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Join the contest SubscribeInteresting that all other phone creators caved to NSA except apple, your iMessage is secure because they refused to hand over the encryption keys.
Your facetime is secure.
Can't say that about any other carrier or any other phone.
No disrespect intended, just a lil something I read when I investigated which companies caved.
Frank what did you turn off, that your battery isn't effected? It is definitely draining mine.
Interesting that all other phone creators caved to NSA except apple, your iMessage is secure because they refused to hand over the encryption keys.
Your facetime is secure.
Can't say that about any other carrier or any other phone.
The update dropped the ball and I would not be suprised if a service pack or new update comes out but with the tweaks IOS7 works just fine and it's been reliable 7 days running.
No disrespect intended, just a lil something I read when I investigated which companies caved.
Apple now has a new update for ios 7, does anyone know what it does or corrects?
It is quite amusing that many of the folks sporting an apple I phone also talk shit about Chinese made crap when it comes to almost any other product (especially optics)
Exactly!Which European company do you want me to name ?
Not only is this an Apple & oranges comparison, it's stupid at best.
Companies can spec any level of quality they want. When was the last time you saw a High End Spec'd Chinese Optic ?
Irony is the use of words to express other than their intended meaning. Irony can also be the juxtaposition of an actual result and the intended result. Neither are present here.You miss the point.
Folks will send responses to a thread about chinese made products, denigrating those products, using their chinese made phone that they can't seem to live without.
It's called irony, nothing more, nothing less.
It was only an observation.
You may think it is stupid to make an observation, but I do not.
Irony is the use of words to express other than their intended meaning. Irony can also be the juxtaposition of an actual result and the intended result. Neither are present here.
Making an observation isn't stupid. But making a stupid observation may indeed be stupid.
What you are describing could be hypocrisy: The behavior of the person using his phone not conforming with his belief about the quality of that phone.The essential feature of irony is the indirect presentation of a contradiction between an action or expression.
I find that folks using a device wholly manufactured in China as a means to ridicule devices wholly manufactured in China to be ironic.
I would find that to be "Situational Irony"
Situational irony, sometimes called irony of events, is most broadly defined as a situation where the outcome is incongruous with what was expected, but it is also more generally understood as a situation that includes contradictions or sharp contrasts. (Lars Elleström, Divine Madness. Bucknell Univ. Press, 2002).
Thanks for your attention and cloaked insult.
Companies aren't allowed to disclose whether or not they 'cave' to the NSA. It's part of the process, the "court" rubber-stamps an NSA warrant and the company in question is REQUIRED to give over the info and is further REQUIRED to NOT disclose that they have received a warrant. A huge company like AT&T/Apple is going to have a backdoor installed where in ALL data you generate is going to the NSA as you generate it, it's why they have data centers that are capable of storing many petabytes, the data is already there and then they just need a warrant to access it. The only companies that didn't cave, such as Lavabit, had to shut down in order to avoid the data capturing.
In other words, your Facetime/etc. ISN'T secure and never will be. The take-away point here is that the only way to find out which companies caved and which ones didn't is to see what companies are still operating and which ones aren't or in simpler terms; currently-operating = caved.
Of all the people on here, I am surprised at your defense of the fruit company(FC), being that you work in Network Security. FC is the NSAs wet dream; FC has been compiling people's entire lives into portable devices for the 'easiness' of the user, and I admit they do make 'pretty' devices, but the fact that they intentionally limit what the end user can do with their device drives me away from their products. Want more memory? need a new battery? Let alone programs, or 'apps'. Or FC's yearly, new device that incorporates 2 new features that the 'free market', came out with over a year ago. All data is mined now, but FC's devices are the most unattractive when it comes to having to use it.
Plus the new OS is actually making people nauseous, LMAO!
Apple iOS 7 makes some users quite literally SICK. As in puking, not upset ? The Register
Let me restate this, APPLE S TATES: They refuse to respond to the warrant on the iMessage and Facetime, refusal to respond to a warrant is generally the same as refusing to cave.
Room 641A - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- Still believe them? They've been lying to you since at least 2003 and smart money would say those lies have been going on for decades.
"The US government, with assistance from major telecommunications carriers including AT&T, has engaged in a massive illegal dragnet surveillance of domestic communications and communications records of millions of ordinary Americans since at least 2001."
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying
The list of AT&T being in bed with the NSA is as long Google has servers.
Furthermore, how realistic do you really think it is for a company to 'refuse' a warrant? The only company I know of that did was Lavasoft and they went out of business rather than honor the warrant. Simple fact is that the system is set up to make it illegal for a company to disclose that they've even received a warrant. So you'll never know the real story but based on their history, AT&T has and will always cave.
Lavasoft vs apple? Ha.
Citing a wikipedia article LOL - that's funny.
My update was a nightmare. Three days of re-updating, running backups, and reloading data lost between the day of update and "last" backup. Lost a lot of info and the phone is slower and the operating functions look like a toy now.
is it safe to upgrade my ipad mini to 07 now?
OK, lets cite the NSA themselves: Hows this for an obscure reference? Its even Top Secret...