Thank you!Manzella Precision in Roundup Montana built mine, it's an absolute hammer.
thank youCaleb at Alpha & Omega did mine. View attachment 7800430
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Thank you!Manzella Precision in Roundup Montana built mine, it's an absolute hammer.
thank youCaleb at Alpha & Omega did mine. View attachment 7800430
Staball is another good one from what I hear but also read some say it’s dirty and fouls the .22 faster than say a 6.5 but no personal experience with it.I was speaking with Tom @ Alpha munitions yesterday, pertaining to their ocd brass. I guess a few shooters have had very good luck with H4831sc in the 22gt. This means RL23 will also run well, as its similar case fill but gives a good speed boost and is extremely temp stable.
Rl23 will work perfectly, it’s all I ran in my 22 dasher with 95s , ran 3085 in a 26” went 1900 rds before it got a little finicky.I was speaking with Tom @ Alpha munitions yesterday, pertaining to their ocd brass. I guess a few shooters have had very good luck with H4831sc in the 22gt. This means RL23 will also run well, as its similar case fill but gives a good speed boost and is extremely temp stable.
Yeah I've heard stabal65 is decent, but afyer trying several ball powders in the past, they can suck taint. Too temp sensitive, not just velocity swings, but ignition in cold weather all together, especially utilizing it in small primer cases. I know the good good H4350 RL16 isnt easy to find, but it's out there. I've scored 3x 8# jugs H4350 in last few months.Staball is another good one from what I hear but also read some say it’s dirty and fouls the .22 faster than say a 6.5 but no personal experience with it.
Another for Fritz at black canyon custom. He chambered my 22GT. Straight up laser beam View attachment 7800757
what the hell do those number reflect....what the hell doesHere's my data, broke the rifle in with 100 rounds of 88eldm 34.5gr H4350. Then shot a ladder with 90 atips. 3085-3110 had like an inch of vert at 500y. Loades up at 3100fps 20k off lands was 3 shots touching at 300y. Prob easiest load development ever.
Bighorn origin
Hawkhill 7tw 219 bore hvy varm @ 26"
Gen3 fat bastard
Arc Xylo chassis
Gen3 razor 6-36x56
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lots of data but I have no idea what you are telling us....Here's my data, broke the rifle in with 100 rounds of 88eldm 34.5gr H4350. Then shot a ladder with 90 atips. 3085-3110 had like an inch of vert at 500y. Loades up at 3100fps 20k off lands was 3 shots touching at 300y. Prob easiest load development ever.
Bighorn origin
Hawkhill 7tw 219 bore hvy varm @ 26"
Gen3 fat bastard
Arc Xylo chassis
Gen3 razor 6-36x56
View attachment 7799871
1 is sequence in ladder test, Charge weight, velocity 3020, 3022. I drop the first number on my velocity as i know what they are.what the hell do those number reflect....what the hell does
1 34.8,020,022 mean????
Psyched, I just picked up a Tikka in 22GT. thanks @Birch7. Picked up 500 95gr match kings to run. I do I have couple pounds of H4350 and 2 pounds of 6.5 staball to get me going. A local gun store just got in an 8 pound jug of h4831sc. Tempted to buy it but didn’t know if it was a bit slower than ideal. Don’t wanna commit to 8 pounds of a powder that’s not gonna work. Anybody have any success using it? Any load data you care to share? ThanksI was speaking with Tom @ Alpha munitions yesterday, pertaining to their ocd brass. I guess a few shooters have had very good luck with H4831sc in the 22gt. This means RL23 will also run well, as its similar case fill but gives a good speed boost and is extremely temp stable.
