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Would you support age restriction on semi-auto firearms?
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i know i know......youre thinking that if i were just a little bit older, and you were just a little bit younger.......but im sorry mate....im taken
but ill tell you what ill do, i put you the waiting list.....you are currently 5th in line, right after Veer
Sorry youngster, but you're not my type (and I'm taken as well).
What I was really thinking was that your posts tend to match your age; fiery, spirited, but with a lack of depth that years tend to bring with them. It's not a bad thing, or a good thing; it's just the way it works I suppose.As for the original question. No, because I don't think it really addresses the current problem they're trying to solve. It's much deeper and complex than just an age limit.
The answer is and always will be no to any new gun laws. They do nothing.
Our actual problem is the fact that people who don't like our 2nd Amendment rights always want to 'talk' about them and want to take them away because of some 'its for the children' bullshit. We need to stop talking about it with them, we need to stop negotiating, we need to stop rationalizing and we need to stop debating it.
The answer needs to be a universal fuck off that is constantly reinforced until these idiots realize that the idea of trying to 'talk' to us about it has absolutely less than 0% chance of happening.
Stop talking about it. Stop listening to their bullshit. Just say no and move on. I don't want to debate you; your opinion means jack shit zero in relation to God given rights.
Our actual problem is the fact that people who don't like our 2nd Amendment rights always want to 'talk' about them and want to take them away because of some 'its for the children' bullshit. We need to stop talking about it with them, we need to stop negotiating, we need to stop rationalizing and we need to stop debating it.
The answer needs to be a universal fuck off that is constantly reinforced until these idiots realize that the idea of trying to 'talk' to us about it has absolutely less than 0% chance of happening.
Stop talking about it. Stop listening to their bullshit. Just say no and move on. I don't want to debate you; your opinion means jack shit zero in relation to God given rights.
At age 22, Alexender Hamilton was aide to General George Washington and was maneuvering large units of troops in the Revolutionary War.
Steve Jobs had co-invented the Apple computer at 20. (Woz was not much older...)
Audie Murphy won the Medal of Honor at 20 and within 5 months was the most decorated soldier in the U.S. Military.
Einstein at 25 had figured out his Theory of General Relativity (his Miracle Year when these papers were published was 1905, when he was 26) He had developed these theories between 22 and 25 years of age.
At age 22, Theodore Roosevelt published his book The Naval War of 1812, still one of the definitive books on the war... and a book still used as a standard for the study of naval warfare.
Mozart was a Court Composer in Austria at 17.
How many kids in Afghanistan and Africa are on their own, living (and dying) and often fighting... at 12 or 14? While American kids are still coddled and insulated... with mommy holding their hands crossing the road (trust me... they still do that with teenagers).
I can go on...
So are we making the argument that now the U.S. child is so coddled, insulated, un-worldly and incapable... and has been raised with so little understanding of the world that they are no longer capable of being considered mature at age 24? Is their brain development now so hampered by the cozy nests that they can't be considered mature until what used-to-be-considered... well into adulthood?
Because if those arguments are going to be made, is that the same as saying that the age of majority can't be reached until 24? You are on your parents health insurance until 26... is that when childhood ends?
The wider argument, and the one that it seems like the Progressive far left is making... is that adults are now really children. And they must be taken care of... by adults and by government. If we are going to argue that Americans... for 1/3rd of their life (average life expectancy is still about 75) are incapable of making decisions... then are we relegated to a society where elites are making decisions for everyone?
For sake of argument... is this also simply the natural course of a society? A young and nascent nation that is struggling for wealth and lifestyle... requires that its people grow up fast and contribute. A wealthy society can rest on its laurels... an apt analogy for, say, Rome. And Greece before that. And Byzantium. And Britain in the 19th Century... does the rot and decay start with its idle youth and parents who expect nothing?
Empires don't last. And wealthy societys invariably crumble, becoming replaced by 'hungry' aspirant societies. Is that what we are arguing is going on?
I'd like to think, being the optimist, that our best days are still ahead of us. But if the argument is going to be that our citizens are so feeble-minded that they can't make decisions and are immature well past the age where they should be doing everything from living their lives to inventing computers and composing symphonies... then maybe we just should be controlled by an elite. Given our Soma, bread and circuses. And let the place spin apart.
