Where are the tax forms? That would mean something. ?
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Where are the tax forms? That would mean something. ?
Where are the tax forms? That would mean something. ?
Income tax my friend. ?If you had any idea what you were looking at, you can see two of the TBAC brake's visible.
I stand by my statement: I try my damndest to not buy from China because I have never thought it was in the best interest of the nations economy.
You’re not well educated if you are making decisions like this. Vortex is a US company that sells stuff that benefits our nations economy. If buying from China hurts us then why is buying from “Germany, Philippines, Japan” or any other country supporting out economy? Some of the companies you laid to buy stuff are not even American companies...
Go troll someplace else...buy what you want but don’t give advise or try to explain your position when guys are looking for real advise.
As far as Germany and Japan go, WWII comes to mind.The primary difference is that the Chinese do not give 2 hoots about patent or copywrite laws. They will steal the specs and sell it. They might even sell it using your name on the counterfeit product. There are some threads even here on SH that delve into this.
Further, the Chinese do whatever they can to sabotage the USA. Can that be said about Germany? Japan?
Please, enlighten me after you troll some sites seeking knowledge. I might even ask your adviCe once you are fully up to speed.
As far as Germany and Japan go, WWII comes to mind.
But again not relevant to discussion as Vortex is not a Chinese company.
I don’t get it. So you got a bunch of poor people rifles? ?????
I don’t get it. So you got a bunch of poor people rifles? ?????
You have a great collection there and I’m jealous of how organized your safe is. Mine looks like a fucking grenade went off in it. Thanks for reminding me that I need to get some rifle rods!I am certain that a few squads would be well outfitted. Not everything is visible there and I have more than one safe and not everything has a spot in the safes.
Notice that I have never once asked anyone nor told anyone nor adviSed anyone to not buy Vortex. I expressed my convictions on trying my damndest to never buy "made in China". I saw some Vortex stuff posted that was labeled made in Japan, etc. I can honestly say that I looked and saw "made in China" the few times I looked and, quite honestly, haven't looked again in quite some time. Go buy whatever you want and more power to you. I'll stand by my conviction of doing my damndest to NOT buy "made in China".
And as I said the cheaper lines are made in china as are many other companies cheaper lines but not all are. Not even most are. That is what I was trying to make you understand.
You have a great collection there and I’m jealous of how organized your safe is. Mine looks like a fucking grenade went off in it. Thanks for reminding me that I need to get some rifle rods!
Also wondering if the Leupold Marky Mark is the special Whalberg edition.
At the very least, I would hope that you would swallow your pride and admit you were wrong and admit Vortex is not a Chinese company.Notice that I have never once asked anyone nor told anyone nor adviSed anyone to not buy Vortex. I expressed my convictions on trying my damndest to never buy "made in China". I saw some Vortex stuff posted that was labeled made in Japan, etc. I can honestly say that I looked and saw "made in China" the few times I looked and, quite honestly, haven't looked again in quite some time. Go buy whatever you want and more power to you. I'll stand by my conviction of doing my damndest to NOT buy "made in China".
Same with NF NXS and SHV series. Same with the Swarovski's I have. Same for the Zeiss.My only beef with vortex is they nickel and dime your ass on a razor. Why the hell can it just not come with a scope coat or those shitty caps that they treat like gold. Dont even get me started on a branded switchview. Jokes on me I guess, I keep buying them and then keep buying all the shit that should be included.
I understand the mis and shv series as they aren’t the flagship line.Same with NF NXS and SHV series. Same with the Swarovski's I have. Same for the Zeiss.
The primary difference is that the Chinese do not give 2 hoots about patent or copywrite laws. They will steal the specs and sell it. They might even sell it using your name on the counterfeit product. There are some threads even here on SH that delve into this.
Further, the Chinese do whatever they can to sabotage the USA. Can that be said about Germany? Japan?
Please, enlighten me after you troll some sites seeking knowledge. I might even ask your adviCe once you are fully up to speed.
Not once, go read and try for comprehension, have I ever said to only buy American.
My only beef with vortex is they nickel and dime your ass on a razor. Why the hell can it just not come with a scope coat or those shitty caps that they treat like gold. Dont even get me started on a branded switchview. Jokes on me I guess, I keep buying them and then keep buying all the shit that should be included.
That carpet is just some real cheap stuff from Home Depot.
Notice that I have never once asked anyone nor told anyone nor adviSed anyone to not buy Vortex. I expressed my convictions on trying my damndest to never buy "made in China". I saw some Vortex stuff posted that was labeled made in Japan, etc. I can honestly say that I looked and saw "made in China" the few times I looked and, quite honestly, haven't looked again in quite some time. Go buy whatever you want and more power to you. I'll stand by my conviction of doing my damndest to NOT buy "made in China".
