Well Alabama went and did it....

One is innocent, and the other guilty.

I don't believe in capital punishment. Government cannot be trusted to make ANY irreversible decisions and the power of life and death over it's citizens is orders of magnitude more power than it should ever be allowed to have.

That said, there are tons of MFs who need killin'. You just have to be willing to do it in the wild. Once they're captured death can't be a punishment.
 
One is innocent, and the other guilty.

I don't believe in capital punishment. Government cannot be trusted to make ANY irreversible decisions and the power of life and death over it's citizens is orders of magnitude more power than it should ever be allowed to have.

That said, there are tons of MFs who need killin'. You just have to be willing to do it in the wild. Once they're captured death can't be a punishment.

My thought EXACTLY.

Wrongful imprisonment can be (insufficiently) compensated with $$$.

Once a life is taken, it cannot be returned and no one, individual or gub'mint, has the right to make that decision.

Except in cases of immediate self defense.
 
In one respect youre correct, we do not need to be divided. On another, not so much.

My understanding is that at a Federal level, MURDER is always a crime, and thus illegal, and chargeable that way.

In this case, fuck states rights. Its murder. Same as Treason.

Your understanding is wrong. Murder is not a Federal crime.
 
18 USC 1111

NO? As stated above.

18 U.S. Code § 1111.Murder
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(a)
Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Every murder perpetrated by poison, lying in wait, or any other kind of willful, deliberate, malicious, and premeditated killing; or committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate, any arson, escape, murder, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage, aggravated sexual abuse or sexual abuse, child abuse, burglary, or robbery; or perpetrated as part of a pattern or practice of assault or torture against a child or children; or perpetrated from a premeditated design unlawfully and maliciously to effect the death of any human being other than him who is killed, is murder in the first degree.
Any other murder is murder in the second degree.
(b)
Within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
Whoever is guilty of murder in the first degree shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for life;


Clear?
 
NO? As stated above.

18 U.S. Code § 1111.Murder
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(a)
Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Every murder perpetrated by poison, lying in wait, or any other kind of willful, deliberate, malicious, and premeditated killing; or committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate, any arson, escape, murder, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage, aggravated sexual abuse or sexual abuse, child abuse, burglary, or robbery; or perpetrated as part of a pattern or practice of assault or torture against a child or children; or perpetrated from a premeditated design unlawfully and maliciously to effect the death of any human being other than him who is killed, is murder in the first degree.
Any other murder is murder in the second degree.
(b)
Within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
Whoever is guilty of murder in the first degree shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for life;


Clear?

If you find a hundred other idiots who agree with you then you will all be wrong. Your original statement: " My understanding is that at a Federal level, MURDER is always a crime, and thus illegal, and chargeable that way."

Should you desire to know the truth google "is murder a federal crime" then read enough of the results to learn that murder is a federal crime only in specific circumstances and not "always" as you have claimed. More likely you will prefer to continue you life as an ill advised ignoramus. A roll that seems to suit you well.
 
If you find a hundred other idiots who agree with you then you will all be wrong. Your original statement: " My understanding is that at a Federal level, MURDER is always a crime, and thus illegal, and chargeable that way."

Should you desire to know the truth google "is murder a federal crime" then read enough of the results to learn that murder is a federal crime only in specific circumstances and not "always" as you have claimed. More likely you will prefer to continue you life as an ill advised ignoramus. A roll that seems to suit you well.

"practice of assault or torture against a child or children "

Didnt realize I was dealing with a genius.

I wont bother to argue or debate further with that.
 
LIBERAL LOGIC: That would discourage legitimate victims from coming forward.

I do not understand how thinking that someone who tries to wreck someones life, ruin their reputation and send them to prison, bankrupt their family with legal expenses, and shame them for a crime they did not do should pay a price for that makes me a liberal. But if so then that is what I am.
 
If you are even partly correct then why arn't hundreds of abortion doctors in federal prisons? Unless you are a leftist Judge you can not simply imagine a law into being.

Because 'right', or righteousness if you prefer, has been corrupted by the SCOTUS under RvW.
 
so..... What is a young girl is raped and gets pregnant from it?
she didn't make that decision, she wasn't being irresponsible, she was a victim.
do you still feel the same way?

Start gas chambering the damned rapists when there is zero doubt given crosschecked physical DNA evidence. And do it immediately regardless of the perps circumstances and raping will darn near go away.
 
half of all rape claims are false

The false accusers start gas chambering them too if they blatantly accuse someone of rape who is innocent and is subsequently put to death. Otherwise if the accused is not already put to death then lock the false accuser up for a 50 years. Do that and that shit will stop too.
 
The date rape where the women flirts and then says stop yet the event continues. Well if it can’t be proven the woman’s consent was violated and is a he said she said thing. Then she gets to carry the innocent child to term and the impregnator gets to pay for the child the next 18 years. Do that and both women and men will stop putting themselves in risky situations.

This is not a perfect world so doing nothing because the solution isn’t perfect 100% of the time leads to less order and lawlessness.. not more perfection.
 
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Start making the derelicts pay for thier children through forced labor and turn a profit on it to pay for thier children. Maybe we’d wind up with fewer baby mommas running around with daddy so busy out working his ass off for the 1st child he walked away from.
 
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Nice thought but unlikely when hormones are raging.
Must of changed the hormones in the early 60's
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Free sex and the sexual revolution right. Take it if you can find it without any thought of the consequence or the ramifications there of. Welp here we are with millions on welfare and other millions being murdered while still in the womb. Treating sex like candy and not giving it the respect and value it derseves winds us up here. But of course that’s a prude’s outlook.
 