I'd rather fight than let that happen. Tooth and nail. But there are other forces who want to accelerate the process. Because they want to be the ones in charge. After all, they went to Harvard. They know better. And they have done a great job taking over the weak minds of the little retards... raised by equally-coddled parents. Vicious cycle.
Well, I've rambled enough.
Sirhr
Steve Jobs had co-invented the Apple computer at 20. (Woz was not much older...)
Audie Murphy won the Medal of Honor at 20 and within 5 months was the most decorated soldier in the U.S. Military.
Einstein at 25 had figured out his Theory of General Relativity (his Miracle Year when these papers were published was 1905, when he was 26) He had developed these theories between 22 and 25 years of age.
At age 22, Theodore Roosevelt published his book The Naval War of 1812, still one of the definitive books on the war... and a book still used as a standard for the study of naval warfare.
Mozart was a Court Composer in Austria at 17.
How many kids in Afghanistan and Africa are on their own, living (and dying) and often fighting... at 12 or 14? While American kids are still coddled and insulated... with mommy holding their hands crossing the road (trust me... they still do that with teenagers).
I can go on...
So are we making the argument that now the U.S. child is so coddled, insulated, un-worldly and incapable... and has been raised with so little understanding of the world that they are no longer capable of being considered mature at age 24? Is their brain development now so hampered by the cozy nests that they can't be considered mature until what used-to-be-considered... well into adulthood?
Because if those arguments are going to be made, is that the same as saying that the age of majority can't be reached until 24? You are on your parents health insurance until 26... is that when childhood ends?
The wider argument, and the one that it seems like the Progressive far left is making... is that adults are now really children. And they must be taken care of... by adults and by government. If we are going to argue that Americans... for 1/3rd of their life (average life expectancy is still about 75) are incapable of making decisions... then are we relegated to a society where elites are making decisions for everyone?
For sake of argument... is this also simply the natural course of a society? A young and nascent nation that is struggling for wealth and lifestyle... requires that its people grow up fast and contribute. A wealthy society can rest on its laurels... an apt analogy for, say, Rome. And Greece before that. And Byzantium. And Britain in the 19th Century... does the rot and decay start with its idle youth and parents who expect nothing?
Empires don't last. And wealthy societys invariably crumble, becoming replaced by 'hungry' aspirant societies. Is that what we are arguing is going on?
I'd like to think, being the optimist, that our best days are still ahead of us. But if the argument is going to be that our citizens are so feeble-minded that they can't make decisions and are immature well past the age where they should be doing everything from living their lives to inventing computers and composing symphonies... then maybe we just should be controlled by an elite. Given our Soma, bread and circuses. And let the place spin apart.
I'd rather fight than let that happen. Tooth and nail. But there are other forces who want to accelerate the process. Because they want to be the ones in charge. After all, they went to Harvard. They know better. And they have done a great job taking over the weak minds of the little retards... raised by equally-coddled parents. Vicious cycle.
Well, I've rambled enough.
Sirhr
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Sorry youngster, but you're not my type (and I'm taken as well).
hey man, i add depth where its needed.......some people can only hand the tip.......but when needed, Big C can lay into them with the whole 3"....
Trouble is the youth of today can't communicate without either a keyboard or without aggression mouthing off, So right away reason and respect goes out the window, they think that they have a right to take respect without earning it, That don't wear well with me, I don't take crap from my own kids as old as they are so I'll be £$%@ed if I am going to take it from somebody elses kids.
John.
John.
IF, we can have background checks for voter ID and driver's license AND only those things for US Citizens, AND raise the draft age to 21 AND raise the voter age to 21 to match the drinking age. If those things could be made iron-c;lad, after that, I might be willing to have a discussion. Purchase does not mean possession, so as long as they don't figure that out. But that would all be a non-starter for the libs, so, no.
I'm all in for a fuck no and a fuck off on any age jump BS. Everybody here had better be letting their reps know too. Just yakking about it here does nothing. Get involved, that's one thing these kids got going on right, however misdirected.
I think you should have a state or federal licenses to call what you cooked barbecue, lot of abuse going on there.
If you are serving the country you should have full rights! No waiting.
