I called Jamison International to inquire about some .408 ammo. The website said "unavailable", so I asked about an ETA. The lady I spoke with said they're no longer able to sell it and said I would have to get it through Chey-Tac. I thought "Chey-Tac" went bankrupt and are no longer in business... I asked about Thor Defense Group and she only said Chey-Tac. She seemed to be fairly quick and abrupt on the phone and our conversation didn't seem to go anywhere. Anyone know what is going on?
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What's going on with Jamison International?
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Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
Krecon,
The Jamison and Cheytac situation is "legal posturing".
Ammunition is available at several other sources. Some with the 419gr solid and some with other solids.
Thanks
Krecon,
The Jamison and Cheytac situation is "legal posturing".
Ammunition is available at several other sources. Some with the 419gr solid and some with other solids.
Thanks
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
Yeah I tried the Jamison website earlier - no longer on the web.... So, who will be the main supplier of brass/bullets now for .408? Or is this caliber quickly becoming a defunct cartridge?
Yeah I tried the Jamison website earlier - no longer on the web.... So, who will be the main supplier of brass/bullets now for .408? Or is this caliber quickly becoming a defunct cartridge?
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
I know it would be a bunch of work ,but I would even try working down 505 Gibbs. Now try to find them lately
I know it would be a bunch of work ,but I would even try working down 505 Gibbs. Now try to find them lately
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
I think Bertram brass is going to be sending a large order to one of there distrubuters here in the US.
I think Bertram brass is going to be sending a large order to one of there distrubuters here in the US.
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
The brass is clearly the weakest link in this supply chain. Back several years ago I was talked out of building a Chey-Tac because of the brass quality at the time. Then it got a bit better, but again is on the cliff. I hope the Bertram brass delivery is reality.
Reamers and barrels are readily made, as are actions large enough to handle the cartridge. I have a P-Chey Barnard action that I was planning on building out. Given this news, I will yet again stuff it in the back of my safe and see what happens.
Jeffvn
The brass is clearly the weakest link in this supply chain. Back several years ago I was talked out of building a Chey-Tac because of the brass quality at the time. Then it got a bit better, but again is on the cliff. I hope the Bertram brass delivery is reality.
Reamers and barrels are readily made, as are actions large enough to handle the cartridge. I have a P-Chey Barnard action that I was planning on building out. Given this news, I will yet again stuff it in the back of my safe and see what happens.
Jeffvn
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
Good Morning,
There are literally dozens of different projectiles you can get. They range from aluminum tipped jacketed to some very very hard monolithics and everything inbetween.
I will be talking to a brass manufacture TODAY in regards to having them tool up for me.
Thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zipollini</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is Cheytec still selling their M200 ? If so - who is making the parts ?</div></div>
Zip--What "parts" are you referring to?
Thanks
Good Morning,
There are literally dozens of different projectiles you can get. They range from aluminum tipped jacketed to some very very hard monolithics and everything inbetween.
I will be talking to a brass manufacture TODAY in regards to having them tool up for me.
Thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zipollini</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is Cheytec still selling their M200 ? If so - who is making the parts ?</div></div>
Zip--What "parts" are you referring to?
Thanks
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ThorGDG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good Morning,
I will be talking to a brass manufacture TODAY in regards to having them tool up for me.
Thanks </div></div>
Please keep us posted.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ThorGDG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good Morning,
I will be talking to a brass manufacture TODAY in regards to having them tool up for me.
Thanks </div></div>
Please keep us posted.
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
The Bertram Brass can`t handle the pressure that the 2 star Jamison could so reduce your powder charge. If you own a 408 that Cheytac sells, have the headspace checked. Some came out with as much as .030 bad headspace. Making 408 brass from 505 Gibbs brass is not a good idea, it can`t handle the pressure either, as the webb is not as strong. Good luck finding brass. Glad I just purchased 900 pieces.
