interesting. Gen 2 on the left and 360 on the right.
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I sent my gen 2 in for maintenance and while it was there they swapped out the firing pin. They didn’t say why but I was assuming it was the result of some issues they were having with design, kind of like a recall. I guess they’ve moved on from that style.

 

[littlepod]

Very close to my set-up. With a 20" MTU and 5-27 ZCO. To get the balance I wanted had to fill all weight pockets in the 419 rail and remove all the steel weights/spacers from the buttstock.View attachment 7670735

Yep same with what I had to do, and I noticed you got an additional weight which I'd liked to have on the top of your rail.

 

[littlepod]

I see the discussion on rim locking and I'm aware of the proper technique for loading the Vudoo mags.
I don't think this is rim lock but I'm getting the occasional round that will not position "nose up" in the mag and just jams straight forward. If I snap the follower it generally will (position correctly), seems to be the gooey melting lube on the Center-X. Got my rifle in March and it ran flawlessly, now in the July heat these issues appear. Have any of you seen this sort of thing?

This is exactly rimlock if the round will not go up and jams straight forward.

 

[Badjujuu]

Yep same with what I had to do, and I noticed you got an additional weight which I'd liked to have on the top of your rail.

Was wondering about that weight on the rail....

 

[littlepod]

Picked up my Three 60 this week. Kinda nice to see a company that could easily thrive on the success of their Gen 1, and sell only that model for decades, continue with evolutionary changes in an effort to keep improving. I know the current wait is difficult (and largely due to circumstances out of anyone's control), but I personally don't mind. And I appreciate the few who strive for excellence these days. I'm not a fan-boy of ANYONE (well, ok, one Person.), but... well done Vudoo/MB.

I wasn't expecting the firing pin change. Interesting. Gen 2 on the left and 360 on the right.
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Is your Deuce coming in soon?

 

[accurate obsession]

This is exactly rimlock if the round will not go up and jams straight forward.

So when it's in rim lock condition and you snap the follower it will then orient correctly but probably nose down again upon pushing it with the bolt?

 

[Rob01]

You guys know 22 is the caliber and not the minimum pound weight you have to make the rifle to have it balance on a pin head exactly .76543” in front of the magwell right? Lol

 

[littlepod]

So when it's in rim lock condition and you snap the follower it will then orient correctly but probably nose down again upon pushing it with the bolt?

When I've seen people end up in rim lock position, they usually drop mag, slap the bottom of it and then they're good to go. When I load my alu mags I end up rimlocking quite a bit. I can tell when I loaded it incorrectly and I just slap the bottom of my mag and everything spins back in correct orientation, and I continue loading.

 

[littlepod]

You guys know 22 is the caliber and not the minimum pound weight you have to make the rifle to have it balance on a pin head exactly .76543” in front of the magwell right? Lol

But I need to game the stages! I need it to sit without my body touching the rifle and point exactly at the target and then I need my 3oz trigger so I can shoot it without it moving!

 

[accurate obsession]

Yep same with what I had to do, and I noticed you got an additional weight which I'd liked to have on the top of your rail.

It was very close to balancing just right, I'm a machinist for a living and just made a weight that is triple the normal one.

 

[accurate obsession]

Was wondering about that weight on the rail....

I made it, basically triple a normal weight.

 

[accurate obsession]

But I need to game the stages! I need it to sit without my body touching the rifle and point exactly at the target and then I need my 3oz trigger so I can shoot it without it moving!

I know many like to poke fun at the gamer aspect of certain things, I did as well a couple of years ago.
Yes, it's a PITA toting a 16-19# rifle.
No, it's not practical, except for playing the game most of us are interested in.
Yes, it has made a considerable difference since I got on board with the balance idea with centerfire and rimfire.

 

[Luke22:36]

Is your Deuce coming in soon?

I held on as long as I could, but bailed when Vudoo announced the Three 60. Who knows, I'm so deep into this rimfire rabbit-hole financially that I may end up back on the Deuce wait list if they turn out to be as nice as expected. I seem to have issues with liking cool things that make me smile lol

 

[Badjujuu]

I know many like to poke fun at the gamer aspect of certain things, I did as well a couple of years ago.
Yes, it's a PITA toting a 16-19# rifle.
No, it's not practical, except for playing the game most of us are interested in.
Yes, it has made a considerable difference since I got on board with the balance idea with centerfire and rimfire.

Every time I think about getting some gadget for my rifle (or worrying about perfect balance) I remind myself that a 15 year old with a base class Tikka beat 190 other shooters at NRL22 championship

 

[Rob01]

Yup it’s the shooter that is most important and the gear comes in next. I chuckle at all the balance talk. Way over thought!

 

[accurate obsession]

Shooting or virtually any other sport, you can buy some points, but at the end of the day that 7K .22 rifle isn't going to win the match for you. Either going to put in the work to improve YOU or just be content being the best dressed dude at the bottom.

