What Is Meant Exactly By, "Being Grounded" ?

[candyx]

So this is an ironic conversation, giving my previous answer, when in fact I'm an electrician that does industrial maintenance, I just take for granted everyone knows what an electical ground is.

It's the green wire .

 

[Im2bent]

OK ima gonna be that guy. Electrocuted means you died. If you did not die you were shocked. Carry on. You electricians forgot to talk about the neutral line. Also I wonder if numb nuts tried to hook up to the high voltage or did he just accidentally touch the high power. Because I think line voltage there is 120 like here?

 

[hollowoutadime]

Also I wonder if numb nuts tried to hook up to the high voltage or did he just accidentally touch the high power. Because I think line voltage there is 120 like here?

can't tell where the transformer is. doesn't look like a 120v shock (although grounding a 120v hot in the panel will cause a hell of a flash.)

 

[Im2bent]

Reason I brought it up is the plasma that formed toward the end of the video that takes some serious voltage. By the way boys and girls the power lines feeding the transformers are carrying around 110000 volts or more depending on distance.

 

[candyx]

I think the video started after he was dead would of been something to see the first arc jump.

 

[rady]

OK ima gonna be that guy. Electrocuted means you died. If you did not die you were shocked. Carry on. You electricians forgot to talk about the neutral line. Also I wonder if numb nuts tried to hook up to the high voltage or did he just accidentally touch the high power. Because I think line voltage there is 120 like here?

Not true.............Being electrocuted does not mean that you are dead in all cases. Severe injury FROM electrocution can also happen , by definition.
For most of the U.S. line voltage usually refers to that which is present at the pole or transmission tower. For many residential customers, line voltage is around 7200 volts to ground. At the transformer, it is stepped down to 240 volts phase to phase and 120 volts phase to neutral. That's why on many installations you see the three conductors. Two insulated (phases) and the neutral. The neutral is grounded at the pole along with guy wires. This will depend on how a regions electric service is configured. Some are delta, most are wye. People have been electrocuted touching a guy wire.

In the home, the neutral is bonded to an earth ground. Grounds in the home circuitry are only connected to the neutral at the service panel of the home. Neutrals should never be connected to grounds except at the service panel, other wise you are liable to experience stray voltage problems.

Reason I brought it up is the plasma that formed toward the end of the video that takes some serious voltage. By the way boys and girls the power lines feeding the transformers are carrying around 110000 volts or more depending on distance.

Simply not true on the 110,000 volts for power distribution if you talking about what is on the residential tranformer. Most substations take a range of 34Kv to upwards of 765kv from incoming transmission lines. These are the lines running from generating facilities in most cases. It is at the substation that the the transmission voltages are lowered by large transformers for distribution to industrial, commercial, and residential customers. For instance, 12kv for 3 phase ( phase to phase, 7200v phase to ground/neutral ).

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

A guy down the road has high voltage towers through part of his property and he doesn't have a charger on his cattle fence. It will put your dick in the dirt if you touch them.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

A few years ago we were wiring a house. The panel box was completed and we were waiting for the power company to connect to the house weather head. We ran a temporary cord to the neighbors house for power to the box. A plumber was under the house and every once in a while I would hear him Yelp. I asked him what the problem was and he said that when he touches the water lines he was getting shocked. I checked the cord and the outlet on the neighbors house was wired wrong. So that the neutral was hot and it was bonded to the water lines.

 

[Near miss]

I think the guy in succeeded in stealing the light. For a moment he was giving a light show to the whole street.

 

[lightman]

Something that I should have mentioned in my previous post was that that helicopter pilots skill should have been recognized.

 

[Maggot]

One of the ski runs at Stevens Pass in Washington state goes under a set of high tension lines. The day I was skiing there, there was a heavy mist/fog in the air. You could hear the "sizzle" from the lines as you skied underneath. Pretty unnerving...

Yep, as I posted earlier, I was clearing high power lines with an air saw and could feel the electrons moving. Packed up and went home, FTS

 

[Maggot]

OK ima gonna be that guy. Electrocuted means you died. If you did not die you were shocked. Carry on. You electricians forgot to talk about the neutral line. Also I wonder if numb nuts tried to hook up to the high voltage or did he just accidentally touch the high power. Because I think line voltage there is 120 like here?

Looks like he's on an aluminum ladder for crying out loud.

 

[Ravenworks]

Looks like he's on an aluminum ladder for crying out loud.

It's a third world shithole country and he's stealing so yeah karma

 

[Im2bent]

Not true.............Being electrocuted does not mean that you are dead in all cases. Severe injury FROM electrocution can also happen , by definition.
For most of the U.S. line voltage usually refers to that which is present at the pole or transmission tower. For many residential customers, line voltage is around 7200 volts to ground. At the transformer, it is stepped down to 240 volts phase to phase and 120 volts phase to neutral. That's why on many installations you see the three conductors. Two insulated (phases) and the neutral. The neutral is grounded at the pole along with guy wires. This will depend on how a regions electric service is configured. Some are delta, most are wye. People have been electrocuted touching a guy wire.

In the home, the neutral is bonded to an earth ground. Grounds in the home circuitry are only connected to the neutral at the service panel of the home. Neutrals should never be connected to grounds except at the service panel, other wise you are liable to experience stray voltage problems.

