I agree with moosemeat. The larger Hide is missing out on this thread; please move to the bear pit.
If the admin didn't think that 3400 FPS rounds that have M80 drop that explode torsos were in fact ineffectual, then he would move it over to the pit.
It goes against everything you have been taught.
Like running TOWARDs gunfire. We all know that you are supposed to run into gunfire.
With these rounds it doesn't even matter if you get hit in the thighs or shoulder....you are probably done. It's like getting hit by a birdshot 12 ga cutshell at 1100fps. What's going g to happen if you get hin in the belt buckle with a 12 ga cutshell?
Intestines gone. Paralyzed. No pelvis. Can't walk. Never can probably walk again even with hope. Shit everywhere. Buddies don't want to try and save you. Probably DRT or gone from PTSD later on. All this in an AR10 package.All this from widening an SR25 mag by 1-2mm to fit 20 rounds. Will have to mark them with different symbols because they will visually look identical to the .308 mags.
In the A.P. loadout (80$ per round) the can penetrate as good as 173 grain 8mm Mauser K rounds from WW2. Plates at 300m and goes through apcs. Go make mincemeat out of most SWAT F450 Van's outside CONUS. Still you get the 12 gauga blast Affect of the m80s1 or 12 ga birdshot round.
Trevor Hailey once said. Man I was on that roof all day it was a turkey shoot. Wish I have more stopping power then 77s but the mk262 drop is fine.. Well here it is.
Some people may say....well 6.5 Creedmore has
1990 vel @ 600 and yours has only 1650.
Well would you rather take a 3 inch shell full of tungsten birdshot @ 1670 to the neck...contact shot....point blank???......or a toothpick 6.5 wound to the neck. Won't even probably open up.
With .375 your gone man. Done.
If I were unleashed upon the 2024 shot show with TVs and DVds showing exploding fruits and torsos. I know I could sell this. You need the visual. Not the drop charts.