Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

Tomcat

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I am currently using Unique and W231 for my 9mm and 45 loads. It is somewhat dirty. I've heard that there are other powders that are considerably cleaner, such as the Accurate 7 and 15 (I think).
I haven't tried these, but what are some of the cleaner pistol powders to use in 9 and 45?

Tomcat
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

Interested to hear also. I use Unique cause it works so well in both calibers. The "New Cleaner Burning" Unique isn't that bad, but if something else performs as well or better AND burns cleaner, I'm all ears.

As an aside, I used to use HS6 and it left all sorts of unburnt powder in the barrel.

**Edited to Add**

My use is for moderate to low velocity loads for USPSA/IDPA/etc. My days of loading hot for these two calibers have passed.
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

I run Bullseye and it burns clean enough for my liking in both 9mm an d.45. Try to find some HP38 if you like soft rounds. In .45 HP38 gives some killer soft rounds that shoot really well. I couldn't believe how soft they shot when I tried some. HP38 is good for .38 special and other ACP cartridges like .380 too.
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

I use winchester 231 in both, have you tried loading a little hotter? Sometimes a light load will burn dirty. I use 5.7 grains under a 230 roundnose plated powerbond bullet, replicates factory loaded 230's at around 830 fps and shoots clean
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

Chalk another one up for Titegroup.

I love it. It is very clean in everything I've tried it in, which includes 45acp, 10mm, 38spl and even 500 SW mag.

It is very clean, and only leaves a black smudge on one spot of the case, by the casemouth. It meters great, is cheap, and will load nearly any pistol. It is designed to be tolerant of its position in the case. I have tested that with the chrono, with my Smith 500, by checking velocity after tipping the pistol forward/down, and then checking velocity after tipping back/up. 17.5gr is a max load in the Smith, meanwhile the case could potentially hold over 50gr, so it is a good test of the effect of powder position. I found no difference in velocity.

That brings up the only 2 negatives (as far as I'm concerned) with Titegroup:

1. VERY LOW charge density. In nearly every application, you can fit WAY WAY WAY too much of this powder in the case. If you are squeamish about double charges (as we all should be), and are afraid of a powder that doesn't take up much room, TG isn't your powder.

2. It does not achieve top velocity in many cartridges. While it will work for nearly any pistol caliber (I can't think of one it won't work in), it usually ends up being low-performance. Case in point: The SW 500 mag. With 42gr H110, you can hit 1900+fps with a 350gr bullet. With 17.5gr TG, it goes about 1300. Almost 500 Special, honestly. However, TG achieves great velocity in 45acp.

Another clean powder for 45 is IMR 700x, which is very simlar to TG.
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">N320 is so clean that brass hardly needs tumbling, but I don't know if it will work in 9 and 45 </div></div>

+1 and also try VV N310
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Definitely NOT Unique... I suspect that stuff is just nitrated dirt.




I've heard really good things about Power Pistol and Clays. </div></div>

Had a friend that loaded a bunch of .357 and .38 with Unique. Came out really dirty and there was lots of unburned flakes everywhere.
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">N320 is so clean that brass hardly needs tumbling, but I don't know if it will work in 9 and 45 </div></div>

2+ For VihtaVuori N 320 super clean!
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

Great, I just bought 4 lbs of power pistol.
I was looking for something cleaner than unique.
The load data looks good for 9,40,45 and 44 mag with high muzzle velocity.
What did you dislike about power pistol?
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

i'm using 4.8 wst with 200gr swc or flat nose in 45acp for idpa, with good results. i like 231 in 45acp/45 colt/44mag for lower velocity cast bullet loads, have tried 231 in 9mm w/125gr cast bullets with fair results as well. hard to make one powder do all, especially if you're trying to reach varying pressure levels with broad range of powder capacities, but it is possible with some discipline.
 
Re: Whats a clean powder for 45 and 9?

I'd try WST. I use it in 45 ACP, 38 super, and 38 special with great results. It burns cleaner than 231, Unique, Bulls-eye, and other comparable powders in this range. I can not speak for Clays or VV but, they are suppose to be good as well.

If you're seeing smoke, it's normally cause from lead bullets & bullet lube.

Paul