Simply not true on the 110,000 volts for power distribution if you talking about what is on the residential tranformer. Most substations take a range of 34Kv to upwards of 765kv from incoming transmission lines. These are the lines running from generating facilities in most cases. It is at the substation that the the transmission voltages are lowered by large transformers for distribution to industrial, commercial, and residential customers. For instance, 12kv for 3 phase ( phase to phase, 7200v phase to ground/neutral ).

I stand corrected as far as voltage levels but....

Electrocution Vs Shock: What's The Difference?

An experienced electrocution lawyer explains the difference between electrocution vs shock and the different medical and legal implications

www.electrocuted.com

 

[candyx]

A guy down the road has high voltage towers through part of his property and he doesn't have a charger on his cattle fence. It will put your dick in the dirt if you touch them.

You can get free power, people have put large reels of wire in the barns and it sucks power off the high voltage wires.

 

[theLBC]

that ain't all they steal

 

[candyx]

that ain't all they steal

Looks like the Carne Asada is burnt......

 

[uffduh]

You can get free power, people have put large reels of wire in the barns and it sucks power off the high voltage wires.

And folks are worried about 5G!

 

[Im2bent]

that ain't all they steal

Even more gruesome footage of that event damn not a good way to go. I guess no one ever taught them stop,drop,roll.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

It's the green wire .

Or the bare one…

 

[theLBC]

Even more gruesome footage of that event damn not a good way to go. I guess no one ever taught them stop,drop,roll.

yeah, i was gonna post that one, but it makes you click it.

 

[rady]

I stand corrected as far as voltage levels but....

Electrocution Vs Shock: What's The Difference?

An experienced electrocution lawyer explains the difference between electrocution vs shock and the different medical and legal implications

www.electrocuted.com

Well if you want to quote a law firm that specializes in suits involving electrocution, then go to it. Oh and btw, aren't lawyers the ones telling us today that boys can be girls and that Anna Nicole married for love? Lawyers constantly will pervert the English language and convert black to white so as to confuse stupid jurors that they are right.

I can just as easily direct you to the definition for electrocution from wiki and the Merriam Webster:

Electrocution is death or severe injury by electric shock, electric current passing through the body. The word is derived from "electro" and "execution", but it is also used for accidental death.

elec·tro·cute | \ i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
\

electrocuted; electrocuting

Definition of electrocute​

transitive verb


1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock

 

[billt]

Question. If electricity is considered to be the flow of electrons passing through the body, (much the same way these electrons pass over or through a wire in your house), are electrons matter? By that I mean "stuff" that all things are made from?

As I came to understand it in science class, all things are made up of atoms. Parts of the atom are electrons, neutrons, and protons. So are electrons actual matter in the sense of the word? When you get shocked, it sure as hell feels like "stuff" is flowing through your body. Or am I wrong? I mean you can't put a pile of electricity on the table, and have matter. But if you have enough atoms of whatever, you have "stuff". So what's the difference?

 

[candyx]

 

[Im2bent]

Well if you want to quote a law firm that specializes in suits involving electrocution, then go to it. Oh and btw, aren't lawyers the ones telling us today that boys can be girls and that Anna Nicole married for love? Lawyers constantly will pervert the English language and convert black to white so as to confuse stupid jurors that they are right.

I can just as easily direct you to the definition for electrocution from wiki and the Merriam Webster:

Electrocution is death or severe injury by electric shock, electric current passing through the body. The word is derived from "electro" and "execution", but it is also used for accidental death.

elec·tro·cute | \ i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
\

electrocuted; electrocuting

Definition of electrocute​

transitive verb


1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock

Here's the thing I'll take a legal definition that holds up in court over wiki that anyone can edit, and webster says mRNAs are vaccines.
Your turn.

 

[Maggot]

Question. If electricity is considered to be the flow of electrons passing through the body, (much the same way these electrons pass over or through a wire in your house), are electrons matter? By that I mean "stuff" that all things are made from?

As I came to understand it in science class, all things are made up of atoms. Parts of the atom are electrons, neutrons, and protons. So are electrons actual matter in the sense of the word? When you get shocked, it sure as hell feels like "stuff" is flowing through your body. Or am I wrong? I mean you can't put a pile of electricity on the table, and have matter. But if you have enough atoms of whatever, you have "stuff". So what's the difference?

Im not a scientist but Ill give a try. By my primitive understanding they are some where in between. While an electron is called a charged particle its not, by itself, matter as we think of matter. There is far more space in an atom than anything else. Beyond electrons, protons, and neutrons, they break down into quarks, and even further, as I heard one physicist put it, into 'fluctuating space' WTF ever that is, sort of fluctuating between existence and non existence, at least in the physical sense. If some one can give it a better shot, Im all ears.

Try this:

Quark - Wikipedia​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Quark



A quark is a type of elementary particle and a fundamental constituent of matter. Quarks combine to form composite particles called hadrons, the most stable ...

 

[rady]

I can just as easily find another legal source that will again show the ambivalence of the term electrocution:

https://www.vargaslawoffice.com/injuries/electrocution-injuries/

Again, as in my first post (read it again as you seem to be stuck on stupid on just about everything involving electricity), I stated "by definition," If I were a lawyer, you just lost the case since there appears to be differing opinions in the real world and the legal world. You want to nit pick, then stupid is as stupid does.

Here's the thing I'll take a legal definition that holds up in court over wiki that anyone can edit, and webster says mRNAs are vaccines.
Your turn.

Oh, and here is another source:

https://emtprep.com/free-training/post/electrocution-injuries-identification-assessment-and-treatment.

Given the choice between a lawyer and an EMT and their value to mankind, I'll take the EMT