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You think you be hunting,but maybe you be the hunted.
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This has been making the rounds for a while. You move like prey, cat's going to treat you like prey.
If he had put the camera down and both hands on that gun he might have actually hit it.
I just don't understand the hesitation, I would have killed it way before it lunged. Why even take the chance, especially when you shoot like trash?
In fact, that should be considered a legitimate legal defense:
"Why did you start shooting at that grizzly at 200 feet away?"
"Well, I just stuff this pistol in my bino harness every year, but I never shoot it. I was lucky to get a hit in a magazine with 17rds.".
I just don't understand the hesitation, I would have killed it way before it lunged. Why even take the chance, especially when you shoot like trash?
In fact, that should be considered a legitimate legal defense:
"Why did you start shooting at that grizzly at 200 feet away?"
"Well, I just stuff this pistol in my bino harness every year, but I never shoot it. I was lucky to get a hit in a magazine with 17rds.".
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Why does an elk hunter have a pistol anyway? He must hunt close to the truck.
Its a beautiful animal, I dont think he wanted to kill it just scare it away. I would have fired a couple warning shots much earlier.
Back up, like he used it. much more maneuverable at CQ than a Win mag.
Better to have access to a pistol than to have to stab a mountain lion with an arrow…
I understand that line of thinking, but here is an animal that is not afraid of humans and clearly predatory towards them. He fires a few warning shots which had almost no effect, and it runs over the next hill and grabs someone's kid. I think you should probably kill any animal that is ready to attack a human for food, even once..
And I understand that line of thinking. It would depend on where I was. If yore in the middle of nowhere let it go.
He was likely bow hunting. Maybe calling and had the cat come in in. I doubt he had a rifle. I would have shot that cat long before he did, and I would not have missed. Of course, I always had a lion tag when I lived and hunted in Idaho.
Why wouldn’t he have a pistol? You leave your CCW firearm at home, when hunting?
My brother-in-law and I were on an Arizona bull elk hunt in an area next to the Blue Wilderness back in the 2000’s. At the time the feds thought it would be a good idea to reintroduce wolves to the Blue Wilderness. FYI the Blue Wilderness area does not allow any motorized anything. You pack it everything in on your back or your animals.
Anyway after a fresh overnight snow of a foot or so we were working up to the top of a ridge that ended at a stream down in the bottom to look for elk. There was a parallel ridge about ½ mile away and behind that was miles of open meadow. My brother-in-law and I had split to glass a bigger area.
While glassing I saw two wolves on the parallel ridge behind me coming in off the open meadow. They were about a mile away. I watched them for awhile and then went back to looking for a big bull.
We did find elk but no amount of glassing could produce a shootable bull so I got up to leave. As I walked back up to the top of the ridge, I found wolf tracks about 15 yards from my overlook position. As in behind and above me. Those wolves had cut our trail and followed it for a mile plus on the ridge line to give me a look over. Fortunately, they left me alone.
It gave me the willys a bit knowing I was not the only one out hunting that day. Fairly certain my .300 Weatherby Mark V would not have been overly helpful, but I did have my .45 so figure I had a chance had things turned bad.
Plus 1 on hunting with a back up weapon
Anyway after a fresh overnight snow of a foot or so we were working up to the top of a ridge that ended at a stream down in the bottom to look for elk. There was a parallel ridge about ½ mile away and behind that was miles of open meadow. My brother-in-law and I had split to glass a bigger area.
While glassing I saw two wolves on the parallel ridge behind me coming in off the open meadow. They were about a mile away. I watched them for awhile and then went back to looking for a big bull.
We did find elk but no amount of glassing could produce a shootable bull so I got up to leave. As I walked back up to the top of the ridge, I found wolf tracks about 15 yards from my overlook position. As in behind and above me. Those wolves had cut our trail and followed it for a mile plus on the ridge line to give me a look over. Fortunately, they left me alone.
It gave me the willys a bit knowing I was not the only one out hunting that day. Fairly certain my .300 Weatherby Mark V would not have been overly helpful, but I did have my .45 so figure I had a chance had things turned bad.
Plus 1 on hunting with a back up weapon
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If I'm hunting anywhere that has predators bigger than a coyote, I have a pistol in my bino harness. If I'm on public land, no matter the predator situation, I'll probably have it as well. 2 legged idiots are the most dangerous creature in the woods.
Apex predators make the rules out there.
Plan accordingly.
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Plan accordingly.
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I don't think those were warning shots, I think he was too scared to shoot straight. 30k mountain lions in the US and 330,000k humans. We could stand to lose a few.
In the 15-years between 2005 and 2019, dogs killed 521 people in the US alone.
in the 130+ years since 1890, mountain lions have killed 27 people.
you or your kid is VASTLY more likely to get killed by a dog than a mountain lion.
If I am not in the office or on a plane, I am carrying a firearm. Not sure why hunting would be a reason to go unarmed.
I kinda think so too.
At first I thought he was a crappy shot. But then, I realized I'd probably be trembling and breathing real heavy, kind of like when you get buck fever.
Either way, it may have been more helpful if he was using both hands...
Um, holy strawman arguement batman.
I didn't suggest that we kill all of the mountain lions, or that they are a child eating menace. You decided to jump way out into space with that one. My point was simple: you should kill any animal that takes a predatory stance towards humans. I didn't even invent this idea, if a bear attacks a human because she has cubs, no retaliation, if one attacks for predation, it is hunted down and killed. Dogs play no part in this discussion, nor does the likelihood of a kid falling off a swingset or being hit by a car.