Fill case to bottom of neck and see what you get! I bet rl23 would be better as it has higher energy content vs 4831sc at same charge weight. I do not have 4831sc to try in the 22, but my 35.2gr charge of H4350, there's quite a but more room for powder.Psyched, I just picked up a Tikka in 22GT. thanks @Birch7. Picked up 500 95gr match kings to run. I do I have couple pounds of H4350 and 2 pounds of 6.5 staball to get me going. A local gun store just got in an 8 pound jug of h4831sc. Tempted to buy it but didn’t know if it was a bit slower than ideal. Don’t wanna commit to 8 pounds of a powder that’s not gonna work. Anybody have any success using it? Any load data you care to share? Thanks
Nice. That’s pretty slow burning relatively speaking. What speeds are you getting? Heavy compression?I'm running RL26 in mine with 90 Atips and 88 ELDM's
Ok thanks. Question for the group.2988 FPS with 90's in my 18" barrel
little to no compression
The gt holds 7.5% more powder. Which equates to 2-3% more velocity at equal pressures.Anyone competed / tested their 22 GT against a 22 Dasher?
Thoughts …..
Tight vertical dispersion nodes at distance are 2980-3005, 3085-3110, 3185-3210 with my gt and 90 atips. 88 eldm nodes were another 15-20 faster than the 90s from my observations.Ok thanks. Question for the group.
Has there been a velocity “sweet spot” identified for the popular heavy .22 bullets, like the 88 eldm, 90/95 smk, atips, etc in regards to the 22 GT. I know guys are in the ball park with the 22 BR as well. Seems like guys are having success 2950-2990 when guys are running the 88 eldms in the 22 BR.
Are guys finding great nodes sub 3k, 3000-3100, or 3100+ FPS?
Yes. All the time.Anyone competed / tested their 22 GT against a 22 Dasher?
Thoughts …..
A 6gt non bushing die will not size the neck, unless you have another means of neck sizing? It'll essentially be a body die that bumps the shoulder.Have a 224 7 twist M24 contour bartlein barrel in route to my smith to be chambered in 22 GT with the alpha reamer. I think I’m going to go 26inch barrel length. Anyone know who has a 6 gt wilson full length sizing die in stock or an rcbs full length sizer? I already have a SAC seating die. It’s awesome to see all the support this cartridge is currently getting.
Yep planning on using a 6gt full length bushing die with a.249 bushing. Can’t find any Wilson 6 gt dies in stock and the rcbs ones seem to only come with the sizing die and seating die which I don’t need.A 6gt non bushing die will not size the neck, unless you have another means of neck sizing? It'll essentially be a body die that bumps the shoulder.
Yes. All the time.
My shooting partner is on his second season running a 22GT, I'm running a 22 Dasher.
For purposes of PRS shooting, both easily exceed the speed limit of 3200fps. I hit 3300fps with 88gr ELDMs in mine at 32.8grs of Varget with only early signs of pressure.
In my Dasher I'm currently running 30.8grs of Varget at 3134fps with 85.5gr Bergers. A little faster than I intended, it just seemed to settle there on the load I was using. I'm flying to Grand Junction for the Koenig/Ruger match in the morning, so I'm out of time to tinker with it. But I'll drop that charge weight a bit when I get back. I would rather be around a 3080 to 3100fps.
It runs 95gr SMKs very nicely at 3050 or 3130. I may spool some of those up for the PRS match after this one.
In a nutshell, a little less powder to run the Dasher, no mag spacer to run the GT. Thats about it.
My buddy did well with the GT.how'd ya wind up doing and partner with GT ?
So what specs have you worked out that are ideal for the 22 dasher? Or is the 22 GT better?My buddy did well with the GT.
My experiment with the Dasher didn't go as well. But it was a good learning experience.
I tinkered with a bunch of bullets and freebores. I finally ran out the freebore so far that everything stopped shooting. So I'm cutting that barrel back and rechambering it as soon as my reamer gets here. The only 22 Dasher reamer I could get my hands on was a rental from 4D that was a tight neck and short freebore. So I had to use a neck reamer and throating tool just to get it started. My reamer is a .2555 neck and .120" freebore.
The 95gr SMK was a disappointment. It just doesn't seem to like being pushed at 3100fps or greater. I've heard people talk about pushing them faster but I've struck out with that bullet in both my 22 Creedmoor and my Dasher. And I've never gotten higher than a .290 G7 BC in several different barrels. I'm going to stick with 85s, 88s, and tinker with the 90gr Atip going forward.