Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

[Smokin]

There are so many of us here who have spent a LOT on highly custom rimfire rifles, but I haven't seen anyone with these. With the straight pull back to run the bolt, why haven't more adopted these rifles? $1700 isn't cheap for a rifle, but it's not as bad of what some of us have spent on custom rigs.

http://www.altiusguns.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=37_42&osCsid=038af3c846865e84a6e718a2e6dd3962

 

[RicosRevenge]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

'cause it ain't tacticool... most people here are looking for a "trainer" type rimfire so while extremely practical and smooth, the finger cock (doesn't sound nice) doesn't translate well to most in this crowd.

 

[teknikallysekure]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Smokin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are so many of us here who have spent a LOT on highly custom rimfire rifles, but I haven't seen anyone with these. With the straight pull back to run the bolt, why haven't more adopted these rifles? $1700 isn't cheap for a rifle, but it's not as bad of what some of us have spent on custom rigs.

http://www.altiusguns.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=37_42&osCsid=038af3c846865e84a6e718a2e6dd3962 </div></div>

Once I'm happy with my tactical match rig the next run up will be biathlon for me no doubt.

 

[Kiba]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

I would really like to give a Biathlon rifle a try-- but I've never even seen one in person.

You can pick up a used Izhmash Biathlon Basic pretty reasonably... sure the stock isn't as fancy or adjustable as the higher end Izhmash or Anschutz rifles but you could get a good feel for the straight pull action fairly inexpensively.

Some good pics and info from old threads here...

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1468629

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1893045

 

[RicosRevenge]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

For some reason it is sticking in my brain that there is a kit for conversion to a finger action for the 10/22

 

[Kiba]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For some reason it is sticking in my brain that there is a kit for conversion to a finger action for the 10/22 </div></div>

Primary Weapons Systems sells (or used to sell) a toggle action 10/22 called the T3 Summit but I can't find it on their webpage. I don't know if they aren't released yet or they dropped them entirely.

The google cached version of the item page is still available...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...=www.google.com

 

[WhiskeyWebber]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

I'm planning on one of the Izhmash Biathlon deals that Mac Tilton sells from MTGuns.

 

[Kiba]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

All this talk has me looking at the biathlon rifles on MTguns right now.

I wouldn't mind having a 7-4 with aperture sights and another with optics... a non-semiauto .22lr is something I don't currently have.

The CM-2 bolt action looks really nice too.

 

[Wolvenhaven]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

I've got a 7-2KO Basic and it's a phenomenal rifle. They pop up on gunbroker and rimfirecentral for around $500. Shoots ragged holes at 100y out of the box, it is a very well made and tuned rifle. Trigger pull is honestly like 12oz or less.

 

[MLC]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All this talk has me looking at the biathlon rifles on MTguns right now.

I wouldn't mind having a 7-4 with peep sights and another with optics... a non-semiauto .22lr is something I don't currently have.

The CM-2 bolt action looks really nice too. </div></div>

I bought a CM-2 for my brother and the trigger and accuracy are positively amazing for well under 500 bucks.
I've shot 5 shots groups prone at 50 yards that were less than 1/8" in elevation and half an inch wide maximum.

I will definitely pick up one of the Biathlon rifles in the near future.

 

[WhiskeyWebber]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All this talk has me looking at the biathlon rifles on MTguns right now.

I wouldn't mind having a 7-4 with aperture sights and another with optics... a non-semiauto .22lr is something I don't currently have.

The CM-2 bolt action looks really nice too. </div></div>

Mac just finished a 6XC gun for me...and it's on the FedEx truck making it's way to NC so I figure I can't buy another rifle until at least that one shows up.

He and his business partner Bruce are great to do business with.

 

[Izzy_metal]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

Not tacticool? The biathlon rifle shares the same barreled action as this one:

Here's a pic of my bb, more targetcool but I like it that way.
I've got a CM-2 also. I just like the value of the russian rifles... not much in the pretty department but will shoot very well.

 

[seanh]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

if you can find the Izmash 22's, get one...you'll love them. Shoot great right out of the box, balance well, have great triggers, full size weaver/picatinny rail for sight.

