+1 to Garmin Fenix 5S (sapphire face model) All around good watch, and in a pinch with at least able to see up into the sky can navigate via the GPS function and map.
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We can agree on G-shock for sure. Luminox is one of the most overpriced, over-hyped watches I know of. You are literally paying for marketing. Luminox should cost 1/4 of what they go for. If you want a durable quartz watch with Tritium tubes, buy a Marathon.
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I would look closely at Tissot. I have a stainless steel PR50 Quartz for my beater watch, and it is 36mm and relatively light. The watch wears well, looks good as either a casual or a dress watch, and is built like a tank. From what I can see, Tissot has a decent number of models that run 36mm.
I have a Suunto Ambit3 Peak. I've used it for many years in the military. Been in and around various mountainous regions and it works great. Most features on it are awesome. It is the dumbest smart watch, but thats not why you buy this guy. I've recently bought an apple watch, but during any real use, i'll strap my Suunto back on.
LHD is awesome watch. I almost bought that one instead. I would like to try a Sinn T2 when one comes up for the right price. I think it will be better sized for my small wrist and I am a Ti fan.
+1 for a Sinn. My U2 is on its way back from the motherland as we speak. I remember reading a description of a Sinn watch "they're tool watches", I couldn't pick a better way to describe one. Besides this trip back to Germany, my U2 has been on my wrist 365 for 2 years. Range trips, hunting trips and daily wear on sites I'm a superintendent and a bit clumsy in general. Its been bounced off door jambs, framing lumber, ladders, its taken a few tumbles with me and it still looks amazing. My watch was made in 2011 and I figured it was due for a check up / overhaul, otherwise it would still be on my wrist.
If you're looking for a digital watch, Suunto might be worth a gander. I've had plenty of friends who've owned them and were very stoked on them.
* Should’ve been more specific, the Suunto all my buddies wore is the Core *
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If I one day get the nerve I'll custom order a UX, 10 o'clock crown and no date. I think that would be the ultimate every day watch, especially if they had a 12 hr bezel.
I broke 4-5 Suunto Cores, sold the last new replacement they sent me and bought a gdf-100-1b gshock and have had it for years now with no issue. I won't buy another Suunto.
Edit: I broke 4-5 Suunto Vectors
How have you broken so many Suuntos? I've had nothing but great experiences with the Core and Ambit3 Peak
I edited it prior to your response, Suunto Vectors is what I broke 4-5 of. My brother had the Core, original version and it was chewing up batteries at a rapid rate. He to sent it off a few times with no luck and sold it. Burned me on the brand. Sucks too because their silicone bands are so much more comfortable than Gshock but I don't think their durability is in the same ballpark.
I've run a basic Timex Ironman watch for years and in various countries for work. Never had a problem and other than the band eventually breaking after a few years of daily use, no issues. However I've recently abandoned that lifestyle and now I spend most of my time in my local mountains, at the range, and working out. So I treated myself to a Garmin Fenix 5X Sapphire. It's a pretty nice watch, big, but pretty nice. Has a bunch of features that you can turn on or off but more importantly, a great battery life (considering).
I played around with the ballistic app that's on it and it got me out to 600yds. However that's the farthest the local range goes and I was running 308 so I really haven't been able to test it at any sort of distance.
It is also a comfortable watch that, despite its size, you don't seem to notice you're wearing. If you have the cash and want something that does it all without being an Apple watch, then try it out. Honestly when you combine it with Best Buy's optional 2yr warranty, you can't go wrong.
I played around with the ballistic app that's on it and it got me out to 600yds. However that's the farthest the local range goes and I was running 308 so I really haven't been able to test it at any sort of distance.
It is also a comfortable watch that, despite its size, you don't seem to notice you're wearing. If you have the cash and want something that does it all without being an Apple watch, then try it out. Honestly when you combine it with Best Buy's optional 2yr warranty, you can't go wrong.