The Bertram Brass can`t handle the pressure that the 2 star Jamison could so reduce your powder charge. If you own a 408 that Cheytac sells, have the headspace checked. Some came out with as much as .030 bad headspace. Making 408 brass from 505 Gibbs brass is not a good idea, it can`t handle the pressure either, as the webb is not as strong. Good luck finding brass. Glad I just purchased 900 pieces.
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
I looked on midway , was able to order 200 of Jammison 408 Brass I have to bump the neck , plus anneal to get down to 338.
One thing there where not able to tell me what was on the headstamp.
Oh they where on closeout specical because Jamisons demise.
So if reload here you go
I looked on midway , was able to order 200 of Jammison 408 Brass I have to bump the neck , plus anneal to get down to 338.
One thing there where not able to tell me what was on the headstamp.
Oh they where on closeout specical because Jamisons demise.
So if reload here you go
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
Norma's new run (Sept 2011) of .505 brass was designed for .408 as well and capable of withstanding Cheytac pressures. Unfortunately you will probably not see it in the US before next year unless Euro opticts precieves that there is sufficient demand to put in an urgent order
It is consievable that we (Norma) could make .408 and we re-designed our .505 brass for just that possibility but we cannot do small runs of cases - a minimum run would need to be about 46,000 or so
Norma's new run (Sept 2011) of .505 brass was designed for .408 as well and capable of withstanding Cheytac pressures. Unfortunately you will probably not see it in the US before next year unless Euro opticts precieves that there is sufficient demand to put in an urgent order
It is consievable that we (Norma) could make .408 and we re-designed our .505 brass for just that possibility but we cannot do small runs of cases - a minimum run would need to be about 46,000 or so
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dominique</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are some documents about Jamison International :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68615946/Greenwich-Ballistics-v-Jamison-International </div></div>
Yeah, a little bit of a mess there. Looks like we (hide' guys and elsewhere) bought out all of Midway USA's remaining 100 count boxes of JI .408 brass. Enough other companies out there making .408 bullets, but I don't know how they stack up to the JI 419gr bullet....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dominique</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are some documents about Jamison International :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/68615946/Greenwich-Ballistics-v-Jamison-International </div></div>
Yeah, a little bit of a mess there. Looks like we (hide' guys and elsewhere) bought out all of Midway USA's remaining 100 count boxes of JI .408 brass. Enough other companies out there making .408 bullets, but I don't know how they stack up to the JI 419gr bullet....
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
Yeah ! I bought 400ct brass from them last week … And I agree that there are more people out there producing 408cal bullets . I also heard that there's a bullet out there with a 1.003 b.c confirmed. That'll be interesting .
Yeah ! I bought 400ct brass from them last week … And I agree that there are more people out there producing 408cal bullets . I also heard that there's a bullet out there with a 1.003 b.c confirmed. That'll be interesting .
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 0481</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish someone owed me that much money.</div></div>
You probably meant to say "wish somebody <span style="font-weight: bold">paid</span> me that much money"?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 0481</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish someone owed me that much money.</div></div>
You probably meant to say "wish somebody <span style="font-weight: bold">paid</span> me that much money"?
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dominique</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I also heard that there's a bullet out there with a 1.003 b.c confirmed. That'll be interesting .</div></div>
That would be the T50 long range match that hunting shack munitions has advertised
I have thousand rounds ordered and will check for myself!!
They should be receiving the brass shipment this week from what they told me this morning.
Thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dominique</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I also heard that there's a bullet out there with a 1.003 b.c confirmed. That'll be interesting .</div></div>
That would be the T50 long range match that hunting shack munitions has advertised
I have thousand rounds ordered and will check for myself!!
They should be receiving the brass shipment this week from what they told me this morning.
Thanks
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
last I saw some folks were liquidating large amounts of brass, and others are buying from private sellers. Good luck
Jeffvn
last I saw some folks were liquidating large amounts of brass, and others are buying from private sellers. Good luck
Jeffvn
Re: What's going on with Jamison International?
Jamison is back.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012...f-captech-intl/
Jamison is back.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012...f-captech-intl/
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