 

[nobbie333actual]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

my guess is they are very expensive to make and buy
also I thought that browning was bring back their t-bolt and Primary Weapons Systems action would be nice if they are for sale yet

 

[Redmanss]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For some reason it is sticking in my brain that there is a kit for conversion to a finger action for the 10/22 </div></div>

Primary Weapons Systems sells (or used to sell) a toggle action 10/22 called the T3 Summit but I can't find it on their webpage. I don't know if they aren't released yet or they dropped them entirely.

The google cached version of the item page is still available...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...=www.google.com</div></div> I'm still waiting on them to release it. Without a doubt the basis of my next rimfire build.

 

[ivanthesane]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Izzy_metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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That is one nice looking piece of lumber on that rifle...

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

I think they're great firearms, and for their discipline, they are perfectly evolved. If I were still hotfootin' it around the landscape these days, I'd definitely have one, and probably adapt the sling and bore protection for a centerfire rifle or two of mine also. But alas, nothing I do these days requires such adaptation.

Greg

 

[paraman1]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For some reason it is sticking in my brain that there is a kit for conversion to a finger action for the 10/22 </div></div>

I don't think they are available yet but if you go to this site and look at the pictures of the PWS magazine release you can see their toggle system ..... http://www.hawktecharms.com/

 

[Ishikawa]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

Don't do it! They suck!

 

[seanh]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

seems like you're the only one that thinks that.

the toggle is faster and keeps you on target better than a bolt gun...or having to actuate an auto bolt with the little stub that sticks out.

those little Izhmash rifles are awsome. Hard to beat that gun for what you get.


Ok, just looked at the post. were you referring the the product or toggle action rifles?

 

[Dylan in AZ]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seanh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">seems like you're the only one that thinks that.

the toggle is faster and keeps you on target better than a bolt gun...or having to actuate an auto bolt with the little stub that sticks out.

those little Izhmash rifles are awsome. Hard to beat that gun for what you get.


Ok, just looked at the post. were you referring the the product or toggle action rifles?</div></div>
What, you couldn't feel the sarcasm through your computer screen?

 

[woogie_man]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

Kiba.......


GET A CM-2!!!


I bought one on a whim, and I love the rifle. It will shoot far better than I can, and the fact that it loves just about any kind of ammo is great. At 100 and 200 yards the groups are dang near the same if I am using Rem bulk ammo or Elley Target loads.

 

[*Nine]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael N</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For some reason it is sticking in my brain that there is a kit for conversion to a finger action for the 10/22 </div></div>

I don't think they are available yet but if you go to this site and look at the pictures of the PWS magazine release you can see their toggle system ..... http://www.hawktecharms.com/</div></div>

This is correct. They are waaaaaaaaay beyond their estimated ship date in April. Some guys that I know and myself have had orders in for some of the first run since February.

 

[Ishikawa]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Terror!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seanh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">seems like you're the only one that thinks that.

the toggle is faster and keeps you on target better than a bolt gun...or having to actuate an auto bolt with the little stub that sticks out.

those little Izhmash rifles are awsome. Hard to beat that gun for what you get.


Ok, just looked at the post. were you referring the the product or toggle action rifles?</div></div>
What, you couldn't feel the sarcasm through your computer screen? </div></div>

Oh boy...sorry for the confusion, lol. I thought it would be obvious that I'm a fan of the Basics with posting the picture. That's my rifle...there are many like it, but that one is MINE. Awesome guns, I've had it for over 6 years and I love it.

 

[AzizaVFR]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

With the correct application of machinery, problem solving, and Weiheistephaner, the Biathalon Basic can be Tacticool, wearing a Boyd's Tacticool stock.

 

[MtGoat]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

I was at PWS on Tuesday and got to handle their T3 Summit Rifle. It will definately be a winner and accepts great magazines to boot (Ruger 10/22's and variants). They are getting Anschutz accuracy out of the rifle. Dual extractors allow them to properly seat the bullet in the chamber (engrave the bullet) for the best accuracy. This will definately need more attention. They are tensioned barrels that are threaded for use of a suppressor definatly a plus..

Looks to be a great gun.

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=265&idcategory=26

Pat

 

[xring11]

Re: Why not biathlon rimfire rifles?

Reading threads like this makes me want to get more toys that I did not realize I *NEED*!