Guns booze the whole enchilada regaurdless of some shit state or fedral law!
For those that won't serve, let them wait like a dog (stray that is)!
For those that cannot, god bless and you can have some of my BBQ that I serve for the active and vets.
Just because I'm old I don't intend to give up my grand children's rights! Thats how they break unions by the way.
If you are serving the country you should have full rights! No waiting.
Guns booze the whole enchilada regaurdless of some shit state or fedral law!
For those that won't serve, let them wait like a dog (stray that is)!
For those that cannot, god bless and you can have some of my BBQ that I serve for the active and vets.
Just because I'm old I don't intend to give up my grand children's rights! Thats how they break unions by the way.
It's on the News over here now, stating that they the powers that be won't even discus it, so all the bleeding hearts are out protesting, Yes it is a tragic thing but millions of Americans should not be victimized because of one crackpot,
John.
John.
That certainly fills in a couple blanks.
i know i know......youre thinking that if i were just a little bit older, and you were just a little bit younger.......but im sorry mate....im taken
but ill tell you what ill do, i put you the waiting list.....you are currently 5th in line, right after Veer
Knock yourself out, PMI. His broke ass couldn't afford me. Besides, nobody's getting around his nº 1 ...
I cannot understand why people are so quick to give their rights away. Our founding father's thought it was so important that citizens be able to bear arms. Yet today we have these kids and adults marching and actually demanding to give up their rights. No thank you.
When I was 20 years old I was on my way to VietNam but too young to buy a beer at the bar and too young to vote but at 18 years old was old enough to be drafted and sent to war.
Make it one way or the other, be it 18 and vote or 21 and go where you want and do what you want.
All of these knee jerk reactions are just that, Knee JERK but doesn't it make you feel warm and fuzzy that you changed something? It's for the children.
FUCK all of these reactionary thoughts and do some thinking.
Tough to do for a liberal Democrap and FUCK all of these warm fuzzy feelers. Start thinking and make it all one way or the other.
I have a brother in law that at age 48 has no idea as to what goes on in this world and is spouting all of this gun control crap yet has never fired 1 round in his life.
Total waste of air as far as I am concerned.
He looked a my RR Nat.Match grade AR15 that has shot nothing but fine scores on paper, has no bayonet lug nor flash suppresor, just a fine grade SS barrel and the first words out of his stupid mouth were,"That looks dangerous."
You can't fix STUPID. FM
Make it one way or the other, be it 18 and vote or 21 and go where you want and do what you want.
All of these knee jerk reactions are just that, Knee JERK but doesn't it make you feel warm and fuzzy that you changed something? It's for the children.
FUCK all of these reactionary thoughts and do some thinking.
Tough to do for a liberal Democrap and FUCK all of these warm fuzzy feelers. Start thinking and make it all one way or the other.
I have a brother in law that at age 48 has no idea as to what goes on in this world and is spouting all of this gun control crap yet has never fired 1 round in his life.
Total waste of air as far as I am concerned.
He looked a my RR Nat.Match grade AR15 that has shot nothing but fine scores on paper, has no bayonet lug nor flash suppresor, just a fine grade SS barrel and the first words out of his stupid mouth were,"That looks dangerous."
You can't fix STUPID. FM
Yeah how on earth can they put you in that position yet you can't buy a Beer. That was one of the worse times in history of how a country treated it's young men because of bad government and lack of support once they came home. I will never except that.
John.
Well Rubio just stated he is now reconsidering magazine capacity restrictions. Didn’t take long to move on from bump stocks. Give up nothing. Ever.
Yeah and people need to put a stop to that from the get go, because all that will do is destroy a lot of competitions and give the them the upper hand which the 2nd Amendment Rules against.
John.
Gents,
Lots of what has been written in this forum gives me hope. This proposed age restriction is dumb. Human rights are not up for a vote. Again, the patriotism and adherence to the Constitution gives me hope. However, we'd be smart to leave the emotion and the profanity for those who hate us. If you've ever served with me then this sounds hypocritical, but it's never too late to start doing the right thing.
