woman kills unarmed man in wrong apartment

[RyanScott]

It requires intent. She testified that she intentionally shot him. Lacking the authority to be there, it was no self defense. So it’s murder.

 

[308pirate]

Who here carries a first aid kit for the treatment of gunshot wounds, to include blood-borne pathogen barriers, everywhere they go?

Not I.....

 

[RyanScott]

Actually no, (mens rea) requires that a person intended to commit an act ( regardless of the result) so she "intended" to shoot

whether it was self defense, justified or whatever at that point is a matter of the totality of the circumstance.

In this case its murder because of the wording of the Texas statute- in many other jurisdictions this would have been manslaughter and not qualified for a murder charge.

She could have said she "intentionally tried to wound him" and shot him in the arm but if death resulted her intent would not change the charge under the statute in Texas.

Now you WILL see times that a prosecutor may charge with a lesser offense because of any number of factors such as the totality of the incident but that's a choice, not a requirement.

Read the statute again.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

If there is one important thing to be learned from this tragic saga, it is:

1. Make sure the locks are working on your home's main door(s).

2. Lock your damn doors. And make it a habit to keep them locked. No matter what neighborhood you live in or how "safe" it is. (There is no such thing as safety. A high speed pigeon can kill you if it strikes you in the jugular beak-first)

That said, my door is ALWAYS locked. Even if I am just coming back from doing something, going in to take a piss and leaving again. If I am home and somebody I do not know or is expecting tries to play with the door, I will be on high alert. Compromising the locks and actually entering the room will earn you an immediate blast of .357 Mag/.45 or a triple blade hunting broadhead, depending on what I feel like picking up first. Through the intestines...

Why do people keep their doors unlocked?

I don't fucking get it.

 

[theLBC]

negligent homicide. 10 years.

well, i got the 10 years part right.

 

[SilentStalkr]

well, i got the 10 years part right.

Seriously? That’s all she got?

 

[SilentStalkr]

Yep, unreal isn't it?

Indeed! So it’s almost perfectly legal to murder some innocent man in his own house. $10 says she is out in 5!

 

[clcustom1911]

I've pulled many 16 hour shifts then drove 30 minutes home....

This whole case is ridiculous. Fuck her. She should have gotten 20-30 years before eligible for parole.

 

[clcustom1911]

That said, my door is ALWAYS locked.

Why do people keep their doors unlocked?

I don't fucking get it.

Yes, always lock doors.

Like you I am continually perplexed why people leave their vehicles and homes unlocked on the regular. They are unintentional professional victims... Private Pyle Syndrome.

 

[clcustom1911]

Lets be fair here- the jury made the sentencing decision, not her.

I agree this boggles the mind unless something was presented that the media simply didn't report.

10 years ( assuming ability to work down or parole) is a sentence for something like involuntary manslaughter but she was charged and convicted on the higher crime of murder.

That's light for murder.

But at the end of the day, the jury has decided.

100% agree. It's the justice system at work. It is an incredibly light sentence for murder 2 given the publicly available evidence. It is what is is.

Two lives, two families, and community relations destroyed due to poor judgment and decision making ability.

Sad shit all around

 

[DOA]

Lets be fair here- the jury made the sentencing decision, not her.

I agree this boggles the mind unless something was presented that the media simply didn't report.

10 years ( assuming ability to work down or parole) is a sentence for something like involuntary manslaughter but she was charged and convicted on the higher crime of murder.

That's light for murder.

But at the end of the day, the jury has decided.

Its because she is a fucking woman. If it were a man, he would have gotten 25 to life. Look at the pedo teachers. Women get probation or lessor sentence then men.

 

[W54/XM-388]

100% agree. It's the justice system at work. It is an incredibly light sentence for murder 2 given the publicly available evidence. It is what is is.

Two lives, two families, and community relations destroyed due to poor judgment and decision making ability.

