First off, I'm sorry I'm not super snipers like ya'll are, I'm new to longrange shooting, I don't know everything about scopes like most of you, I can barely figure out how many minutes or fucking Mils to come up from 100 to 600yds, though I do know what a MOA is, ie:at 700yds there are 7moa, etc etc. Did you fucking guys go to scope college for this shit or what, haha!! Ballistic calculators are my best friends, math is not. Another thing, I didn't enlist in the USMC like my son did or ARMY like Im sure many of you did, USAF didnt teach me a fucking thing about longrange shooting, you couldn't even clear your own weapon when those fucking 22lr jammed in your M-16,(Gorski, you're disqualified from this course for trying to clear your own weapon, again) finally made "Expert" after they went back to shooting real 5.56NATO rounds, whop dee fucking doo!
Presently, I only shoot 600 BR, so I practice at 300yds, and I'm always zerod at 300yds, why would I mess with my scope if Im shooting at one distance? When I'm ready for the 600yd BR comp I dial up, you guys love this term, dont you, 29 clicks and Im dead nuts at 600, I really dont even need a sighter, (that's how good the ballistic calculators are)., but take one anyways.
When I say we have a RO, it's more of a person that takes your money to go shoot, sometimes they might "come out" and scold a person for shoddy safety practices. There is no cease fire, we have pits and ditches if you wanna call them that that run parallel with the shooting lanes, bullets fly over your head as you put your target up, sorry if I dont have the proper term for that, I'm sure you guys do, smartass, aren't I?
A shooter leaves all of his or her equipment on the bench and you "TRUST" nobody fucks with it, (in most cases nobody does), while you go down range.
Shane, This is a target similar to what I was shooting yesterday, my POA was the 3rd square over on top with the POI on the 3rd row down 3rd square over, yup, about a foot on the target I had yesterday, though there was more of a space between the top and bottom targets in wednesdays shooting.
Guess since you guys are giving me the business about not knowing much about scopes, cept for the basics I'll have to find time to learn more about them, when I'm not working or sleeping, or working more, hell, I'd probably fall asleep if I went to "Scope college" like you guys did, lol
Okay.. seriously... I'm pretty much a LR newb too but this thread is a joke... isn't it?
You're lucky, I didnt own my first scope till I was 22, and I dont have time to read, but I'll make time now.
Do you see me smiling, Chuck? I can show you the whole pic of my target, the poa and the poi if you like? I dont waste my time on foolishness. If it wasnt the guy next to me that did it,(I know him well and he wouldn't touch my stuff) it was some asshole that didnt like the way my rifle looked, or he was jealous, who knows. Too bad they dont have cameras out there watching the line.
There was a guy on every bench, I was on 5 and the only guy I knew there was Bruce, working on his BR rifle on 6, then you have the 50-100yd range right next to the 50-300yd range where I was, they're like 25 yds apart. That range was pretty much full, also.
I thank you and Killswitch for this much needed lesson! Next trip to the range ill zero my scope properly.J, As Killswitch mentioned, lets turn this thread into something you can benefit from.
First off, many shooters are referring to "zeroing" your turret. This is a very important concept to grasp, as it allows you to have a constant frame of reference to orient your elevation corrections from. When you set the "0" of your turret @ 100yds, any elevation corrections dialed will always be UP from that baseline zero. IE, you will never have to dial below the "0" on your turret...
To do this, you simply need to get your rifle's POI hitting dead on @ exactly 100yds. Don't worry about what value your ele. turret is on, adjust the scope so that your POI is true @ 100yds.
Now that your rifle is zeroed @ 100yds, you need to "zero" your turret to match the rifle's POI. Do this by lining up the "0" of the turret with the zero line on the scope body. Follow along...
1. Take the proper sized Allen key and loosen the center screw on the ele. turret. Make sure to hold the turret body, so that it does not 'click' UP or DOWN.
2. Remove the screw completely.
3. Slide the turret body straight up and off the splines of the turret housing. Make sure you don't 'click' UP or DOWN
4. Orient the "0" of the turret body to the hash mark on the scope, then slide the body back down onto the splines of the turret housing.
The "0" mark on the turret body should now be perfectly in line with the hash mark indicator on the scope.
5. If so, replace the center screw and tighten with Allen key. Make sure to hold the turret body when tightening so you don't 'click'
Voila, your turret and rifle's POI are now matched and "ZEROED" @ 100yds.
You now have a constant baseline to adjust from, and return to.
You can run your ballistic app with a 100yd zero, and all of your corrections for incressed distance will be UP from that set "zero".
You can now check and confirm this "zero" @ 100yds anytime you wish, to accuracy test a new load, or whatever. The main idea is the importance of having known distance reference point to work from...
Now, if you want to set your rifle's POI to 300yds for your practice, simply adjust the turret UP to whatever MOA value your ballistic app tells you.
Confirm that by shooting @ 300yds and remember that MOA value as being your 300yd correction!
Do the same @ 600yds, and take note of that MOA correction, too.
You are done.
And you are now using a numbered turret as it was intended to be used. Those numbers are there for a reason...
Good luck & good shooting!
Who are you trying to fool you are a DICK!
)....comes with a write on/wipe off card and also a circular insert to put inside your flip ups. No need to remember them (unless you want/need to)...they're just there! Great if you don't use a ballistics program, forget/lose/drown your phone or the battery dies!