I'm sure some on here are as patriotic as Sam Adams, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln, and what those guys left behind is pure gold. Priceless. Both our Freedom and their words. They said things I teach to my four year old son. Last weekend he and I watched a speech by Roy Benavidez. We should conduct ourselves in thought, word, and deed like these great men, because most of you are great men who have done great things and you have great things to say. It'd be nice if your kids (and mine) and your preacher could read them. Your hearts are in the right place but your language is not.
WRT "conversations," most people do not have a copy of the Constitution so they don't know what it says. A shame, because you can probably get one for free. Send me a PM and I'll mail you a few. (Assuming of course, that you're debating with someone who recognizes Constitutional authority and submits to the same, our opponents do not) This whole "conversation" is a glorified version of "two legs bad, four legs good!"
Please, for our sake, keep it clean, and keep being all you can be or one of a few good men.
God bless you and
God bless America
Lots of what has been written in this forum gives me hope. This proposed age restriction is dumb. Human rights are not up for a vote. Again, the patriotism and adherence to the Constitution gives me hope. However, we'd be smart to leave the emotion and the profanity for those who hate us. If you've ever served with me then this sounds hypocritical, but it's never too late to start doing the right thing.
I'm sure some on here are as patriotic as Sam Adams, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln, and what those guys left behind is pure gold. Priceless. Both our Freedom and their words. They said things I teach to my four year old son. Last weekend he and I watched a speech by Roy Benavidez. We should conduct ourselves in thought, word, and deed like these great men, because most of you are great men who have done great things and you have great things to say. It'd be nice if your kids (and mine) and your preacher could read them. Your hearts are in the right place but your language is not.
WRT "conversations," most people do not have a copy of the Constitution so they don't know what it says. A shame, because you can probably get one for free. Send me a PM and I'll mail you a few. (Assuming of course, that you're debating with someone who recognizes Constitutional authority and submits to the same, our opponents do not) This whole "conversation" is a glorified version of "two legs bad, four legs good!"
Please, for our sake, keep it clean, and keep being all you can be or one of a few good men.
God bless you and
God bless America
Watching the CNN town hall I realize one thing. WE ARE SO FUCKED. Buy ammo as @ArmyJerry says in every thread. (Now that I think about it, it might have been 308pirate that said that and we know what happened there)
We are in for the fight of our lives.
We are in for the fight of our lives.
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So true. Not to go all tinfoil hat... but the gun “control” debate is just that. A method of control. It isn’t about the bump stocks. It’s not about triggers or other methods that increase fire rate, or magazines that carry 30 or more. It’s just methods to control, limit the availability and infringe on the rights of the American people. It’s not about JUST those things. It’s about ALL of the things. They take and take and take just a little bit at a time till there is nothing left to infringe upon.
The problem with saying that we need to put an “ age limit” or some other type of regulation on people, is that you are basically saying that you have decided that some adults don’t need firearms. That is a very slippery slope to go down because now you have given people the right to say that other people don’t “Need” or “have the right” to own a certain thing. Once you have given people that ability it is in the wrong hands. They can now essentially decide if ANYONE should be able to have firearms, and as we have seen time and time again. Some people out there don’t exactly have the best intentions in mind when making decisions like that, and they aren’t worried about your rights or anything else like that. They have their own agenda, that is often bought. Power corrupts and putting that in people’s hands is the wrong thing to do. Now I’m not saying that EVERYONE should have guns so don’t take that out of context. We have enough laws on the books right now that should cover us. Dangerous and violent criminals, sex offenders, mentally unstable or disturbed people obviously should not, and they don’t. Legally. But no existing gun laws or proposed gun laws would have stopped the murder of those people most recently.
What people sometimes fail to realize is that our right to bear arms very well be a generation away from existing, and this is exactly how they do it. A generational “Slow Play” that demonizes firearms and changes the culture to be anti gun, anti freedom, and anti American. As gun owners we no longer option to, but the responsibility to stand up for what is right, and recognize this for what it truely is. Even when times are gloom and it’s not popular or trendy to like or own guns. If we bend over and let people chip away at our rights because of some backlash or unpopular opinions on firearm ownership, it’s that same mentality and “compromise” that will leave us with nothing left.
Fucking Dana loesch is getting destroyed. She got set up. Colin noir should be there not her. Well I’m out. I’m off to ammoseek.
No kids still drink/get alcohol under the age of 21.
