Who is John Galt???
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You would have to read "Atlas Shrugged" to absorb the meaning.
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I'd suggest not suggesting folks jump into Atlas Shrugged right away.
Tell them to hit Anthem first, then move on to The Fountainhead, then they will be ready for Atlas Shrugged.
Then if they are still onboard, go for We the Living.
Tell them to hit Anthem first, then move on to The Fountainhead, then they will be ready for Atlas Shrugged.
Then if they are still onboard, go for We the Living.
Let the record show that as an unlearned wretch I have no idea what you mean.
Oooohhh(sarcastic)
Look at the READERS
I'm worse, I also write books.
I’m in for a Hello Kitty Shrugged coloring book.
I thought he was I, Obama said I was the problem, and so I closed up a life of productive work and began to live on savings. But, Obama the turd has been flushed, and I stayed retired, so I guess I've just become lazy.
If you like moving pictures instead there is a great film on The Fountain Head
Gary Cooper does a great job bringing the protagonist to life and even manages to capture Ayn Rand's love of sexual encounters that didn't require explicit consent.
Then I helped crowdfund this 3 part adaptation of Atlas Shrugged:
The acting is a bit B rate as this was done without the assistance of any mainstream movie making, but it still works as a condensed version.
Just be aware that there are significant liberties taken in all the film adaptations.
There is also a pretty good animated comic strip series of Anthem that is worth the watch:
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I don't care who John Galt is...I just want to know how I can buy a little cottage in Galt's Gulch!
Read something better like Catch22 or Lonesome Dove. Ayn Rand's stuff is OK, but there's better stuff out there.
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"Who is John Galt?"...He's the dude, that fucked that girl, after she fucked the first two other dudes...who want to live next door...Happily ever after.
So he's the one stuck with sloppy thirds and the bill.
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I listened to 2112 first, then listened to Anthem, (the previous two perhaps a few thousand times), then read Rand's Anthem, then Atlas Shrugged, then The Fountainhead. The Fountainhead I read in about 4 days; Atlas Shrugged took forever (I was moving from one state to another an new job). I think Rand could have cut out a LOT Galt's speech and achieved the same result. But I'd agree. Fountainhead before Atlas.
Earlier in the year during the stupid "Lockdown" Crap that went on here (and unfortunately still goes on in other places), there was a pretty good object lesson handed out in just who was "essential" to the survival of civilization.
If you look at who the "essential" workers were that had to show up at their jobs and travel as compared to all the "non essential" folks who were made to not go to work and to stay home, a lot of things became clear.
For one all of the sudden, the world realized that they didn't actually need or even care that much about celebrities, actors, entertainers, singers, musicians, movie stars, athletes, sports figures and such.
Many denominations broke with tens, or hundreds or thousands of years of teaching and suddenly announced going to church / worship was no longer a divine mandate and was kind of optional and you could watch it at home on streaming.
Companies that used to be all hard assed about making sure all their little slaves were in their assigned cubicles, suddenly realized much of that could be done remotely.
I'd say 2020 more than any year in recent history showed great similarity to plot points in the books Ayn Rand wrote.
If you look at who the "essential" workers were that had to show up at their jobs and travel as compared to all the "non essential" folks who were made to not go to work and to stay home, a lot of things became clear.
For one all of the sudden, the world realized that they didn't actually need or even care that much about celebrities, actors, entertainers, singers, musicians, movie stars, athletes, sports figures and such.
Many denominations broke with tens, or hundreds or thousands of years of teaching and suddenly announced going to church / worship was no longer a divine mandate and was kind of optional and you could watch it at home on streaming.
Companies that used to be all hard assed about making sure all their little slaves were in their assigned cubicles, suddenly realized much of that could be done remotely.
I'd say 2020 more than any year in recent history showed great similarity to plot points in the books Ayn Rand wrote.
As one of the needed people who will eventually get the tap on the shoulder, Ragnar Danneskjöld is currently collecting your "tax refunds" for deposit on your behalf in the new bank. Between that and the gold you can convert your assets to and bring with you. I'm assume you'll have more than enough for your cottage and plenty extra to invest with.
You think you're Mickey Spillane? Do you think you're some kind of fucking writer?
That depends on why you read it.
Atlas Shrugged is a story, written with the purpose of introducing you to and making you think about a philosophy and dogma to live your life by.
If you are only interested in being entertained, it's not a great book. But if you want something that will make you re-examine life and everything you were taught, then dive in.
I swear by my life, and love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask him to live for the sake of mine.
If you dont' mind my nosiness as a profession or on the side? I've got a book I finished the first draft on I need to revise but have no clue what the hell to do with it afterwards.
As far as Rand never read a lick of it. Sounds interesting maybe one day.
my favorite book. read it several times.
None of mine are published yet, it will probably be another year or so before I have the set all edited and ready for the first one to go up.
My father has had several books published, and one of my brothers has a book out, as does one of my sisters, so I'm somewhat familiar with the process.
In this day and age it's pretty easy.
Just first off and understand this going into it. If you make enough sales to cover your expenses you are doing as good as the bulk of small writers out there.
Actually making a living writing is a lot harder and you really have to hustle and work at it, especially since actual readers are in decline.
