Wagner Private Military On The Move - Moscow

Part of the units leading the fighting is not satisfied that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is run by incompetent old men. thus they expressed their disagreement with such a provision. and it seems that they were heard. because the decision has been made not to hold anyone accountable. Only Putin personally could make such a decision. And he, as a reasonable person, made a choice. The Minister of Defense and the Chief of the General Staff will leave their posts.
 
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I think it was an a-team. But… yeah.

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They attacked SF? Could have been. I was thinking they attacked Marines in Syria and were 100% wiped out in short order. I recall Putin saying he knew nothing about it. If these are the same mercs then they are no threat to anyone but themselves.
 
Read my 2 posts in this thread. I think this is what Dirty D is talking about but he hasn't replied yet.
The Wiki article downplays the Wagner involvement but most accounts say they lost 700 men when they decided to attack a Green Beret base that had a USMC artillery detachment. DJT was POTUS at the time and sent a very clear message to the Kremlin


 
The Wiki article downplays the Wagner involvement but most accounts say they lost 700 men when they decided to attack a Green Beret base that had a USMC artillery detachment. DJT was POTUS at the time and sent a very clear message to the Kremlin



Thanks, I recall doing a lot of LOL'ing when it happened. It's hard to take these clowns seriously when their name pops up now.
 
wagner group was labeled a terror org by the US so if Biden gave money, he in deep doo doo
Oh, it would be properly laundered through all sorts of channels made to muddle things up really well. Add that there will never be an investigation (by anyone that matters) and the Brandon Crime Syndicate (BCS) just does business as usual.
 
wagner group was labeled a terror org by the US so if Biden gave money, he in deep doo doo
i'm not so sure. the cia under obama knowingly armed and trained terrorists in syria and got away with it.
brennan actually wanted to expand the program even after they knew their trainees immediately joined al nusra front and other terrorists groups.
 
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Thanks, I recall doing a lot of LOL'ing when it happened. It's hard to take these clowns seriously when their name pops up now.
I assume that episode is part of why WG recognized that the Russian generals are out of touch and clueless to the modern battlefield, read the list of (disclosed) assets we hit them with, WG were fish in a barrel when US air support showed up and I’ll bet money the Marine arty det didn’t pass up on the opportunity to throw everything they could at the ground formation.
 
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This isn't the last of it.

Sounds like for only a few days work they got a huge pay off to reinvest into a future effort. Russia caved hard because they can barely fight the Ukraine plebs let alone a second front / coup thing.

Wagner guy wanted to fight the deep state as well as the giant failure that is Russian leadership. This hasn't changed and the ceasefire is more akin to the German non aggression pact of WW2 than anything.

Russia again is buying time and it sounds like Wagner didn't get all of the support it was promised via back channel (surprised there!).

From a Wagner standpoint, all they need to do now is to 'not lose' while the war continues to destabilize Russia and weaken its military.
 
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I'm jealous. He hasn't invited me for some time now.....any idea of where ya'll are gonna eat? I mean, relative locations....is he still in Moscow?

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Careful. Don’t drink the orange juice!

wagner group was labeled a terror org by the US so if Biden gave money, he in deep doo doo
Well to be fair, everyone on this board is labeled a terrorist so...

i'm not so sure. the cia under obama knowingly armed and trained terrorists in syria and got away with it.
brennan actually wanted to expand the program even after they knew their trainees immediately joined al nusra front and other terrorists groups.
Bingo!

This isn't the last of it.

Sounds like for only a few days work they got a huge pay off to reinvest into a future effort. Russia caved hard because they can barely fight the Ukraine plebs let alone a second front / coup thing.

Wagner guy wanted to fight the deep state as well as the giant failure that is Russian leadership. This hasn't changed and the ceasefire is more akin to the German non aggression pact of WW2 than anything.

Russia again is buying time and it sounds like Wagner didn't get all of the support it was promised via back channel (surprised there!).

From a Wagner standpoint, all they need to do now is to 'not lose' while the war continues to destabilize Russia and weaken its military.
This mimics my thoughts on this situation. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Could be something, might be nothing.
 
I’m not so sure that Putin wouldn’t have used the Chechens against Wagner while leaving most of the Russian army to deal with Ukraine. I saw a small article stating that as a possibility. That would have been a mess for sure. But don’t think for a moment thst this wasn’t used to remove the Wagner leader from any Russian political aspirations of dethroning Putin while also keeping the Wagner forces in the fight.
 
I’m not so sure that Putin wouldn’t have used the Chechens against Wagner while leaving most of the Russian army to deal with Ukraine. I saw a small article stating that as a possibility. That would have been a mess for sure. But don’t think for a moment thst this wasn’t used to remove the Wagner leader from any Russian political aspirations of dethroning Putin while also keeping the Wagner forces in the fight.
101 Tiktok brigade -aka Akhmat was sent to take on Wagner , and were probably most relieved that they did not have to face Wagner.
They definitely made some more Tik Tok videos