Ah I got ya. I used the Core for the first time at the Basic Military Mountaineer Course at Mountain Warfare School and that's what sold me on Suunto. They held up to a ton of abuse from student to student. I know I smashed it off my fair share of rocks haha. My Ambit3 Peak has seen a ton of abuse too. Maybe it was an issue with the early model or something?
I heard they fixed the Cores, I believe it was a firmware issue on the batteries but after he sent it in 2 or 3 times, the confidence was lost. On the Vectors, they had been out a long while, I even bought the Vector HR to see if that would be any different, Perhaps I am just rough on watches. Broke a couple and swamped out two in the water.
Bit of a watch nerd. Have everything from a Rolex Explorer II to a Swatch Sistem 51 to a solar G-Shock. Horses for courses. Would also agree that the Seiko SKX-007 is a super ISO rated dive watch, great value (only $200-$300), has a legendary mechanical mvmt. (no, it's not a Brueget), known for ease of manufacture and robustness (for a mechanical) in the field. Have one of those too.
Are mechanical watches more durable than digital quartz watches - no. But I buy mechanical watches for the "craft" involved in making those movements. I'm impressed with the hand work still involved in most movements, and the fact that they can stuff 150 parts in a case smaller than a 1/2 dollar, and have it keep any semblance of time is amazing. Look through the display back of something like a Omega Speedmaster Pro chronograph - it's amazing the whole thing works!
Of the watches mentioned in this thread (G-Shock, Suunto, Sinn, Rolex, etc.), can't say there's a bad one in the bunch. Again, horses for courses - that's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors.
Are mechanical watches more durable than digital quartz watches - no. But I buy mechanical watches for the "craft" involved in making those movements. I'm impressed with the hand work still involved in most movements, and the fact that they can stuff 150 parts in a case smaller than a 1/2 dollar, and have it keep any semblance of time is amazing. Look through the display back of something like a Omega Speedmaster Pro chronograph - it's amazing the whole thing works!
Of the watches mentioned in this thread (G-Shock, Suunto, Sinn, Rolex, etc.), can't say there's a bad one in the bunch. Again, horses for courses - that's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors.
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Ok so I will admit I have not read everything written. Watches and timepieces fall into very different back grounds. My two cents for what it is worth is a background in Swiss timepiece sales for the last twenty years.
If you want a timepiece that has accurate readings but can’t upload shooting data to, simply get the TTouch from Tissot. They work.
Anyone that tells you their mechanical watch is accurate is full of it. Now I have owned or currently own a Submarnier , sea-dweller, GMT2, Maurice pontos GMT, Swiss army divemaster500, Accutron chrono, numerous Tags, numerous red letter movado, one old ass Patek and have sold over 6000 watches in my life time. If it’s mechanical it’s for looks. I have sent back every single hi end name brand watch for issues. You buy them for looks and resell.
If you want a timepiece that has accurate readings but can’t upload shooting data to, simply get the TTouch from Tissot. They work.
Anyone that tells you their mechanical watch is accurate is full of it. Now I have owned or currently own a Submarnier , sea-dweller, GMT2, Maurice pontos GMT, Swiss army divemaster500, Accutron chrono, numerous Tags, numerous red letter movado, one old ass Patek and have sold over 6000 watches in my life time. If it’s mechanical it’s for looks. I have sent back every single hi end name brand watch for issues. You buy them for looks and resell.
Rolex has a +2/-2 sec per day accuracy standard on it's entire line. What do you define as not accurate?
This is ridiculous. They are tool watches. I have 4 rolexes, the least accurate of the bunch is 2 seconds fast per day. The most accurate is about 1 second fast over the course of a week. Waterproof to 300 feet minimum and up to 13,000 feet for one model.
So when you own five rolexes, and have been an authorized dealer for 15 years let me know your experiences. Your watch is not keeping an SD of zero. Lol. I know what they are rated for. I know what they actual do. Never did I say they where bad. I have them and love them. I did say they don’t keep time. No automatic keeps great time. I know your butt hurt because someone said your 5-250k watch does not really keep great time. Did you really buy it to keep time. Nope you bought it as a status symbol and in some cases an investment. I have sold thousands of Swiss automatics. I never once have had on person ever say, yes I will take this over that, because it keeps better time. If that was the reason, you would buy a 12 dollar timex.
