Who do you like for the National Championship game

#101
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

UA was clearly the most dominant team in the nation... OSU fans can cry all they want, but the BCS system we have is what we have, and the two best teams in the nation played for it all. Just because OSU didn't get a chance to sneak in doesn't change anything.

The fact that they had to play each other twice means nothing. Until college football goes to a playoff system, you have to accept the system you have.
 
#102
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Now that Alabama has won, they are tied with LSU. Now LSU should get the chance to play Alabama at Baton Rouge. Alabama got to play on it's home field and lost. Alabama won the neutral site game. </div></div>

LSU doesn't want no more of UA.... The whole team is probably in therapy this week.
 
#103
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's a joke is thinking that an OSU team that BARELY eeked out a win against Stanford would have had a chance against LSU.</div></div>

Doesn't matter what you THINK, they should have gotten the chance. </div></div>


Well in that case I want a chance to be President of the United States!!! Do I meet the qualifications? No. Do I know how to run the country? No.

But damnit I should get the chance!!




Please, dude. You have no idea what you are talking about! Big 12 couldn't hang with the top 3 SEC teams, period. Look at the ass whippings we have handed out for the past 6 years
 
#105
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">UA was clearly the most dominant team in the nation... OSU fans can cry all they want, but the BCS system we have is what we have, and the two best teams in the nation played for it all. Just because OSU didn't get a chance to sneak in doesn't change anything.

The fact that they had to play each other twice means nothing. Until college football goes to a playoff system, you have to accept the system you have.</div></div>

They weren't clearly anything before the game. It had to be settled on the field. Every source had LSU a favorite. How did that work out? They lost.

All the more reason the title game should never be between teams from the same conference.
 
#106
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
wanna talk about polls, over 50% of college football fans surveyed said there should never be a re-match in the title game. </div></div>

Yet, in all fairness, if the shoe were on the other foot and it was an OU/OSU NC rematch game or better yet....Iowa State/OSU NC rematch game I'd be willing to bet you (and the "over 50% of college football fans" who if posed with a similar situation with "their" team) would be claiming that it is only right for the top two teams to play. And you/they would be exactly right.

The NC is for the two best ranked teams to compete, not the best ranked teams from two different conferences.

I don't care if it were the PAC, ACC, or Big 10. Two teams cannot help that they are the two best ranked teams. Furthermore, they cannot help if they are in the same conference. This year was a fluke that probably might not ever happen again.

And LSU will more than likely be at the NC game next year too. If OSU is everything you feel that they are (and I think they are a good team....just not as good as you happen to think they are) then they will be in contention next year. Maybe they will even get their shot at LSU.
 
#108
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jethro3898</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yet, in all fairness, if the shoe were on the other foot and it was an OU/OSU NC rematch game or better yet....Iowa State/OSU NC rematch game I'd be willing to bet you (and the "over 50% of college football fans" who if posed with a similar situation with "their" team) would be claiming that it is only right for the top two teams to play. And you/they would be exactly right.

</div></div>

No you are completely wrong. I already said that I disagreed with that:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Talk all you want, Alabama shouldn't have been in the game. I would say the same thing if it was OU vs Texas in the title game. That game is played every year in October, no need to see it again. It was settled then.

</div></div>
 
#109
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

It was clear if you saw the first LSU/Alabama game... LSU's win was a complete fluke. ridiculous calls on the field, and a unprecedented amount of missed FG's.


Say what you will. No team has ever been dominated in a BCS championship like Alabama dominated LSU last night. To still say they didn't belong there just proves that your bias supersedes your logic.
 
#110
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

Even if the BCS had gone to a plus one system this year the outcome would have been the same. It would have been LSU/Stanford in the first game and Alabama/OSU in the second. The final would have been LSU/Bama.

-OSU gave up an average of 446 yards/game.
-Alabama gave up an average of 191 yards/game.
-The SEC was ranked as the hardest conference in the latest rankings (week 13)...not the Big 12.
-Stanford put up 100 yards ABOVE its season average for total yards/game vs OSU.

