What's complete bullshit? I made the assumption that being able to shoot a handful of groups at .3 out of say a set of 15 and I call that a .3 rifle. I made a wrong assumption and admitted it. So move on. That's great youre a better shooter than me, I am sure I am a better boxer than you.
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Ok first off>>> tonsofguns<<<you need to just go back and lick your wounds and stop stating facts that are just complete bullshit...
PADOM is a "PRECISION" AR Shooter and so am I, and Elfster. We know what it is to shoot ARs Big and Small Block consistently at .5-.25 MOA.
Now Samnev IMO for as long as I have seen him, and read from his words is more of a Military/Battle Steel Ringer Shooter.. so different strokes for different folks... And it's quite clear from his above statement, about the that Les Bear and LaRue performing about the same, which has absolutely nothing to do with the guns it just proves that Samnev is a point .75 -.5 MOA shooter at his best and that is his capabilities. Which is very respectable. ... About 80% of the public, even after years of shooting can't even perform an 1 MOA 6x5 so just take that into context.
Now what I can tell you... And back to your original question about the rifle and not the shooters opinion.
These are the three most accurate rifles on the market right now, ..possibly four?....
(1) Custom Build by a AR Master Smith...(too many details to cover in one post)
(2) Les Baer DOES make the most accurate rifles on the market is terms of PURE ACCURACY NOT ACCURACY AND RELIABILITY THERE IS A VERY DELICATE LINE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
(3) JP LRP07.. this is where you find the sub .75 MOA accuracy with unwavering reliability. From EVERY JP Complete Built JP LRP07 rifle, and you're also gonna get a strong Mexican Standoff, due to these rifles performing about the same, just having different characteristics and features which are the OBR and the KAC SR25 APR.
(4) Now the new 4th possible runner-up is the Falkor Petra Rifles with the Draco's barrels... They are quite literally a aerospace engineering company who has decided to make firearms, and they are redefining the way Firearms work as we speak and are producing barrels with lifetime warranties which is absolutely unheard of!! And with quarter to half MOA guarantees.
So IMO 100% Buy the JP LRP07 with the new 22" +2 Barrel and custom tune it with some hand loads to keep her at .5 MOA.
The reason I say for you to pick the middle choice is because it's quite clear that you're new to this and you're also not going to be proficient semi-automatic shooter, because if you were you wouldn't have posted this thread. people who are half - quarter MOA shooters are well-versed in the AR world, which is something that takes time and discipline way above anything you have to do with the bolt action gun.
I hope you find your way OP, and if you need anything more then that from me or Padom just ask... And Rambo .... I'm mean Samnev
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