I don't see how a mechanical watch could be more accurate than quartz.
Mechanical by definition means there is a lot of shit going on. Gears wearing, friction, attitude of wear can effect.
A quartz watch is a rock that vibrates at a determined frequency.
Mechanical is valued for the intricacy of the movement.
Quartz I understand the best movement is only about $60 in parts all the other money is spent on the case.
Mechanical by definition means there is a lot of shit going on. Gears wearing, friction, attitude of wear can effect.
A quartz watch is a rock that vibrates at a determined frequency.
Mechanical is valued for the intricacy of the movement.
Quartz I understand the best movement is only about $60 in parts all the other money is spent on the case.
Biggest problem with them is user-induced with the frequency and method of battery changes. They need to be cleaned before opening, opened in a dry environment, and in the vector’s case, the plastic battery door can warp if not replaced. The o rings should also be cleaned and lubricated.
Most people I knew did none of those things and had problems with the watch, from just condensation from ambient humidity that got in when the changed the battery to outright leaks the first time they got wet after being opened and then closed up again with a dry O ring or debris on the o ring seal.
Vectors also loved to shed the cheap plastic bezel and the polymer face would get scratched badly.
I saw probably dozens break or fail and the watches developed a bad reputation. Properly maintained, they are about as durable as it gets.
I had a vector for 5 years that outlived a G shock mudman (the mudman made it less than 2 before the resin bezel stretched out and the band cracked). I was still snorkeling with the vector on year 5 and I do not know how many battery changes. I ended up putting it on Ebay and getting more than what I paid for it 5 years prior (it was an HR model, which apparently were rare).
EDIT: Vector is probably a moot point, as they are no longer manufactured. With the prices on new Cores and other ABC watches, they are getting hard to justify compared to an Ambit or Traverse or Garmin Fenix or whatever. You just get so much more capability with a GPS smart watch unless you can’t wear a bluetooth/gps smartwatch for whatever reason.
for you guys who love watches this sexy beast needs a nice home
If its wound up, has gears and stuff like springs than its a mechanical device.
I may be lost on the exact watch definitions........
A spring drive I would consider my Waltham pocket watch.
An auto winder, an Oris, or something like that that uses a weight to wind a spring.
A Rolex Id also consider mechanical, you wind it up and shit inside moves, its like my Waltham.
Quartz relies on an excited rock.
Please correct me kindly if I am way off.
If you are going to get a Seiko SKX-007, spend a wee bit more and get a Turtle, aka Seiko SRP series. Better movement and you can hand wind too (and hack, or stop, the second hand when setting time). They come in all types of colors. I own one like the top pic, but I really like the bottom PADI version.
And yeah, anyone that spends more than a cheap casio costs is interested in status somewhat.
And yeah, anyone that spends more than a cheap casio costs is interested in status somewhat.
You’re sort of right but way off. Google Seiko Spring Drive and prepare to be amazed.
And that is the awesomeness of a watch.
Isnt the term in the watch world....complications?
Each display of information is a complication for the watchmaker to overcome.
The more complications the greater that exploded diagram extends.
One of my lesbian friends got me a nice Timex for my birthday, I think she totally misunderstood when I said I wanna watch.
Also, look into Scurfa watches. The company is owned by a working saturation diver in the North Sea and Scufa is his nickname. They make autos and quartz. As far as specs, I have to politely disagree with the statement that Marathon watches are the biggest bang for the buck; rather, Scurfa watches are. £183 for a 500m quartz diver with a domed sapphire crystal with the anti reflective coating on the underside and a Heliox escape valve! That is $230 as of this second (sorry for the pun).
That’s quite a bit cheaper than my auto Seiko mentioned above.
That’s quite a bit cheaper than my auto Seiko mentioned above.
