wanting to build a custom long range rifle

[yogibear187]

Hey , I'm from Australian i I'm fairly new around here but been doing a lot of reading over the past few weeks, and have all ways had interest in long range shooting. all ways loved making 600 yard + shoots with a 243 while out foxing.

now i want to build a big custom long range rifle , i want to be able too attempt shots between the range of 1000 and 2000 yards on game (pigs , deer , goats , etc) and obliviously need enough energy to make HUMANE kills, we have VERY few long range's here so i dont think this rig will ever see long distance ranges.

my question is what caliber ? i was looking at the 408 cheytec as it has very good accuracy out their with plenty of knock down power(recoil doesn't bother me i shoot my 300 RUM weighting 7.5 lb fully kited and can manage 1/2in groups at 100 yards) , on a lawton 8500-L action as i want it to be a repeater.

would the 338 lap do this? is their any other caliber's i should look at?

and any other info , only just getting into this


thanks heaps

 

[Winny]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

I hope you meant to say HUMANE kills and not human kills.....

 

[YN*Dotte]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Winny</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hope you meant to say HUMANE kills and not human kills..... </div></div>

My thoughts exactly,... But no shot at 1000 yards or more is in the realm of humane, IMHO, but ur wanting something like that a .338 or .300 WM minumum, for long range humane hunting, which I dicourage for a new shooter, as it is very expensive and very heavy recoil. Good luck deciding.

 

[exhogflyer]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

408 Cheytac, 50 bmg or 338 Lapua in that order.
Oh and bring your wallet...

 

[JWV]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

Your not going to go all Quigley Down Under on some aborigines are you?

 

[head2h2o]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

Have you tried loading up your RUM with some heavier bullets and seeing the effects on game at longer ranges. 1000yds on game is really starting to stretch the limits of humane shooting.

 

[Chiller]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yogibear187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey , I'm from Australian i I'm fairly new around here but been doing a lot of reading over the past few weeks, and have all ways had interest in long range shooting. all ways loved making 600 yard + shoots with a 243 while out foxing.

now i want to build a big custom long range rifle , i want to be able too attempt shots between the range of 1000 and 2000 yards on game (pigs , deer , goats , etc) and obliviously need enough energy to make human kills, we have VERY few long range's here so i dont think this rig will ever see long distance ranges.

my question is what caliber ? i was looking at the 408 cheytec as it has very good accuracy out their with plenty of knock down power(recoil doesn't bother me i shoot my 300 RUM weighting 7.5 lb fully kited and can manage 1/2in groups at 100 yards) , on a lawton 8500-L action as i want it to be a repeater.

would the 338 lap do this? is their any other caliber's i should look at?

and any other info , only just getting into this


thanks heaps </div></div>

Before this goes any further. Please clarify a VERY important word in your post.

Human

or

Humane.

 

[KeithR41]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

If you don't have a place to shoot LR, why do you want the rifle?

Hmmmmmm?

41

 

[yogibear187]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

lol sorry yer Humane, was half sleep when written.


i said i don't have a long distance range , i do have property to hunt at theys distances tho.

any other advice you guys have i am very much willing to listen

 

[JCH]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yogibear187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol sorry yer Humane, was half sleep when written.


i said i don't have a long distance range , i do have property to hunt at theys distances tho.

any other advice you guys have i am very much willing to listen


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I wouldn't try shooting an animal at long range if I didn't have a range to practice on and get my skill level and confidence up. Last thing anyone wants it to wound an animal at long range.

 

[dbateman]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

ok so where in Au are you ? fill your profile out

Like the others have said if you don't have a range to practice at those ranges you really have no business shooting at game at these long ranges.

A 408cheytac might be a bit hard to get at the moment over here as the Gov has a bit of an issue with people having large cal rifles.

might I suggest you learn to drive your 300RUM and when it is shot out rebarrel to 338edge

 

[yogibear187]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

i am in NSW and we have no cailbar limited for now.

i can do some practice on the few property i shoot at, i was more saying it wasn't going to be a range gun , in other words i didn't wanna shoot any type of computation with it.

will a 338 LM have the knock down power out around 1500 yards mark?

my 300rum is a XCR 700 , so not really suited for this style shooting.

and what about optics ? 5.5 x 22 x 56mm night force? i own 2 of theys all ready and i love them , their on a remington 700 XCR TACTICAL in 308 and a 700 sps tactical in 223.

 

[Peepaw]

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Well, Ill be the first one to NOT be politcally correct when it comes to taking a shot at 1000 yards, at least on the Pig. If Pig is wounded, so be it. Nasty freakn animal that needs to be wiped out. With all teh damage it does, a little suffering isnt going to make me lose any sleep over it.
Mabe I have a sore spot because Im in Texas, and pigs caused over $500 MILLION dollars in damage last year (YES, I watched the show teh other night and is where I got that info, but I have hated pigs for ALOT longer then that)

Now, Deer, etc...taking shots at 1000 yards, is yes, unethical for most part.