21 year olds still drive just as bad as 16 year olds.
Still tons of kids under 21 who legally own handguns who arent shooting people up.
21 year olds still drive just as bad as 16 year olds.
Still tons of kids under 21 who legally own handguns who arent shooting people up.
why does the NRA even bother going to these fucking things?.....youd think theyd learn by now that they will go out of their way to make the NRA look stupid....the NRA could make the best and most well thought out reply, and CNN will always twist the words and strut around and bawk.....it would be like the jews going to a debate hosted by joseph goebbels.
let them bitch and moan without us....
I think that perhaps todays youth should be "made" to serve. Much like Israel and other countries. this way they can see for themselves and come face to face with true evil in this world that not only wants harm them but utterly decimate them. Instead of the stories the left tell them about how poor hadji only wants to love them........I would bet then, they're Facebook, Instagram etc...., online little unreal worlds will very quickly become ....well, let's say not as important as they are right now. As a bonus most will learn the true meaning off respect and how to both give and get it. The wolves are knocking at our doors and coming up through the basement. Now is certainly not time to lay down our means of defense and become sheep. thats what those who look to disarm us are .....sheep and wolves.
I think there is definitly a continuity issue. 18 to vote 21 to drink, 18 on a rifle 21 on a hand gun, 26 on your parents insurance cause no one these days expects you to really be standing on your own yet.
Consistency is important but logic and sound reasoning is more important
Consistency is important but logic and sound reasoning is more important
Q
QuickNDirty
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I didn't disregard the rest of your post, which the rest of was also spot on, but I'm picking this paragraph specifically to state the following: I realized that my profanity on this board was borderline excessive. That might be an understatement. I'm making a conscious effort to calm that down a bit.
I began, in earnest, at the age of about 12 studying many different issues that, at the time, were fairly significant in my mind, and I would formulate opinions, responses, etc in as prim and proper a manner as I could muster. The type of wording that would have made my grandmother proud. Not quite Veer_G level, but he was probably 75 or so back then. (Just kidding, Veer. You were maybe 44 1/2)
I tried to read this entire thread, but there were so many things I wanted to address, and which all converged on a point where I'm at right now, that I said, as sirh might put it, F@%$ it, I'm going to skip to the end and throw my two cents in.
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It gives me great hope to see that so many here believe that the constituion should always be considered first, and must never be ignored.
Indeed, the issues we face today are as deep as they are wide. In every facet of our lives, there are an almost incomprehensible amount of injustices being conducted regularly. Today it is a common practice, and may well be referred to as a culture of technicality, for an interested party to seek some perceived alternative route, or 'loop hole', that somehow mitigates a check or a balance which is meant to prohibit him from committing an act which, upon closer analysis, will reduce to little more than acting in a hostile (e.g., extortion, theft, bribery, renegadism, espionage) manner to satisfy one's own end.
As a result of this, we can see a common resentment toward the very structure of this nation that was once held in the highest esteem.
As I see it, and as simply as I can put it, the spirit of this nation has withered. The things (compassion, integrity, honor, passion, and probably others) that used to hold us together have weakened to a point where one can not be entirely certain that the man living next to him is of good character. Indeed, there appears to be a high degree of disunity among the citizens of this great nation, and a profound lack of ability to restore any of it.
From my own experiences I've been shown that a general unwillingness exists in the physical world to acknowledge and engage each other. So common is it that a conversation with a stranger ever makes it passed basic trivialities. I am guilty of this as well. Throughout the years, attempting to engage others in conversation about topics affecting our way of life, I am met with uninteresting regurgitations of either a passive, condescending, or enraged nature. This inertia has lead me to accept that the uniformity of forums where people like me can be found are my best venue for understanding where we're at, and what is likely to come next.
On the internet, however, we all seem to have the time to carry our thoughts as far as they will take us, and to vocalize them without regard for much of anything. It is truly a blessed place, where there is little, if any, concern for the consequences of stating plainly how we feel, and exactly what our thoughts are on the topic at hand, and especially with very little regard for who all might be listening. Doubly so when drunk.
I believe this is the last best hope for us all. There is, however, an inadequacy.
