Why isn't straight pull more popular?
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There aren't that many nice straight pull rifles out there. A well designed turnbolt rifle is just as quick and smooth(if not quicker and smoother) as the average straight pull contraption, while being generally simpler and more reliable.
Obviously you have to practice to get proficient with a turnbolt, but I'd argue that the same goes with any manual repeater. The turnbolts aren't generally slower than the straight pulls just because of the extra direction of pull with the turnbolt.
Obviously you have to practice to get proficient with a turnbolt, but I'd argue that the same goes with any manual repeater. The turnbolts aren't generally slower than the straight pulls just because of the extra direction of pull with the turnbolt.
There is a Canadian Rimfire PRS shooter using a Fortner. He is regularly top 5 in the matches out west. Drives an old Corolla. Priorities you know.
If I wasn’t budget conscious I would buy a Blaser with all the options right away. Before some small dick super car for sure.
Don’t forget to flip out your tow mirrors and roll coal…. Only straight pull that has ever caught my eye is a 6mm Lee Navy…. And I’ll own one, one of these days when I find the right one.
I’ll echo this. My K31 is a marvel of engineering that puts many to shame but the complexity of the action is probably overkill
If want one of the Blaser R8 rifles you actually can get into them somewhat economically.
(As in around the same price as a decent mid-range custom rifle).
Consider getting the standard professional stock (not the professional success), get the standard non-fancy pants trigger / magazine and bolt / housing etc for a basic build and a decent basic hunting or shooting barrel in the caliber you want, then get the scope mount you need.
Later on you can upgrade or fancy things up however you want and budget and taste (or lack thereof) dictates.
You can hunt around for used parts for some of the more expensive stuff if you find a good deal on them.
Unless my financial situation changes a lot, I don’t see it happening because of what a couple actions and prefits can do for the handy shooter. I like really nice stuff that is all done out of the box but I’m not cutthroat enough to make that $$$.
The guy with the theoretically hugest johnson of them all: drives a beige 1998 Corolla, obeys all traffic laws, and shoots a beat up .243 Savage. Also beige.
At the risk of appearing pedantic, I'll submit this when it comes to a manually-operated-shoulder-fired-weapon-system at an expeditious rate-of-fire.
I love those stupid "speed runs". Like revolver "draw, shoot, re-holster" in a flash of an eye.
The ammo is less powerful than a 22mag, barely fast enough to bounce off a steel plate, let alone punch paper, but oh wow it's still super impressive to watch.
I equate it to drag racing. Fun to watch, marvel of engineering, balls to drive it that fast, but you wanna turn a corner ? Gtf outta here. This is the same.
The ammo is less powerful than a 22mag, barely fast enough to bounce off a steel plate, let alone punch paper, but oh wow it's still super impressive to watch.
I equate it to drag racing. Fun to watch, marvel of engineering, balls to drive it that fast, but you wanna turn a corner ? Gtf outta here. This is the same.
I should have known that someone would come up with a perfunctory yet plebian remark like that
I'm not going to ask if we know each other outside of this esteemed forum. Some things might better left undiscovered
Sweet now do it with something that handles a modern round at normal pressures
I decided to get the Savage Impulse Big Game rifle in 6.5 CM. The OEM stock is ok but I wanted something that would give me a little better balance. I had a problem with putting a suppressor on it.
I have to use high or extra high rings to get the scope up high enough to keep the suppressor out of the field of view. The adjustable cheek piece on the Boyd's stock and the OEM cheek piece don't go up high enough with high rings. So I cannot get a good cheek weld on the rifle when it's suppressed.
In addition, there's something about the way the OEM and Boyd's stocks are shaped that don't work well with a bipod. Maybe I'm got too accustomed to using chassis equipped rifles.
The rifle was zeroed in at 100 yards. Then I went to a range with targets out to 1 mile. The rifle sucked on the bipod. So I decided to rest it on a PRS bag and hold it like I did when I had my WW2 sniper rifles which suck as far as ergonomics go.
I was hitting a 12" plate 4/8 times at 1200 yards. My misses were due to windage errors. The winds were 5-8 MPH varying between quartering right and left tailwind.
Then the last four shots that day were on a 12" steel plate at 1000 yards.
When I can get that kind of accuracy out of a hunting weight rifle I will not complain.
I have to use high or extra high rings to get the scope up high enough to keep the suppressor out of the field of view. The adjustable cheek piece on the Boyd's stock and the OEM cheek piece don't go up high enough with high rings. So I cannot get a good cheek weld on the rifle when it's suppressed.
In addition, there's something about the way the OEM and Boyd's stocks are shaped that don't work well with a bipod. Maybe I'm got too accustomed to using chassis equipped rifles.
The rifle was zeroed in at 100 yards. Then I went to a range with targets out to 1 mile. The rifle sucked on the bipod. So I decided to rest it on a PRS bag and hold it like I did when I had my WW2 sniper rifles which suck as far as ergonomics go.
I was hitting a 12" plate 4/8 times at 1200 yards. My misses were due to windage errors. The winds were 5-8 MPH varying between quartering right and left tailwind.
Then the last four shots that day were on a 12" steel plate at 1000 yards.
When I can get that kind of accuracy out of a hunting weight rifle I will not complain.
When I used the adder thermal in the AD Recon mount on my Impulse predator I had no sight interference issues with the 4" linear comp I use, but the predator barrel is only 22"s long.
Maybe you can get in contact with Boyd's and see if they can make longer posts for the cheek piece ?
SJC
Maybe you can get in contact with Boyd's and see if they can make longer posts for the cheek piece ?
SJC
I did that and they don’t have any longer posts. They said that the inability to raise the cheek piece any higher was their number one complaint.
So why don’t they do something about it?
Because I still have a suppressor with nothing to put it on, I did the only sensible thing there was to do.
I bought another rifle
It’s now mounted on a SIG Cross. The scope is in high rings and at 3-15 X, the suppressor is out of view.In the meantime, I’ll research a DIY solution for longer posts.
Try one of the custom gunmakers/gunstockers who specialize in target work, such as Doan Trevor: https://doantrevor.com/. I know nothing about his work beyond his website, but I'd bet he'd understand exactly what you've described above and be happy to accommodate. From his images, and that only, I'd judge that Mr. Trevor understands how to build a rifle/stock that works for its picky commissioner.
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