The OSU argument makes little sense without statistics and even less so when you put them out there. That whole empirical, not emotional, evidence thing.

Josh
 
#111
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Talk all you want, Alabama shouldn't have been in the game. I would say the same thing if it was OU vs Texas in the title game. That game is played every year in October, no need to see it again. It was settled then.</div></div>

So, the idea is to have the best two teams in the nation meet for the national title, right? If the best two teams happen to play because of divisional commonality, historical rivalry, or otherwise, you don't think they should have a rematch int he title game assuming they are the two top teams in the nation? That thinking would be WAY worse than the current BCS.

Josh
 
#112
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even if the BCS had gone to a plus one system this year the outcome would have been the same. It would have been LSU/Stanford in the first game and Alabama/OSU in the second. The final would have been LSU/Bama.

-OSU gave up an average of 446 yards/game.
-Alabama gave up an average of 191 yards/game.
-The SEC was ranked as the hardest conference in the latest rankings (week 13)...not the Big 12.
-Stanford put up 100 yards ABOVE its season average for total yards/game vs OSU.

The OSU argument makes little sense without statistics and even less so when you put them out there. That whole empirical, not emotional, evidence thing.

Josh </div></div>

What Josh said. Bama is the winner. And might be again next year sadly.
 
#113
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even if the BCS had gone to a plus one system this year the outcome would have been the same. It would have been LSU/Stanford in the first game and Alabama/OSU in the second. The final would have been LSU/Bama.

-OSU gave up an average of 446 yards/game. <span style="color: #FF0000"> OSU also defended 350 more plays than Alabama. Our offense scored so fast many times that our defense was always on the field.</span>
-Alabama gave up an average of 191 yards/game. <span style="color: #FF0000">The key point here is to SEC offenses with mediocre offensive teams.</span>
-The SEC was ranked as the hardest conference in the latest rankings (week 13)...not the Big 12. <span style="color: #FF0000">By biased human voters. The computer polls that crunch numbers and use part of human polls says it is the Big 12</span>
-Stanford put up 100 yards ABOVE <span style="color: #FF0000">congrats, did you read what I said about our offense scoring quickly?</span>

The OSU argument makes little sense without statistics and even less so when you put them out there. That whole empirical, not emotional, evidence thing.<span style="color: #FF0000">Again your opinion. All the experts also said LSU would beat Alabama again, it took a game being played to decide that</span>

Josh</div></div>
 
#115
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sour grapes make bitter wine</div></div>

you are only saying that because the situation isn't reversed.
 
#117
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What Josh said. Bama is the winner. And might be again next year sadly. </div></div>

I wouldnt go that far. LSU will actually have a quarterback next year, not a glorified tight end playing qb.
 
#118
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're hilarious. Get a defense. You might have beaten an unranked ISU if you had one.

Josh</div></div>

hmmmm you bash us for losing a game that was played the same day we found out that a second plane crash had claimed the lives athletic personnel at OSU.....

We have a defense, our offense leaves it a poor situation due to our ability to score quickly.

So far you have provided nothing but opinion. You're out.
 
#119
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
hmmmm you bash us for losing a game that was played the same day we found out that a second plane crash had claimed the lives athletic personnel at OSU.....

We have a defense, our offense leaves it a poor situation due to our ability to score quickly.

So far you have provided nothing but opinion. You're out. </div></div>

Actually, I provided numerous stats. While I feel for the people that lost their lives in the plane crash, the OSU football team falling back on that as an excuse is poor form. I would generally wager that 99% of the team had little to zero connection with the basketball staff. Lastly, the ability to score quickly has happened against mediocre defenses. Yes, those big and slow Big 12 defenses. No one gets to the ball or defends better than the SEC. Doesn't matter, only 4 people were silly enough to think you worthy of number 1. No split national title. Sorry they blew their big chance against ISU.

Josh
 
#120
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

And Alabama blew their chance on their home field.....

thanks to a bias towards the SEC they were able to beat LSU.