My nx8 and mk5 come with flip caps and built in switch views. I haven’t found razors under 2k you have a link? I need 1 more for my wife’s new 6creedI have owned 8 S&B PMIIs, hensoldt, multiple USOs and multiple NF(Not SHV) and none came with flip up caps or scope coats or switch views.
The Vortex AMG does come with Defender Caps. For the price of the Razors now at well under $2000 if you shop around, it's not a big deal to spend a little more if you want add ons.
Every match I’ve been too I’ll always see a few razor g1s.I'm apparently a poor so my Razor is a gen I, but it has been a great scope for me since I bought it two years ago, before which time it was manufactured...in Japan.
I think they are comparable to other optics within their price range. A Strike Eagle won't have as nice of glass or be as durable as a Razor g2 LPVO, but durability at that price point is going to be somewhat in question regardless what you buy, and the warranty is good insurance in that case.
Usually one or more in the PXMy nx8 and mk5 come with flip caps and built in switch views. I haven’t found razors under 2k you have a link? I need 1 more for my wife’s new 6creed
I thought you meant new my mistake. I stand buy value for dollar in the razor though. I like it better than my nightforce nx8 for every feature except the stiff mag ring, nightforce moves like butter. The mk5 does to for that matter. Only the vortex is super stiff. It’s not that big of deal I suppose I usually set it at 18-20 and rarely move it throughout the dayEvery match I’ve been too I’ll always see a few razor g1s.
Usually one or more in the PX
My nx8 and mk5 come with flip caps and built in switch views. I haven’t found razors under 2k you have a link? I need 1 more for my wife’s new 6creed
I just complaining to complain. I own two of the g2’s so it doesn’t bother me enough lolYou need to call vendors to get the deals. There is MAP pricing and they can not put up prices below that but can sell for cheaper.
And I never said no scopes come with any additional items. Some do. The Razor II doesn't. If $65 in caps and a switchview is the deciding factor then guess you got to go elsewhere. Lol
I agree with this. Razor/AMG are the only reasons to go vortex.
I do know a guy who carries a few extra scopes with him when at competitions. I thought he brought them to sell, but nope, they’re “spares.” ?I didn’t mean spare scope. I meant complete rifle. When I hunt far from home, you can bet your ass I have a second rifle ready to go. ?
Generally it’s the weight, like you said. What’s funny is that most guys that I know who have said that eventually add weights or fill to make their rig heavier.I didn't take Vortex seriously until the Razor line came out. Now it's practically a benchmark in scopes. I think I read a great optics mind here stated that if their hefty weight is not an issue-there is really no reason to not buy a Razor (Gen 2).
Generally it’s the weight, like you said. What’s funny is that most guys that I know who have said that eventually add weights or fill to make their rig heavier.
Yup, or guys who wouldn't by Razor Gen 2's because of the weight, yet can't pull their wallets out fast enough to buy weights for their Bravo stocks.Exactly! I laugh when I hear people complain about the extra 10 ounces over similar scopes on the 20+ pound rifles. Lol
Right there with you. One SB has a funky parallax, 2x USOs dead on arrival, and one of my razors had to go back to be repaired. In the case of SB and Vortex the scopes were back on the gun in less than a week. USO was a joke and left me hanging for nearly 8 months.I’ve owned about 8x Gen2 Razors, 3x NF ATACR 7-35x, 1x K624i, and 2x PMs 3-27x. (Not all at once)
- Zero issues with the Gen2 razors.
- 1x ATACR new. dead on arrival due to zero clutch in operative.
- Both PM2s had parallax and one elevation issue.
- k624i CA was horrible and something was wrong with its eye relief.
Unless a company is giving you daily hand jobs, there’s no reason to ride their dick. But I get it, if you’ve had a few failed HIGH END products, then you have some justification to bash. But if you’re buying cheap shit, go fuck off somewhere else. We don’t care.
Actually have both. Razor gen 2 with open center reticle and NF Atacr 5-25 Mil XT. One is on my .308 and the other on my .223. Razor is a tad brighter but the clarity and color rendition is a bit better on the NF. The Razor has way better parallax adjustment.Get yourself a Nightfrorce ATACR FFP pricey but worth it you'll be admired by other shooters and you'll have more confident than ever.
Actually have both. Razor gen 2 with open center reticle and NF Atacr 5-25 Mil XT. One is on my .308 and the other on my .223. Razor is a tad brighter but the clarity and color rendition is a bit better on the NF. The Razor has way better parallax adjustment.