Sad shit all around

Well according to the Texas Rangers investigation team (supposed to be the ones keeping local LE in check), she did NOTHING wrong and it was just a "Tragic Accident" and she shouldn't have been charged... they actually said that and were going to say so in court, but were blocked from saying it directly.

I mean if they say all good, there should be no charges for that case, you have to wonder is there anything they would actually suggest one of their kind did wrong?

 

[theLBC]

Yes, always lock doors.

Like you I am continually perplexed why people leave their vehicles and homes unlocked on the regular. They are unintentional professional victims... Private Pyle Syndrome.

wasn't the door ajar because it was broken?

do open border idiots lock their own doors? fucking A they do.

 

[Snuby642]

Ya home security not so difficult.
1. Wienerhoundt for anklels / nuts.
2. Wise houndt, lab nuts throat.
3. Semi auto, + extra mag in reach
4. 12g pump, side saddle 00 buck rack
5. Wife's guns stuffed all over.
6.Go to safe and get good stuff.

 

[RyanScott]

I did and here it is from Penal Code 19.02 b (2) as amended so you can read it again too.

(2) intends to cause serious bodily injury and commits an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of an individual;

The fact she fired an aimed shot even in his direction satisfies the bolded underlined part of the statute. There is no requirement of "intent to kill" in the statute. ( nor would an "intent to wound" nullify it)

Granted she accepted item (1) in the statute under oath but even if she had not, her actions viewed against the totality of the circumstances meet the requirement of murder as qualified in section 2. under Texas law

anything else?

Read the murder statue. It’s a perfect fit, once the jury decides that she did not make a reasonable mistake of fact. If you intentionally kill someone in a place you have no right to be, it’s not self defense

There must be some significant evidence presented that was not reported in the media

No, her defense that she intentionally killed him to protect her property fell apart when the jury decided she wasn’t reasonable in mistaking his apartment for hers.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Read the murder statue. It’s a perfect fit, once the jury decides that she did not make a reasonable mistake of fact. If you intentionally kill someone in a place you have no right to be, it’s not self defense

No, her defense that she intentionally killed him to protect her property fell apart when the jury decided she wasn’t reasonable in mistaking his apartment for hers.

At the end of the day she still only got 5-10 years which is ridiculous. I’m sorry but I have no sympathy for someone that can make that kind of mistake and a series of blatant mistakes to boot. If I was on that jury there is no way I’d have been down for that sentencing. She basically got away without straight up murdering this dude.

 

[RyanScott]

I don’t know that a 10 year murder sentence is the positive outcome she was hoping for.

 

[Renegade]

Well according to the Texas Rangers investigation team (supposed to be the ones keeping local LE in check), she did NOTHING wrong and it was just a "Tragic Accident" and she shouldn't have been charged... they actually said that and were going to say so in court, but were blocked from saying it directly.

It was the Texas Rangers that filed the original arrest warrant. One Lone Ranger, before having all of the evidence (less than 3 days after shooting), thought no crime was committed and she should not be charged. In Texas, charging decisions are made by a Grand Jury, with assistance from DA. To say it politely, nobody gives a phuck what some non-lawyer cop thinks about guilt or innocence. Hence why Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has never allowed such testimony.

 

[308pirate]

Things that make you go hhhmmmmmm......................

Key witness in Amber Guyger murder trial shot and killed days after guilty verdict

A key witness in the murder trial of Dallas police officer Amber Guyger was shot and killed at an apartment complex late Friday, according to an attorney representing the family of the man Guyger shot.

www.foxnews.com

My money is on rogue cops

 

[W54/XM-388]

That does seem highly suspicious as he was a key witness and I'm sure there is going to be a whole bunch of appeals.
Now it could be nothing & just the normal African-American on African-American violence over drugs or such, but the optics on it really give you some pause. Oh and "The Case is now with the Dallas Police Department" to investigate his murder......... I'm sure it will get top priority... not...