Wheels coming off Assad regime

i think this is 12 years ago, or about the same time they claimed assad was using chemical weapons. no real proof ever found.


Thank you for this, I have never seen it. It sort of makes the same point. Here is what video is from. It is part of a (CIA/Journo) roadshow looking for cash for Israel.

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The Washington Institute for Near East Policy is quite little spot too. The Leadership (esp Ross / Signh / Stout) read look like they float from NeoCon Administration / Bureaucracy to MIC to Think Tank.

This video is from a victory rally after passing the US Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act just a couple months before.
 
all this building greater israel stuff is gonna jam us up. the belief that israel controls much of the USG is looking more real to me. or,is the US using israel as a stalking horse to gain back door control of more of ME? the disconnect between needing ME oil and getting our own here is just not making sense. so,another agenda has to be on the table. seems our neocons want control and power for their own sake. takes away the claim that we are the good guys. getting turned into ash as a result is worrisome. i just can't see any rational goal for any of this. hard to admit or believe that my society,country,civilization is responsible for most of the worlds problems. but???

It baffles me that we seem to always put Israel interests in front of even our own.

Something is going on there.
 
all this building greater israel stuff is gonna jam us up. the belief that israel controls much of the USG is looking more real to me. or,is the US using israel as a stalking horse to gain back door control of more of ME? the disconnect between needing ME oil and getting our own here is just not making sense. so,another agenda has to be on the table. seems our neocons want control and power for their own sake. takes away the claim that we are the good guys. getting turned into ash as a result is worrisome. i just can't see any rational goal for any of this. hard to admit or believe that my society,country,civilization is responsible for most of the worlds problems. but???
many of our politicians are dual citizens, others are ethically and intellectually compromised, and most of them worship satan.
 

Russia ‘close to agreeing deal with Syria rebels to keep military bases’​



So Russia is negotiating with the extremists the US has been supporting to keep their naval base.
 

Russia ‘close to agreeing deal with Syria rebels to keep military bases’​



So Russia is negotiating with the extremists the US has been supporting to keep their naval base.

Much like during our "disastrous withdrawal" from Afghanistan, the Russians and the Chinese didn't have any problems...

New extremists know they need money because money runs everything.
They know all that money from the CIA / MIC is not going to be there long now that we had our fun
So they need backup sources of funding to keep their wives living comfortably in Paris and London.
 
Israel is burning down a stockpile on one end and Turks are bombing Kurds when they stock on SAA arms.
Not much but droped Aks left
This guy claims Israel took out around 90% of Syrian Air Defense. The pansirs and SA17(buks) are basically gone.


Also claims the S 400 is being moved out of Russia’s base
Among other stuff.

 
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That basically follows the route of the trans Arabian pipe line which has been off since Jordan supported Iraq in the 1990 invasion, never used since.

And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” war
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That basically follows the route of the trans Arabian pipe line which has been off since Jordan supported Iraq in the 1990 invasion, never used since.

And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” warView attachment 8568288


I agree it's not a pipeline war. It's a war on behalf of Israel's interests. That's why we are involved, and also to weaken Russia by proxy.

Though if countries/economies are going to get a pipeline out of it, it's an easier sell for some.
 
That basically follows the route of the trans Arabian pipe line which has been off since Jordan supported Iraq in the 1990 invasion, never used since.

And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” warView attachment 8568288

that's spin, jmo. what pipeline did the kingdom stop? give us an example.
mostly it comes down to transport fees...which is why turkey was so happy to help mcstain, graham and clinton to smuggle arms to the muslim brotherhood to kick things off.
would not argue that there could be various other reasons for regime change, like hurting iran or helping israel.

it isn't like assad was more of a danger to israel than the terrorists that now rule, but it gave israel a chance to destroy so much of the syrian defenses and offensive capabilities. now they can continue to act with relative impunity.
 
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that's spin, jmo. what pipeline did the kingdom stop? give us an example.
mostly it comes down to transport fees...which is why turkey was so happy to help mcstain, graham and clinton to smuggle arms to the muslim brotherhood to kick things off.
would not argue that there could be various other reasons for regime change, like hurting iran or helping israel.

it isn't like assad was more of a danger to israel than the terrorists that now rule, but it gave israel a chance to destroy so much of the syrian defenses and offensive capabilities. now they can continue to act with relative impunity.
It was an idea that never came to fruition, if you read the link I posted above they explain it.

Here read this. https://truthout.org/articles/the-war-against-the-assad-regime-is-not-a-pipeline-war/
 
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I agree it's not a pipeline war. It's a war on behalf of Israel's interests. That's why we are involved, and also to weaken Russia by proxy.