Pig? No chance....think its perfect for that.


Oh, either the .50 BMG, .408 CT, or .338 Lap will handle it...

 

[19818119]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, Ill be the first one to NOT be politcally correct when it comes to taking a shot at 1000 yards, at least on the Pig. If Pig is wounded, so be it. Nasty freakn animal that needs to be wiped out. With all teh damage it does, a little suffering isnt going to make me lose any sleep over it.
Mabe I have a sore spot because Im in Texas, and pigs caused over $500 MILLION dollars in damage last year (YES, I watched the show teh other night and is where I got that info, but I have hated pigs for ALOT longer then that)

Now, Deer, etc...taking shots at 1000 yards, is yes, unethical for most part.

Pig? No chance....think its perfect for that.

Oh, either the .50 BMG, .408 CT, or .338 Lap will handle it... </div></div>

So it's ethical to wound a pig but not a deer...wake up to yourself. A pig is no different to any other animal surviving on instinct, pigs are not conscious of any damage they cause and deserve as much respect as any other animal. Sure you can argue otherwise but you'll need to set aside logic to do so...

 

[YN*Dotte]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, Ill be the first one to NOT be politcally correct when it comes to taking a shot at 1000 yards, at least on the Pig. If Pig is wounded, so be it. Nasty freakn animal that needs to be wiped out. With all teh damage it does, a little suffering isnt going to make me lose any sleep over it.
Mabe I have a sore spot because Im in Texas, and pigs caused over $500 MILLION dollars in damage last year (YES, I watched the show teh other night and is where I got that info, but I have hated pigs for ALOT longer then that)

Now, Deer, etc...taking shots at 1000 yards, is yes, unethical for most part.

Pig? No chance....think its perfect for that.


Oh, either the .50 BMG, .408 CT, or .338 Lap will handle it... </div></div>

How is wounding a pig any more ethical? Just curious, that sounds a like a major lack of responsability on your part and any shooter who would willingly take a shot at any animal knowing that there was a possibility of wounding it and not cleanly killing it with the first shot. Im sure the pigs do not have a vendetta or anything like that with your land or anyone elses for that matter, they are just doing what they have done for thousands of years.

 

[Jerkface11]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

Pigs are an introduced highly destructive pest species. If you have a shot on one take it clean kill or not.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerkface11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Thank you....

 

[Peepaw]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rath</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peepaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, Ill be the first one to NOT be politcally correct when it comes to taking a shot at 1000 yards, at least on the Pig. If Pig is wounded, so be it. Nasty freakn animal that needs to be wiped out. With all teh damage it does, a little suffering isnt going to make me lose any sleep over it.
Mabe I have a sore spot because Im in Texas, and pigs caused over $500 MILLION dollars in damage last year (YES, I watched the show teh other night and is where I got that info, but I have hated pigs for ALOT longer then that)

Now, Deer, etc...taking shots at 1000 yards, is yes, unethical for most part.

Pig? No chance....think its perfect for that.

Oh, either the .50 BMG, .408 CT, or .338 Lap will handle it... </div></div>

<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="color: #FF0000">So it's ethical to wound a pig but not a deer</span></span>

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Im not saying that I would INTENTIONALLY just "wound" a pig, and let it be. NO! Im shooting to KILL on ANY species. Imjust saying that if I have a shot that is "questionable" and it's a pig, Im gonna TAKE IT! A deer (or other), and is questionable, NO, I WOULDNT!

 

[Peepaw]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YN*Dotte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How is wounding a pig any more ethical? Just curious, that sounds a like a major lack of responsability on your part and any shooter who would willingly take a shot at any animal knowing that there was a possibility of wounding it and not cleanly killing it with the first shot. Im sure the pigs do not have a vendetta or anything like that with your land or anyone elses for that matter, they are just doing what they have done for thousands of years. </div></div>



Just so Im clear for everyone, and because Im not teh politcally correct guy, a pig is a nasty, destructive animal, and if I have a questionable shot on a PIG, Im gonna take it. Im also gonna do what I can to make sure I have and take the best shot I can, but if it's questionable, Im gonna take it. In other words, I would take shots on pigs, that I wouldnt on other animals.
If that offends you, sorry. it's how I feel.

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

please don't feed the trolls............

 

[blakheaven]

Re: wanting to build a custom long range rifle

Pigs don't just stand around either, usually you have to take the shot your given plus I hate them som bitches (Excuse the language)