You should approach it first as doing it because you love writing and the journey gets you involved with lots of other great writers and such.
The good news is that it's pretty easy to get your book published with minimal effort.
I would suggest you publish it on Amazon, it's cheap, straightforward and you don't get hit with a bunch of crazy fees and hidden charges some other folks that promise to "promote" your book stick you with on the backside.
I'd suggest you stick with a black and white paperback book with a colour cover as the most cost effective option and then also offer it as a ebook and also offer a tie in with discounted ebook with purchase of book. You may also seriously want to consider making it an audio book as well.
Then once you get everything submitted correctly, you get a proof copy to check and see if you like it, then you can tell it to go live.
Then what you can do is purchase bulk lots of author's copies which you get at a pretty discounted price and you use those to sell / give to friends / family as well as when you have book signing events (assuming such things happen again once the Wuhan Flu business is over).
Don't bother paying for any professional reviews, they are usually a waste of money.
Join up your local writer's club/guild/organization and have fun getting to know everyone. Quite often you'll find other writers interested in you read & review their book and they read and review your book.
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IIRC Galt's speech went on for almost 100 pages. I got about 5 pages in and said "How fucking long is this speech?!...100 pages?!!...WTF?!"
I skipped to the end of the speech and then continued on.
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Ultimately, John Galt is everyman, his time is right now, and he's getting just as much support now as he did back then.
Every individual he tried to help turned their backs on him. Sounds damned familiar these days.
Every individual he tried to help turned their backs on him. Sounds damned familiar these days.
He didn't, however another prominent character in the story was married and the book explains the moral thing to do according to the philosophy was to simply walk away and divorce the wife when it became apparent she was a leach and had enslaved the husband & was holding him back.
One of the other primary female characters pretty much was up front to the wife about, you don't deserve that man, I'm taking him because it's in my best interest and he can decide what's in his own best interest.
Enslaving the producers (often Men) using domestic "guilt" is portrayed as an insidious propaganda deeply ingrained into our culture.
Also the idea that you don't owe anybody anything and nobody owes you anything, is a surprisingly alien concept for most.
John Galt's tale is a parable teaching us that humanity is at the mercy of the universe, that his outcome is of his own making, and is solely in his own hands. Call for miracles, help from above, the onrushing cavalry, the righteous reset of a benevolent government; whatever.
It's not coming.
What we get is what we personally earn. When we skip voting, stay home during the rallies, shout our outrage on the court steps, it' all just talk, or the lack thereof. Talk's cheap, and whatever it earns us not enough to get us out of this jam.
The word we're searching for here is 'more'.
Whatever it is we need to be doing right now, the important part of it is the 'more' part.
If you're waiting for God to settle any of this, you'll die waiting. God helps those who help themselves.
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It's not coming.
What we get is what we personally earn. When we skip voting, stay home during the rallies, shout our outrage on the court steps, it' all just talk, or the lack thereof. Talk's cheap, and whatever it earns us not enough to get us out of this jam.
The word we're searching for here is 'more'.
Whatever it is we need to be doing right now, the important part of it is the 'more' part.
If you're waiting for God to settle any of this, you'll die waiting. God helps those who help themselves.
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Yeah, the underlying current of self centered humanism and Darwinian principles applied to intimate human relationships never set well with me.
My idea of duty, honor, integrity and family are decidedly Christian in nature. Rand was an athiest.
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Without wanting to offend folks too much, if you do your own thinking, it's not hard to square up the basic ideas of Rand's writings as being very useful guiding points, even if you are deeply religious.
In my personal opinion, one of the primary philosophy points of her book, That people will always seek to use Fear, Guilt & Shame to control and enslave you, is actually exceptionally good advice for the deeply religious types.
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On this we agree. Satan is the accuser of God's people. The Godless who live among us can be expected to do the same.
John 15:20
This the fucking book pit now? Yall should be reading survival guides or the Bible. Faggy ass bunch of motherfuckers around here. First soccer and now this. What's next, fucking tupperware and how to tie a man bun? At least go read some Clancy to wash the gay outta your eyes before you're too far gone.
In all seriousness, Rand's books are not my favorites. I simply don't like her writing style at all. Reminds me of Camus— prolix, waggish, and frequently pleonastic. She can spin a yarn for sure, but not into anything I enjoy reading through. The mark of a good writer is elegance, the ability to fill a single page with books instead of just filling a single book with pages. I think Hemingway is the only author whose writings I actually enjoy the circumlocutory fashion of. It's like every one of them is a very long road around telling the world to go fuck itself, where in contrast Rand just cries.
In all seriousness, Rand's books are not my favorites. I simply don't like her writing style at all. Reminds me of Camus— prolix, waggish, and frequently pleonastic. She can spin a yarn for sure, but not into anything I enjoy reading through. The mark of a good writer is elegance, the ability to fill a single page with books instead of just filling a single book with pages. I think Hemingway is the only author whose writings I actually enjoy the circumlocutory fashion of. It's like every one of them is a very long road around telling the world to go fuck itself, where in contrast Rand just cries.
That is why I favor Mr, Rearden.
"I am sorry, gentlemen, that I will be obliged to save your goddamn necks along with mine."
He was the true hero of that book
I would think on this forum that it would be something like:
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