Look, batman, I've never been attacked by a mountain lion, but when my kid was small she was attacked and bitten by the neighbors dog on our front porch. The stupid assholes let it roam, because like many pet owners they felt entitled to do so, and when it saw her fear and escape response, it went after her. I was home and killed the Fing thing. Always have a gun handy when living in the country. Our ancestors kept a gun over the door for a reason.
I couldn't give a good GD about your theory that shooting an animal should be limited to whether it intends to eat you, as opposed to 'just' killing you. That doesn't even make sense. The lion was following the guy for the same reason that some dogs will follow you if you cross their path at the wrong time and they get an idea in their head. If my or my kid's life depends on it the animal will get shot. Bear or dog, I don't care.
*edit: after reading your follow up and deciding that arguing with an idiot like you is not worth the effort, I'll just point out that you came out swinging after my first post which was simple unbiased statistics. You took personal affront to the idea that dogs are more dangerous than mountain lions, and decided to attack me for posting it. So F you for being a douchebag.
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You aren't very bright. You're making up arguments that I didn't even make and then pretending to fight with me about them.
Then you're doing the ol snipers hide two step, and went straight to level 1,000 on the virtue signaling front. "If one of those God damn things attacks me or my family..... bla bla bla."
I made a post saying that I would have killed it, you argued that you shouldn't because dogs might attack your kid before the cougar can get there or some such nonsense , and now you're standing on top of virtue signal mountain screaming about how you would kill it.
I figure it's Saturday night and your deep into your whiskey and you aren't thinking straight. The hell of it is, I think you and I agree on every aspect of this and somehow you just picked me out of the crowd as the person you want to argue with tonight. Read what I wrote again and calm down fella, I don't even think we disagree about anything..
If those were warning shots, he is a really damn good shot if those were shots intended to hit the mountain lion, he really sucks........
For stupidest comment of the year, I present to you^^^^^^^
I know @Lapuapalooza very well.
That was tongue in cheek, as a CO resident and elk hunter, he knows a huge portion of hunters here never get 400 yds from their truck or 4 wheeler.
Shhhh……. @powdahound76
You’re ruining my entertainment.
I’ve hunted elk for many years in Colorado. For the longest time, we hunted 6-10 miles from the truck depending which area we hunted. We never had the luxury of carrying anything we absolutely wouldn’t need in the back country, including a pistol.
One of my elk hunting buddies did shoot an elk a few years back with a handgun, so I can’t say handguns were never in elk camp…
One year he also got confronted by a lion. SOB cat showed up from nowhere 15 yards from him. He drew down his .300WM on the damn thing and started yelling and screaming at it. The cat decided to leave.
You’re ruining my entertainment.
I’ve hunted elk for many years in Colorado. For the longest time, we hunted 6-10 miles from the truck depending which area we hunted. We never had the luxury of carrying anything we absolutely wouldn’t need in the back country, including a pistol.
One of my elk hunting buddies did shoot an elk a few years back with a handgun, so I can’t say handguns were never in elk camp…
One year he also got confronted by a lion. SOB cat showed up from nowhere 15 yards from him. He drew down his .300WM on the damn thing and started yelling and screaming at it. The cat decided to leave.
For the whole year? For the win???
You must agree with everything your president has said this year alone then.
Fuck yeah!
I just let the kids know we're getting a mountain lion for Christmas.
We're all super excited.
They're super cuddly, unlike pitbulls.
Jeebuz, don't start with the pitbull bullshit all over again
And whatever you do, NO talk about drag racing engines !
You should lool up how many people have been killed by mountain lions in the U.S. its rediculously low. Like 11 or something since we've been keeping records
Yea, what he said….Jeebuz, don't start with the pitbull bullshit all over again
And whatever you do, NO talk about drag racing engines !
You couldn’t handle that much p*say in yer life and you know it!!!!
And sometimes, when you haven't left the house...........
He shoots about as well as 99% of the people who have handguns in this country. Every now and then I step out of my bubble and see how the people who just buy guns shoot.........OMFG
It's hard to give a fuck about your stats when you're face to face with a cat that wants to eat you.
Please tell me you're really not this stupid
Yeah I watched that several days ago and I think that dude was fortunate to say the least.
All that back peddling while recording and one handing the pistola, one hang of the heel and down you go.
I'd have probably stood my ground and when it became apparent he wanted to eat me I'd have mag dumped him lol.
All that back peddling while recording and one handing the pistola, one hang of the heel and down you go.
I'd have probably stood my ground and when it became apparent he wanted to eat me I'd have mag dumped him lol.
I don't understand the hesitation to shoot it.
Minimum number of deer a lion eats each year is 52. I like hunting deer and elk. And lion tastes good too.
Smoke the damn thing and take it home.
Minimum number of deer a lion eats each year is 52. I like hunting deer and elk. And lion tastes good too.
Smoke the damn thing and take it home.
I bet you eat a lot of Chinese food.
You cook that mountain lion Schezuan or Hunan style?
If you want to hunt while being hunted there's a whole continent for that kind of thing. Somewhere I have a picture of a few guys on a hunting trip in southern Africa sitting around the braai pit enjoying the bush tv and not noticing that what they can't see is the 6 lionesses about 20m from them looking hungrily at some fresh long pig.
I agree i would have put 1 in the dirt right away and if that didnt deter it the second would been in him
If he was that scared he would have dropped the phone and shot the cat.
You sure can tell who the city people are...In Colorado it is a felony not to keep the meat for human consumption...
He should have been scared. If that cat went fight instead of flight at the first shot, he wouldn't have gotten a second.
Somewhere someone posted that maybe he was filming it in case he had to cover his ass in a commie state/no cat tag. Maybe, but my argument would be that if I had to use a pistol, I obviously wasn’t hunting it. Lots of people just buy guns and shoot like shit.
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