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It has been shown to me many times throughout my life that the general state of things was an unceasing progression toward a state of absolute despotism. Where the next year reveals that the year preceding it was, indeed, a better year for us as a nation. While it was obvious to me many years ago that a concerted effort was underway to completely eradicate the spirit of our nation, and to thoroughly break down every fundamental element that makes the United States of America the unique and wonderful country that she is, the idea that it was all coming to an end was not something that people were willing to consider.
The idea that what we have will be lost. The idea that we are at war and we not moving. The idea that the enemies are attacking us and we are ignoring it. I was also not in a very good position to try to convince anyone of anything.
What I've seen, and I am as guilty of it as anyone else, is a lack of action on the part of the men who've been entrusted to secure the existence of our way of life. It has progressed to a point where our enemies may organize freely in most any manner, at any place and time, and without consequence. These opposing forces are funded directly or indirectly by taxpayers, or by individuals and organizations, and we are unable to form a formidable opposition, much less go on the offense.
To be short and Frank, we are doing a very poor job of defeating the enemy. If this were a game, most of us would be kids in the field paying attention to insects instead of objectives. What few teamates we have would be screaming, "WHY ARE YOU PLAYING WITH BUGS? WE ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED OVER HERE!", while members of the opposing team would be complaining about not getting enough action because the truly ruthless on their team were taking full advantage of the inoperable and distracted opposing forces.
It is my current objective to deliver a mechanism which will allow men across the nation to not only discuss the enemy as we do on this board, and on many other boards, but also to act together to overcome whatever evil is fearlessly staring them right in the face. My hope is that the time for this idea has come, and we may finally organize our men in a way that is effective in our struggle to continue the magnificent idea that our founding fathers envisioned and risked their lives to establish, and which descendant generations risked their lives to maintain.
This objective is not an easy one. Anywhere there is discourse, there is a potential for corruption. Corruption not just in the sense that people won't be able to form a consensus on anything and will deteriorate into mindless insults and excuses, but where the most if not all prominent figures in the debate will actually be owned by a single entity, and will be used to control the thoughts and feelings of all the sides in a way that benefits the only side that matters in that instance; the side of the owner.
The general idea is to level the playing field of organization. To eliminate the possibility for the absurdly rich bad actors to have any influence whatsoever on the efforts to organize our resistance. To ensure that it is possible to discuss hard topics without the threat of imminent censorship, shilling, doxing and loss of income as a result of something you said on some platform, and so forth. To enable the individuals of this great country to assemble and defeat those forces which threaten our very existence with an expectation of stability, privacy, and order. To enable us all to become a regular militia. To enable us all to be a force you CANNOT fuck with.
It is also my hope that through the perilous journey to re-establishing our freedom and independence, new bonds are formed, old burnt bridges are rebuilt better than ever, and we have a community nation-wide that isn't afraid to be honest with each other in person. One that has stronger bridges than those that were previously burnt by socialists convincing a group that another group hates them, while simultaneously convincing the other group that the first group also hates them. So strong that we all realize none of us would ever hate one another. We may think they're retarded, and they may think we're retarded, but that is fine. We'll still communicate and conduct ourselves in a dignified manner. We're all Americans, after all.
Bam.. One curse word in the whole thing. That's some good shit right there.
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People come to this forum to vent frustration with like minds, many are mil/vets and some are old school.
If the language gets bad or the grammar offends you please get over it by going to another forum!
Many vent here to chill before they attend service perhaps or just genarly go back to thier stupid workplace PC environment.
Had a local church elder ask what the flag with 2 stars on my door ment.
Proudly told him that both my sons were serving the USA, signed at 17 with my permission.
He stupidly said that we (local church) "don't send our kids to war"!
Told him to get off my lawn and don't come back!
Not a Mormon but have some family ties, like how they roll on that,
Your 18, pick church or country (service) and get out the house!
I think browbeating people on this site for thier language is way too thumpy for most of us!
Go and prey for my ruination! Scarface26
Just go! Before you have to see another obsenity, oh my!
If the language gets bad or the grammar offends you please get over it by going to another forum!
Many vent here to chill before they attend service perhaps or just genarly go back to thier stupid workplace PC environment.
Had a local church elder ask what the flag with 2 stars on my door ment.
Proudly told him that both my sons were serving the USA, signed at 17 with my permission.