Congrats, it is now 1-1
 
#121
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was clear if you saw the first LSU/Alabama game... LSU's win was a complete fluke. ridiculous calls on the field, and a unprecedented amount of missed FG's.


Say what you will. No team has ever been dominated in a BCS championship like Alabama dominated LSU last night. To still say they didn't belong there just proves that your bias supersedes your logic. </div></div>

Hey you only dominated the practice squad, the Team I think got hung up in a bar on Bourbon St. They did not show up at the Dome
laugh.gif
 
#122
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And Alabama blew their chance on their home field.....

thanks to a bias towards the SEC they were able to beat LSU.

Congrats, it is now 1-1</div></div>

Why don't you just make your own shirts up that say,"OSU 2012 BCS National Champions" and quit crying about how unfair and wrong the system is? The BCS got it right, the two best teams in the country played for the NC. It's no 1-1 now we gotta play another game to see who the NC is, Bama stepped up and won when it counted. As far as Bama losing the first match up, I'd have to say it wasn't really much of a loss and imo after looking at that goal line turn over in the first game as well as the goal line "incomplete pass" in the NC game, Bama was robbed of two first and goal opportunities. The first would have likely changed the outcome of the first game. The second would have likely padded their score with another 6 points.
 
#125
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowe Left</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> You funny... Alabama is CLEARLY the best team in college football. They had one bad game, of which, they dominated.</div></div>

Actually it isn't clear to many fans all around the nation....that is why it is proof that the system is broke.</div></div>

Yeah, they should probably just give the SEC their own division so that the rest of the nation gets to play for a title too.

What will eventually happen is that we will get an nationwide 8 team playoff, which will result in two SEC teams playing for the title, AGAIN.

But at least it would put a stop to some of the whining from all the "undefeated" teams that couldnt even post a 3 loss season if they played in the SEC!
 
#126
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

Alabama was the better team last night in all the categories. They would have probably won the first matchup, if their kicking game had been better. They fixed that from the last game, too.

The thing we LSU fans can still not understand is why no quarterback change by LSU. Try something. The third string quarterback could not do any worse.

IMO, what you did see was two of the best defenses. 7.5 quarters of regulation play and 1 OT, before either team was able to score a touchdown.

6 years in a row, an SEC team wins the BCS. That's a pretty good record by anyone's standards.
 
#127
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JCH, have you ever thought about running for public office? You have the intellect and reasoning ability for it...</div></div>

kinda like me saying you have the intellect to hold a hose on a fire....
 
#128
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bryan27</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And Alabama blew their chance on their home field.....

thanks to a bias towards the SEC they were able to beat LSU.

Congrats, it is now 1-1</div></div>

Why don't you just make your own shirts up that say,"OSU 2012 BCS National Champions" and quit crying about how unfair and wrong the system is? The BCS got it right, the two best teams in the country played for the NC. It's no 1-1 now we gotta play another game to see who the NC is, Bama stepped up and won when it counted. As far as Bama losing the first match up, I'd have to say it wasn't really much of a loss and imo after looking at that goal line turn over in the first game as well as the goal line "incomplete pass" in the NC game, Bama was robbed of two first and goal opportunities. The first would have likely changed the outcome of the first game. The second would have likely padded their score with another 6 points. </div></div>

He doesn't want to print a shirt that say's that because if OSU played LSU last night they would have been ass raped and from what I keep reading in his responses is that he can't take that much abuse. As for Bama and LSU being 1 and 1 he is wrong on that also. If LSU lost to Bama by a field goal, then it would be 1 and 1 but seeing that we finished 21 to 0 (ALMOST TOTAL DOMINATION) I suggest that they get a National Championship trophy. Oh, wait, they did get a trophy.....nevermind!
 
#130
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

RStewart, I couldn't agree more. They should have tried something. I couldn't believe they didn't. Quarterback change...trick plays..... hell put the waterboy in if you think he can score. It was like they were put in a room with no lights and couldn't find their way out.
 