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No such thing as maintenance on a Seiko, they just plain work, and when something about that changes you just replace the movement ($40 part) and continue on. I have 5 Seikos, some that I have owned for over 15 years, never touched one of them internally. They just keep doing their thing.
I mentioned the SKX007 earlier in the thread, I believe that every watch person should own one of them. They are without a doubt perhaps the best bang for the buck watch on the planet. Get one with the rubber strap (to save money) and throw on a Strap Code oyster bracelet you are all in for under $250 if you shop smart. Then if you really want to have some fun Google search for SKX007 Mods and see how they are kind of the AR15 of watches, lots of upgrades and custom options.
Goes with everything, looks great, real ISO dive certified, does not cost the same as an AI AX, win!
True, but no one wears a mechanical for the pinnacle in accuracy. There is just something soulful about a tiny little machine on your wrist, heart beating away, that just makes all the difference.
Colorado, I'm in your camp. Owning a mechanical watch is about more than accuracy, as quartz watches are more accurate. The soulfullness, engineering and manufacturing prowess and skill required to assemble a mechanical watch is amazing. It's not an either / or, but both. I'm wearing my SKX-007 as I type this at work, and wore my Apple Watch while mountain biking yesterday to gauge my heartrate, feet climbed, distance biked, etc. I'm a fan of both.
No reason you can't own and enjoy a .50 cal black powder rifle with iron sights, and at the same time an AI in 6.5 CM with a Nightforce ATACR scope while using a ballistic software app.
I own, and enjoy shooting my Marlin 1895 in 45-70, a 100+ year old cartridge with the trajectory of a mortar shell! Is it as accurate as my Rem 700 with a Vortex PST Gen II in a Bravo stock that I use with dope from the JBM ballistic app - nope. Guess what, I like shooting both.
No reason you can't own and enjoy a .50 cal black powder rifle with iron sights, and at the same time an AI in 6.5 CM with a Nightforce ATACR scope while using a ballistic software app.
I own, and enjoy shooting my Marlin 1895 in 45-70, a 100+ year old cartridge with the trajectory of a mortar shell! Is it as accurate as my Rem 700 with a Vortex PST Gen II in a Bravo stock that I use with dope from the JBM ballistic app - nope. Guess what, I like shooting both.
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Oh yeah SKX series are great. Depending on what's going on with the watch and the price, it's cheaper to just buy another one rather than send it in for adjustment and re-oiling etc. Citizen is also another great brand that doesn't break the bank. Gotta agree that there's something soulful about a true mechanical watch versus a quartz or electrical movement.
I have seen a Savage, that is more accurate than an AI. How many in here would rather have that Savage if given the choice? Probably zero. This is the exact same reason people buy watches worth 100 times one that will keep perfect time.
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Oh I agree totally.
In a suit I wear one of a few old Walthams I was given with a watch chain and FOB.
The coolness of such a watch is maintaining it.
Walking by the cable box and seeing your watch is 3 minutes off so that you can pull it from your pocket, pull the stem and synchronize it with the more accurate time piece. Peeps be looking like "Wow, cool old school"
There is a reason why in the western movies there always seems to be a cowboy or "dude" pulling out his watch and adjusting it to the town clock tower.
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Got the Pcat sized and rockin. Really liking the feel of this watch
Watches tell time. Buy what you like. And trying to chase resale value can be difficult as markets and trends change.
G shock on my wrist now for work
X2 tissot that I dont wear, 1 has weld splatter on it the other is around somewhere
1 nice tag heuer about 4k that I only wear out with my wife.
A watch tells time but it can also affect your mood. If my g shock is on I feel like work mode. If it's a nice tag then I feel like I'm on vacation.
G shock on my wrist now for work
X2 tissot that I dont wear, 1 has weld splatter on it the other is around somewhere
1 nice tag heuer about 4k that I only wear out with my wife.
A watch tells time but it can also affect your mood. If my g shock is on I feel like work mode. If it's a nice tag then I feel like I'm on vacation.
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