He stupidly said that we (local church) "don't send our kids to war"!
Told him to get off my lawn and don't come back!
Not a Mormon but have some family ties, like how they roll on that,
Your 18, pick church or country (service) and get out the house!
I think browbeating people on this site for thier language is way too thumpy for most of us!
Go and prey for my ruination! Scarface26
Just go! Before you have to see another obsenity, oh my!
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While our country remains untainted with the principles and manners which are now producing desolation in so many parts of the world; while she continues sincere, and incapable of insidious and impious policy, we shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned us by Providence. But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another, and towards foreign nations, which assumes the language of justice and moderation, while it is practising iniquity and extravagance, and displays in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candour, frankness, and sincerity, while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world. Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations. That which you have taken, and so solemnly repeated on that venerable ground, is an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government. - John Adams
We, as a whole, have no morals. We have no religion. It breaks my heart watching our country (that generations of my family fought, bled and died for) falls apart while the vultures fight over the scraps. The fires of Rome have been lit, it's only a matter of time before we all watch it burn.
We, as a whole, have no morals. We have no religion. It breaks my heart watching our country (that generations of my family fought, bled and died for) falls apart while the vultures fight over the scraps. The fires of Rome have been lit, it's only a matter of time before we all watch it burn.
Q
QuickNDirty
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The point wasn't that profanity is offensive. The point is that it complicates dissemination and can be distracting to the reader when used excessively.
It has a much bigger effect than that, It proves to the leftys what an unstable bunch we are and that such persons get volatile over the slightest thing,
Based on that alone I think that people should vent their anger in private, And Yes I know people should be free to vent as they see fit but if they do then it will be used against you/us you can bank on that, and by showing such aggression you are playing right in to their hands and we will only have our selves to blame,
John.
fuck that noise.
being angry and vocal doesnt prove jack shit......other than that we are human......me calling someone a fucking assholes doesnt mean im going to whip out a gun and shoot people......just because anti bawk doesnt make it true.
personally i dont give a fuck what antis think......me just owning a gun makes me a violent unstable person in their eyes......its doesnt matter if i act like a fucking saint.
enough of my actions are already limited by those cock bags......im sure as hell not going to volunteer any more control to them.....if im pissed, im gonna be fucking pissed.....antis can go suck dick.
theyre already trying to take away my 2A.....im sure as fuck not going to let them take away my 1st.
especially not on a gun forum......i have to be friendly, and PC all fucking day........in not going to continue to censor myself in the one place i am free to do it.
gun owners have been docile too fucking long.....always wanting to turn the other cheek...its about time we started raising a stink and get vocal......maybe actually start acting as pissed off as we claim to be.
you people continue to act like owning guns is a privilege....ITS NOT.......im willing to bet if someone told you you needed a license to speak in public, needed to pay a fee to practice a religion....or had to have a background check to post online, you wouldnt be this "polite".
if you all want to be happy go lucky and friendly and bullshit.....im sure TheHighRoad would love to have you.......they love shit like that
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Question is, Would it even matter?
Private Sales are allowed in our state without any type of registration like some states. So it really wouldn't matter.
I wouldn't support it. I don't support frivolous laws.
Private Sales are allowed in our state without any type of registration like some states. So it really wouldn't matter.
I wouldn't support it. I don't support frivolous laws.
If you reread what I wrote I said they should vent their anger in private, I did not say anyone was angry, But judging by your attitude to me because I try to warn people to be careful of what they say, You are the prime example of what the government are looking for as an excuse to bring in Laws or Bans, and as such "you" deserve what you get, I feel sorry for the guys here who do keep it under control because they work hard to keep things in the best possible light. And if this does come back to bite people and I hope it don't, But the blame lies with those who can't keep a lid on it, I bet a thousand to One they are the first ones to point the finger.Who in the fuck are you calling angry, asshole...LOL
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Gonna disagree with you there, good buddy.
Mcameron is right, the commie shitbags will fuck with us no matter how white our linens are or how well we say shit. They'll find any flaw and use it to make hit pieces that compare us to people that eat babies. Fuck them.
I stand by my statement, though. I wouldn't necessarily want some of my finer work here to be quoted for posterities sake. Although, I'd probably laugh uncontrollably for a while if that shit did manage make it down the pipe.