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Heres another.

-Consider the acorn. Left unmolested, it will in every case become a seedling, sapling, young tree, mature tree, firewood, because in every case it is 'OAK' in for,

-Now consider that the instant the sperm of a male (human) enters the egg of a female (human) left un molested it will in every case become a gamete, embryo, fetus, (not sure of that order) new born, child, adolescent, teen, young adult, adult, senior, wormfood, because in every case it is 'HUMAN' in form.

The taking of an innocent HUMAN life.

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This technology should be a game changer when it comes to the abortion debate. This and male contraceptives.
 
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well between that, machine, the roomba, and machine made fast food, trans gender take over of female sports, sex robots, we might be witnessing the end of the female human.
Think again, one man can produce millions of sperm throughout his life. A woman can only produce ~100 viable eggs throughout hers. We'll only need like 100 genetically perfect men to ensure the existence of humanity. Milk the men of their sperm, farm the women for their eggs, plant seeds in a bag and 9 months later, pop out a child that will be molded into whatever machine the ruling class wants.

Whomever controls the supply of men will rule the world. Why do you guys think toxic masculinity is a thing? Why are we quickly racing towards female empowerment OVER men? Why are we about to kick off a Civil War AND World War 3 at the same time? To find the genetically perfect men who can survive these things and kill off all the rest.
 
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i wont name call, nor make any judgements on anyone’s character.

I WILL say...to those stating what the outcome of an initially unwanted pregnancy will be...you are guessing and nothing more. You have no possible way of knowing what the final outcome will be. Nor do i.

But what i do know....unborn, and born, babies are innocent. They deserve our protection.

As far as bullshit whimsical scenarios with hot heart surgeons......you are shitting me, right?

All that bullshit aside, babies deserve our protection. Just as the old. The most vulnerable in our society, we protect. Well, right up until roe v. Wade. We are chickenshits, me included. Hell, i even allowed my first child to be aborted. So i am even a bigger asshole than the rest of you fucksticks. But it was a mistake. And i heard lots of people proclaim what would be......and none of them could have known the outcome. I’ma a great dad.
 
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abortion has been so normalized by the elites in this country, the last 45 years have been nothing but a normalization of baby killing,,,,, you could be forgiven for not thinking anything but normal, I suspect that 3 generations thought the same way....,, due to the outing the the investigations of some righteous people, Veritas etc, the Gosnell movie, the early opposers who were silenced by the MSM and their masters, things have come to light that has exposed teh true evil nature of the baby killing industry, they frikken sell baby parts and our government looks the other way,,, they killed more black babies in NYC than were live birthed, this is a goddam genocide.. the final solution of the dem party and many repubs,,, true evil people...


I look back over my life, I seen this shit get normalized, always been against it, but dam its just gotten evil and now they are taking my money and killing babies with it. this is fucked up...
 
Think again, one man can produce millions of sperm throughout his life. A woman can only produce ~100 viable eggs throughout hers. We'll only need like 100 genetically perfect men to ensure the existence of humanity. Milk the men of their sperm, farm the women for their eggs, plant seeds in a bag and 9 months later, pop out a child that will be molded into whatever machine the ruling class wants.

Whomever controls the supply of men will rule the world. Why do you guys think toxic masculinity is a thing? Why are we quickly racing towards female empowerment OVER men? Why are we about to kick off a Civil War AND World War 3 at the same time? To find the genetically perfect men who can survive these things and kill off all the rest.

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i wont name call, nor make any judgements on anyone’s character.

I WILL say...to those stating what the outcome of an initially unwanted pregnancy will be...you are guessing and nothing more. You have no possible way of knowing what the final outcome will be. Nor do i.

But what i do know....unborn, and born, babies are innocent. They deserve our protection.

As far as bullshit whimsical scenarios with hot heart surgeons......you are shitting me, right?

All that bullshit aside, babies deserve our protection. Just as the old. The most vulnerable in our society, we protect. Well, right up until roe v. Wade. We are chickenshits, me included. Hell, i even allowed my first child to be aborted. So i am even a bigger asshole than the rest of you fucksticks. But it was a mistake. And i heard lots of people proclaim what would be......and none of them could have known the outcome. I’ma a great dad.

We all make mistakes, brother.

Honestly, I shudder when I think of some of mine.

And a couple of decisions that were prevented only my divine intervention.

All you can do is resolve never to make those mistakes again and move on.
 
abortion has been so normalized by the elites in this country, the last 45 years have been nothing but a normalization of baby killing,,,,, you could be forgiven for not thinking anything but normal, I suspect that 3 generations thought the same way....,, due to the outing the the investigations of some righteous people, Veritas etc, the Gosnell movie, the early opposers who were silenced by the MSM and their masters, things have come to light that has exposed teh true evil nature of the baby killing industry, they frikken sell baby parts and our government looks the other way,,, they killed more black babies in NYC than were live birthed, this is a goddam genocide.. the final solution of the dem party and many repubs,,, true evil people...


I look back over my life, I seen this shit get normalized, always been against it, but dam its just gotten evil and now they are taking my money and killing babies with it. this is fucked up...

You are not alone in your thoughts. Its fucked up and there will be, sooner or later, (literally) hell to pay.
 
In case anyone was under the impression that their tax dollars weren't funding abortions...