#132
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bondoscustomz1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was like they were put in a room with no lights and couldn't find their way out. </div></div>
Good analogy. But, just wait until next year!! Lol!
 
#133
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

I'm ready now! Love me some foosball! Mama says it be da devil! eeeeewwwwwwwwww! Bobby Booshay. Really though, there are a few teams that come to mind that will be hard to handle next year, IMHO.
 
#134
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
hmmmm you bash us for losing a game that was played the same day we found out that a second plane crash had claimed the lives athletic personnel at OSU.....</div></div>

You really should be ashamed of yourself for trying to take this awful tragedy and use it as an excuse for your ludicrous loss to a shitty team. Your implication that every player on OSU's squad was so distraught that they couldn't play a football game is an insult to the players, coaches and staff and the memory of the coaches that perished in that horrific misfortune.

That's sinking to a new low.
 
#135
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

whatever Mike...not buying that at all.

I'm pretty sure I'm more current on the situation than you. Gundy himself said the mood of the team was somber all day. They awoke with the news and were all told at breakfast. Gundy would never use it as an excuse but the game should have been cancelled.
 
#137
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

What on Earth did you expect him to say? "No one here really knew them so we don't give a shit?" Of course he's going to say something thoughtful and politically correct. Its really low of you and anyone to use that as an excuse.

Having played on a football team who lost an actual football coach the day before a game, if anything it inspired us to play harder as we dominated and didn't make excuses.
 
#138
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess we should argue that Alabama should play due to the hundreds of lives lost on account of the tornados?
</div></div>

Yeah because that happened the day they were playing against LSU when they lost on their home field.



Let me be clear. I will say with all probability that Alabama and LSU would beat any other team in the nation. My whole point is that as a fan, and by logic, that matchup has already taken place. There should be a different one for the National Championship. Nobody could say with 100% certainty that OSU or Stanford couldn't outplay them....it happens. Does it mean that out of ten times playing a team I think OSU or Stanford could beat Bama and LSU? NO, not at all.

My point is someone else was more deserving. Anything else is opinion that has already been settled on the field.
 
#139
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Let me be clear. I will say with all probability that Alabama and LSU would beat any other team in the nation. My whole point is that as a fan, and by logic, that matchup has already taken place. There should be a different one for the National Championship. </div></div>

So you are saying the top two teams shouldn't play for the national championship? 3 vs 4 should get the trophy? or 18 vs 23?
 
#140
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mpmilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So you are saying the top two teams shouldn't play for the national championship? 3 vs 4 should get the trophy? or 18 vs 23? </div></div>

No, I'm saying in a media biased world that is telling everyone that the SEC has the best two teams that as humans we are bound to begin to think the same way.

If Alabama and LSU hadn't played before then the national championship game would have been a far easier pill to swallow. However, since they had, it shouldn't have happened again.

What you are all saying is that the regular season means nothing. Because if it did, LSU had already proven they were better.
 
#141
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess we should argue that Alabama should play due to the hundreds of lives lost on account of the tornados?
</div></div>

Yeah because that happened the day they were playing against LSU when they lost on their home field.



Let me be clear. I will say with all probability that Alabama and LSU would beat any other team in the nation. My whole point is that as a fan, and by logic, that matchup has already taken place. There should be a different one for the National Championship. Nobody could say with 100% certainty that OSU or Stanford couldn't outplay them....it happens. Does it mean that out of ten times playing a team I think OSU or Stanford could beat Bama and LSU? NO, not at all.

My point is someone else was more deserving. Anything else is opinion that has already been settled on the field. </div></div>
Ok, not trying to be a smart butt here but explain what makes anyone outside the top 2 "more deserving"? I am just trying to understand it from your prospective.
 
#142
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

Okay, time for a lighter moment...
Now, remember I went to LSU and am a fan, but this is too funny!
And if you've heard it before, it's still funny!

"Just heard the LSU team is stuck at the Superdome. Seems the Alabama fans painted a 50 yard line in front of the bus and the team can't get passed it."
 