Ultimately, it's probably not a terrible idea, in threads like this one, to be more cerebral, since this is basically lines being drawn, and shit is getting real. Why don't you run on that sentence for a minute.
Yeah True, But I would prefer not let them know my views before hand, and I understand where he's coming from that I do, But with the help of the media and the leftys they will try their best to twist all this to suit their needs regardless whether it is right or wrong and it is not like you get to Air your side of the Argument with the Gov or the news channels and for the best part your/our voices go unheard.
I just don't trust them so there is no way will I give them the Ammo to fire at me. This thing is way bigger than me and I am not prepared to risk everyone elses right by bustin loose at the Lip.
Gents,
What QND wrote is worth a read. Make sure your brain is on, though, because it's not "see Jane run."
Snubby, no offense meant to either you or the Mass-hole (is that because you can't gain weight, I never could) My only point is this: when you see the libs "talk" about "having a conversation" on our God-given rights, they always seem on the verge of a melt-down. Most of their coms appeal to emotion, not reason, and most are laced with profanity. Neither profanity nor piety equals courage, neither equals integrity. When we get so emotional, we sound just like them.
Remember, you're not in the sanctity of a REAL team room.
Snubby, you ought to be proud of your sons. I hope they're both safe.
Finally, profanity or not, our rights are not up for a vote and if you don't have a Constitution get one. It really does answer this "question" definitively.
Keyboard down and off to work, gym, range.
God bless each of you and God bless America
What QND wrote is worth a read. Make sure your brain is on, though, because it's not "see Jane run."
Snubby, no offense meant to either you or the Mass-hole (is that because you can't gain weight, I never could) My only point is this: when you see the libs "talk" about "having a conversation" on our God-given rights, they always seem on the verge of a melt-down. Most of their coms appeal to emotion, not reason, and most are laced with profanity. Neither profanity nor piety equals courage, neither equals integrity. When we get so emotional, we sound just like them.
Remember, you're not in the sanctity of a REAL team room.
Snubby, you ought to be proud of your sons. I hope they're both safe.
Finally, profanity or not, our rights are not up for a vote and if you don't have a Constitution get one. It really does answer this "question" definitively.
Keyboard down and off to work, gym, range.
God bless each of you and God bless America
Thanks for the words on my sons.
1 came home with an implanted heart monitor, the other with ptsd.
Both finished thier enlistment son 1 stayed for 9 years the other 6.
1 came home with an implanted heart monitor, the other with ptsd.
Both finished thier enlistment son 1 stayed for 9 years the other 6.
Drifting from topic here, man has been killing each other for centuries before the invention of gun. Give me a long stick with a sharp pointy edge and I’ll hunt you a pig.
Neville Chamberlain played way too nice. Was a perfect gentleman with words.
Took a few profane men like George Patton and Terry Allen to clean up his shit. Just sayin.
Good people sleep well in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
It's time some rough men were respected b4 they need to do violence.
Took a few profane men like George Patton and Terry Allen to clean up his shit. Just sayin.
Good people sleep well in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
It's time some rough men were respected b4 they need to do violence.
My wife does. I told her that I don’t support women having firearms, just to be contrary. She got pissy like liberals/women do. I asked “where do we draw the line when using descrimination to remove rights?”
She said at 21
The folks who talk the most about equality and rights are the same ones who talk the most about nazis. I like to talk about cars and guns.
She’d be upset if you assumed that she was the cook, and upset when I pointed out that she is not. Now that I’m all grown up, she’s not the woman that I would seek out. But seeing her when I was young, kick a guy in the face from the rear bumper of a moving pickup, I had to have her.
Lol,,
No disrespect meant. I am not allowed to cook so there is only one person with that title in my house, mistake number One, I made a mess on the stove, Mistake number 2, I used the wrong cleaning products and scratched the stainless finish on the stove top. Never again.,, Some days it just don't pay to try and be helpful.
John.
No disrespect meant. I am not allowed to cook so there is only one person with that title in my house, mistake number One, I made a mess on the stove, Mistake number 2, I used the wrong cleaning products and scratched the stainless finish on the stove top. Never again.,, Some days it just don't pay to try and be helpful.
John.
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