Though if countries/economies are going to get a pipeline out of it, it's an easier sell for some.
They were allowing Iran to pump weapons into the area, making their way into the hands of Hezbolla, who then attacked Israel… so it’s not like they didn’t ask for it.

Middle East ain’t Sesame Street.
 
They were allowing Iran to pump weapons into the area, making their way into the hands of Hezbolla, who then attacked Israel… so it’s not like they didn’t ask for it.

Middle East ain’t Sesame Street.

What happens next is likely not going to make the situation any better. And it's certainly not in our interests to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists.
 
What happens next is likely not going to make the situation any better. And it's certainly not in our interests to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists.
It's not in anybody's interest to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists, not just in ME but globally. The ME is a powder keg and the fk show that Syria is turning into is the fuse. The absolutely horrible foreign policy of the present administration is the root cause.
 
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It's not in anybody's interest to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists, not just in ME but globally. The ME is a powder keg and the fk show that Syria is turning into is the fuse. The absolutely horrible foreign policy of the present administration is the root cause.

I agree.

I have a really bad feeling about this Syria situation. For some reason, this one sits even less well with me than Ukraine. The current trajectory of escalation of events around the globe is not a comforting one. And to see our government so happy to make and support such escalations and provocations is incredibly worrisome.
 
It was an idea that never came to fruition, if you read the link I posted above they explain it.

Here read this. https://truthout.org/articles/the-war-against-the-assad-regime-is-not-a-pipeline-war/
but it was british petroleum

i do agree with this part...

The US decision to support Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia in their ill-conceived plan to overthrow the Assad regime was primarily a function of the primordial interest of the US permanent war state in its regional alliances. The three Sunni allies control US access to the key US military bases in the region, and the Pentagon, the CIA, the State Department and the Obama White House were all concerned, above all, with protecting the existing arrangements for the US military posture in the region.
 
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It's not in anybody's interest to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists, not just in ME but globally. The ME is a powder keg and the fk show that Syria is turning into is the fuse. The absolutely horrible foreign policy of the present administration is the root cause.

It's absolutely in the interests of the ones doing the orchestration.
They want destabilization in the area. It helps them funnel money back into their own accounts. It's been that way for decades.
 
Now we see the goal state and cia we’re working toward.

When the CIA came into existence, it's very first operations were regime change operations to benefit Western corporations. This was the Dulles' brothers modus operandi.

The first two ops were to overthrow the Iranian government (in a joint operation with the Brits), as they were going to nationalize their oilfields, and to overthrow the Guatemalan government as they were going to nationalize the United Fruit Companies banana plantations to give back to the locals.

In this specific situation, I don't think this regime change op is specifically about a pipeline. Though allegedly this has been a focus in the past. Certainly is a nice bonus though.

I think this is more a concerted effort to strengthen western military position in the region while simultaneously weakening Russia's and Iran's.
 
When the CIA came into existence, it's very first operations were regime change operations to benefit Western corporations. This was the Dulles' brothers modus operandi.

The first two ops were to overthrow the Iranian government (in a joint operation with the Brits), as they were going to nationalize their oilfields, and to overthrow the Guatemalan government as they were going to nationalize the United Fruit Companies banana plantations to give back to the locals.

In this specific situation, I don't think this regime change op is specifically about a pipeline. Though allegedly this has been a focus in the past. Certainly is a nice bonus though.

I think this is more a concerted effort to strengthen western military position in the region while simultaneously weakening Russia's and Iran's.
It seems counterproductive to be financing “rebels” that are fighting each other, no?
 
It seems counterproductive to be financing “rebels” that are fighting each other, no?

I don't think there's consistency or coherency in our foreign adventurism.

And a lot of it is compartmentalized. The State Department is funding one side for their own goals, while the CIA is funding another.

I think these Intel agencies, especially the CIA, do their own things with no real oversight or accountability. And sometimes those things are counter to what other government agencies and departments are doing. They seem out of control.
 
I think these Intel agencies, especially the CIA, do their own things with no real oversight or accountability.

Bureaucracy perpetuates itself. The Pentagon has 30k-35k employees. The FBI has 40k-50k, CIA probably 30k, hooray for our very own secret police. There are ~10k secretaries and gofers working for Congress on Capitol Hill. Another 3k or so at the White House. The Department of Agriculture probably has 120-150k total over all 50 states. The department of education has 4k-5k people and all they do is decide how much money each state gets, testing standards etc.
 
Now we see the goal state and cia we’re working toward.
Don’t lose sight of the south and the plans for it. The canal would cause more problems in that area that most would admit as it would seriously impact GDP of other countries.

Everyone has gotta pay attention to the details as it is apparent that a lot of the moves lately have been in the works for more than a decade, on multiple fronts in multiple countries.

 
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