#143
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

I wondered why there was no QB change last night either. I'm sure in his mind, Miles had a good reason. From my couch it looked like he should have substituted, however.

Honestly, in one sense I'm glad he didn't substitute because they could have actually scored some points and might have surprised Bama.

Don't you worry....LSU will probably be playing for the NC next year. You have so many young players that are returning.
 
#145
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jethro3898</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wondered why there was no QB change last night either. I'm sure in his mind, Miles had a good reason. From my couch it looked like he should have substituted, however.

Honestly, in one sense I'm glad he didn't substitute because they could have actually scored some points and might have surprised Bama.

Don't you worry....LSU will probably be playing for the NC next year. You have so many young players that are returning. </div></div>

We are fortunate that most of our players will indeed be back and we have one good, young quarterback and another prospect that show a lot of potential.
 
#147
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bondoscustomz1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Ok, not trying to be a smart butt here but explain what makes anyone outside the top 2 "more deserving"? I am just trying to understand it from your prospective.</div></div>

Everyone says that the season should still count for something. Well in the case of LSU vs Alabama, that was settled and the visiting team won.

Anyone who argues that Alabama and LSU are the two best teams is arguing an opinion. It may be true, but again it may not be. Nobody knows because neither team played outside their conference in a bowl game. It would have been nice to see all the conference champs play each other. By simply bypassing teams who had not had a chance to matchup against LSU in the regular season and letting a team that already lost to them play, you are basically using human opinions.

Nobody can prove that those two teams are the best. The only way is to settle in on the field. As fans, we were robbed of that and were simply told to accept this because the experts say so....mind you, the same experts said LSU would beat Alabama in the game again. We know how that turned out.
 
#148
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> If Alabama and LSU hadn't played before then the national championship game would have been a far easier pill to swallow. However, since they had, it shouldn't have happened again.

What you are all saying is that the regular season means nothing. Because if it did, LSU had already proven they were better.</div></div>
If the SF 49ers and Baltimore Ravens make it to the SuperBowl, should the game be cancelled and the Ravens crowned? Using your logic, it seems that is what you would want. Or does a playoff system change things? Just trying to follow the logic.
 
#149
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matchking</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> If Alabama and LSU hadn't played before then the national championship game would have been a far easier pill to swallow. However, since they had, it shouldn't have happened again.

What you are all saying is that the regular season means nothing. Because if it did, LSU had already proven they were better.</div></div>
If the SF 49ers and Baltimore Ravens make it to the SuperBowl, should the game be cancelled and the Ravens crowned? Using your logic, it seems that is what you would want. Or does a playoff system change things? Just trying to follow the logic.</div></div>

don't be ridiculous. A seeded playoff leaves little room for doubt.
 
#150
Re: Who do you like for the National Championship game

Yeah, SEC Kool-Aid...... Even though the SEC has tacked on 7 National Championships in the past 10 years, and 3 consecutive from the state of Alabama, it's still "SEC Kool-Aid"...

Actually, I think that's hard fact that the Kool-Aid is goooooood.

Don't worry JCH, I love that it bothers you so, because no matter what wah wah wah'ing you do, Alabama's still sticking that crystal ball in their already packed out trophy case...

Don't worry, eventually OSU will get another championship chance, just pray it's not against Alabama or you'll have to prepare an excuse/ tittie baby list before we take that bitch from you.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Mcrider55
Iowa stomps WOKE LSU in basketball.
Replies
3
Views
575
ironman56
I
Srgt. Hulka
LSU Florida
Replies
23
Views
689
Dead Eye Dick
Dead Eye Dick
918v
Democrat Shit Holes
Replies
13
Views
650
Jgunner
Jgunner
LuckyDuck
Should anyone be looking for a 2 minute reset... step on in...
Replies
14
Views
659
LuckyDuck
LuckyDuck
DeathBeforeDismount
Hunting & Fishing Cellular Game Cams
Replies
29
Views
569
CaptNemo
CaptNemo
Top Bottom
Back
Home
Forums
Merch
Alerts