 

[Schütze]

or just be content being the best dressed dude at the bottom

Who cares if I'm at the bottom half with a 6k rifle? I do this to learn and have fun!
And wile we are at it, money buys you no points .... I'm still working out bugs with help of the manufacturers on 2 of these 6k rifles. These "bugs" make you loose stages too.

 

[Defender32]

I have been having un reliable feeding issues from my 15 round magazine from day 1. I have only had it for a couple of months and plenty of the Glass filled ones so it wasn’t an issue. I wanted to use it at a PRS match this weekend and it just wouldn’t work. I was told some things to try and made it a little better but random just not feed at all. A few messages back an forth from MB on IG page as that’s where I was when I was thinking about it.

I think I have a spring issue and it will be solved. I was loading it for the 3rd time tonight just cycling ammo through and noticed the spring was not stacking on the follower & was binding up under it. Here is a pic as I don’t figure the video will upload. I sent the video to MB and waiting his response. I know 100% Vudoo will help me solve the issue. View attachment 7671551View attachment 7671552

After my found Mag Spring issues above and @RAVAGE88 telling me to just flip it over as it would be G2G. I figured the spring needed to be flat on the floor plate as well. It was 100% flawless for 60 rounds last night. I did not cycle the bolt slow and I didn't cycle it fast. Just a fluid motion keeping the plate in view of the optic through the whole cycle. If you have a Vudoo problem of any sort MB can solve and will do everything he can to do so. Thanks MB I appreciate it. Now buy s good bottle of Bourbon (Weller 12) and enjoy some of it this weekend.

 

[Krob95]

i might be last, but I have a pretty damn nice rifle lol

 

[Panther]

On another note I didn't receive a magazine loader tool with my order (Canadian dealer, end of June export). A friend of mine got his a few weeks ago and it came with one. I was under the impression that all the recent shipments would be getting one to help load the magazine correctly.

Mine didn't come with one either, but with the finger buttons that the mag comes with, I don't know why you'd need a loading assist tool.

I've got three of their10rd polymer mags (logo version) here, and I'm having trouble getting the baseplates off for cleaning. I would have presumed it works like the other dozens of magazines that I've taken apart before: depress the little button, and slide the baseplate forward. I even tried it by taking the pressure off the baseplate by using a small screwdriver to compress the spring upwards... still no joy. Is there something I'm missing, or are these just extra tight? I didn't want to force them.

 

[Badjujuu]

" or just be content being the best dressed dude at the bottom."

You know I'm on this forum and can see your posts talking about me?

I feel personally attacked

 

[accurate obsession]

I do this to learn and have fun!

At the end of the day, 100% with you.
But --- in most of us there is a competitive streak (and I mean the good natured type competition) that just won't lie down. I spend so much on equipment to try and eliminate as many of those variables as possible, so the rest are placed squarely on my shoulders. And I don't spend all this time, effort and $$$ strictly in pursuit of this game, I mean look at my name on this forum, It's a sickness in a fun sort of way.

 

[Eadle]

Mine didn't come with one either, but with the finger buttons that the mag comes with, I don't know why you'd need a loading assist tool.

I've got three of their10rd polymer mags (logo version) here, and I'm having trouble getting the baseplates off for cleaning. I would have presumed it works like the other dozens of magazines that I've taken apart before: depress the little button, and slide the baseplate forward. I even tried it by taking the pressure off the baseplate by using a small screwdriver to compress the spring upwards... still no joy. Is there something I'm missing, or are these just extra tight? I didn't want to force them.

I had to use the largest screwdriver I had that fits in the hole and really use some leverage to get the initial movement started. Once you pop them, the next time is easier.

 

[DownhillFromHere]

Who cares if I'm at the bottom half with a 6k rifle? I do this to learn and have fun!
And wile we are at it, money buys you no points .... I'm still working out bugs with help of the manufacturers on 2 of these 6k rifles. These "bugs" make you loose stages too.

A few decades ago, one of the clay target magazines did a satire on the equipment race.

In the satire, a newbie went to a shoot with a field shotgun and was laughed at and otherwise ignored by the kool kids. So the newb built an android which was human-like enough to pass muster but was otherwise totally mechanical - and it never ever missed a target. Newb outfitted the droid with the cheapest, lightest, most awful brutal-recoiling field gun he could find and put a steel butt plate on it for good measure.

So the android shooter dominated the national rankings. Soon, there wasn't a dirt-cheap shotgun to be found and people were selling steel butt plates at the big shoots. Despite black&blue shoulders and split-open cheek bones, everybody had to have the same shotgun as the guy who never missed....

 

[Schütze]

So you are saying I can’t take my Izmash biathlon to a 22 match? Should I get the Fortner Anschütz then? After all it’s German right?
Sorry I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to tell me.
There are really only 3 choices if you want a 22 in R700 format but way more shotguns I think (no knowledge about them I have).
And I’m way over the age of wanting to look cool, maybe thinking more about how much time I have left to enjoy the hobby.