Re: Xtreme Sniper Match...Xtreme Disappointment
I am calling absolute bullshit on this shit bag and he is not only a poser he is a liar!!!
I went thru School in 1993 guess what there was a outline for sniping, a outline for land nav and a outline on man tracking!!
Hell the Marine Corps also has a MCI course for land nave and it teaches everything you can ever want to know about land Nava nd that isnt even 100 pages.
So if this clown thinks he has anything to do with his 2001 outlines he is the biggest FAKE we have seen to date!!
As for Skiles he is good to go, how he is tied into this Bruce clown is yet 2 be seen.
Maybe we should all patrol in red bdu's as well!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Timberwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well the hits just keep on coming. Y'all might find this interesting as I just rec'd this via an email from Bruce (addressing a yahoo group that I'm a member of) regarding this fiasco:
"[Tactical-Rifle] You Guys Might Find These Documents Interesting‏
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Sent: Tue 10/21/08 1:35 AM
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Precision...pdf (62.7 KB), Stalking ...pdf (43.2 KB)
I thought you guys might find these interesting.
Print them out and look at the dates on them.
The Stalking Rules one was completed in 2000.
I did about 20 stalks and the hell week over about an
18 month period. I wrote these stalking rules to summarize
all that I had learned.
At the time, there was no manual on stalking. They had a power point
presentation which was very high level. At the time,
all of these rules were passed around verbally from instructor to student.
Some of these I figured out on my own based on things that
I did or happenned to me at the time. So I used
all of my stalks and the hell week experience, which included
a lot of stalks and team stalks, among other things, to list
all of the rules. I passed these around to the other instructors.
Those of you who've been through the training should recognize
the validity of these rules.
Maybe they have an actual manual now that lists all of this.
I still have the Scout Sniper Instructor Manuals which were given
to me to study carefully. This 8 volume series from the Sniper Instructor
School at Quantico did not even have a section on stalking.
Maybe they have a newer version that has these.
I spent a bunch of time working with a STA platoon at 29 Palms.
At the time, they did a regular qualifier for the Sniper School. For several
of the qualifiers, I did my ballistics lecture,
which took a full day, the same lecture I did at the full school. Then,
we used the handout to train the sniper candidates on stalking methods.
I would walk through each rule, then we'd use myself and other local instructors
to demonstrate how to apply the rules.
I spent time at both the Sniper School and the STA platoon acting as
an OP on the back of a truck, trying to bust the stalking students. I was OK,
but (now) Sgt. Major Bill Skiles was unbeatable -- he had eagle eyes.
At one time, I hosted a class in Tactical Methods. Bill was the primary OP.
I stalked from 250 yards out to within 10 yards of him in RED BDUs, no ghillie.
This is no BS guys. Bill took the red BDUs back to the school. He wanted
to get the instructors to stalk using red BDUs.
The Precision Shooting Checklist is what I use in my classes today.
This is the technique that I learned at that time I did the Marksmanship
training. I kept careful notes and the exercises that I recorded are used
in my Field Methods class.
Note the date on this checklist -- 2001. I did this checklist in order to
prepare a handout for a private class. I was hired to teach a class to the
CEO, the USA President, and the Marketing Mgr of Accuracy International.
Day 1 was on the range, Day 2 was up in the mountains. Then, we came
back and on Day 3 spent the day as my guest at the Sniper School, letting
all of the students in that class shoot the AI/AW.
I have a 200 page very formal ballistics class -- both practical and theory --
that I spent 8 hours delivering every class for about 2 years.
I also have a 100 page Land Navigation book/class handout that takes you through
a series of lectures and activities and ends up with a series of longer and longer
navigation exercises. This uses the UTM coordinate system, which is pretty much
the same as the MGRS system used by the Marines.
Finally, I have a full class syllabus that I have generated for tactical mantracking.
This uses a lot of materiels generated by David Scott Donelon. These were done
after I left the Sniper School, because they didn't teach this stuff.
Look, you can believe what you want. But, this is the real stuff.
This is all my original materials generated by taking training and by
trying to help the other instructors become better at what they did.
Bruce" </div></div>