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Zelensky showing no respect in Oval Office

Not sure what to think here. Russia invades Ukraine, Zelenksy, with American taxpayer money, minus 10% for the Big guy, fights them to a stalemate. \

Trump wants to quit funding Zelenksy's war and wants Z to come to the table and negotiate peace with Putin, IOW, give Putin what he wants.

Z doesn't have shit to negotiate with without U.S. taxpayer's money, minus 10% for the Big guy. TBO, I'm sure it was way more than 10%, enough to make the swamp millionaires many times over.

How is this going to result in WWIII?
I don't think losing half your resources and 20% of your territory counts as a stalemate. It especially doesn't count when you have had premiere intelligence your country could only dream of and substantial support from the west.

Know your role. Your country would have ceased to exist without our aid saying it simply. It still might if you keep agitating the general populace and those in charge.
 
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Sniper’s Hide: “I don’t want my tax money going to Ukraine!”

Also Sniper’s Hide: “Withdrawing from Afghanistan was bullshit!”

-Stan
Standard Biden ball gargling argument.

Withdrawal from Afghanistan was bullshit. Trump had reduced casualties to ZERO. Better yet, we had a secure air base just down the road. No fucking earthly reason to do it from a commercial airport with zero fucking security. No fucking reason to leave billions of dollars in equipment and no fucking rush to do it.

The Saigon bullshit was theatre for fuckwits like you.
 
Trump isn't not backing Ukraine, the American people have been bank rolling this conflict. My money, your money, my co-worker's money, my family's money, my neighbor's money. To come here and be an ass to MY President, I don't care if it is Biden or Trump......FUCK YOU! Fight your own fucking war! What a POS, I'm glad this went on in front of the media.

Guess how much help he is getting from this administration?
I’m glad it happened on tv so the left couldn’t completely change the narrative. They’ll probably edit it and make it look like we were the aggressors still.
 
Not sure what to think here. Russia invades Ukraine, Zelenksy, with American taxpayer money, minus 10% for the Big guy, fights them to a stalemate. \

Trump wants to quit funding Zelenksy's war and wants Z to come to the table and negotiate peace with Putin, IOW, give Putin what he wants.

Z doesn't have shit to negotiate with without U.S. taxpayer's money, minus 10% for the Big guy. TBO, I'm sure it was way more than 10%, enough to make the swamp millionaires many times over.

How is this going to result in WWIII?
I think what was implied is that Zelenski doesn't want a cease fire. I think he might be pushing Trump to help them take back some of the conquered territory. I'm guessing Trump is pissed because he wants this over with, he got Putin to agree to some semblance of terms that Trump thinks are fair, and Zelensky is whining about the terms because he doesn't like them. That's why Trump keeps saying he "doesn't have the cards". Without the US, zelensky has nothing to bargain with, but he doesn't like Trump's deal.
 
POS shows up in his "Tough Guy" gear, trying to be Mr. Bad A$$. Got used to all that free money and arms. Then to expect more?? F him!
He's been the most disrespectful foreign president I have ever witnessed on main stream media. That's what this F'n last administration has reduced us to. Made us feel/look weak and all we're here for, is to bankroll the F'n world! We have a lot of cleaning up to do, to get our respect back, thanks to the last commie Big Chair shitter we had to endure.
Makes me F'n sick. Mac
 
Z-man: 1, DJT: 0

Trump fancies himself a "brave Soldier" (actual quote) because "his personal Vietnam" was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases.

Trump fancies himself a "wartime President" (actual quote) because COVID was an "enemy."

Zelensky outclassed Trump and took-zero-shit... even when Komrade Vansky tried to raise his voice and talk over him.

Trump surrendered to the Commies on the 100th Anniversary to-the-day of the Communist Revolution. We know exactly what he's going to do, and he's already received his instructions from Putin.

This was a setup- and unlike King Abdullah of TTKOJ, he wasn't going to nod along in the Oval and then release contrary statements on the plane ride home on stupid Twitter.

I actually think Z-man just forged the new template for negotiating with Trump- better than the stupid "hand tap" thing that Macron and Starmer deployed.

This was so beautiful, and I hope that every-single-Russian inside Ukraine gets to watch the vid, or at least hear about it before he dies.
 
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Z-man: 1, DJT: 0

Trump fancies himself a "brave Soldier" (actual quote) because "his personal Vietnam" was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases.

Trump fancies himself a "wartime President" (actual quote) because COVID was an "enemy."

Zelensky outclassed Trump and took-zero-shit... even when Komrade Vansky tried to raise his voice and talk over him.

Trump surrendered to the Commies on the 100th Anniversary to-the-day of the Communist Revolution. We know exactly what he's going to do, and he's already received his instructions from Putin.

This was a setup- and unlike King Abdullah of TTKOJ, he wasn't going to nod along in the Oval and then release contrary statements on the plane ride home on stupid Twitter.

I actually think Z-man just forged the new template for negotiating with Trump- better than the stupid "hand tap" thing that Macron and Starmer deployed.

This was so beautiful, and I hope that every-single-Russian inside Ukraine gets to watch the vid, or at least hear about it before he dies.
Roll another one cheech.
 
The one "trump" card Ukraine has is those precious metals they have and which we want.

Perhaps Putin might get the hint and offer a nice big beautiful real estate deal to Trump.

Putin wants the land, Trump wants what's under the land, they could both get what they want and have extra money to brag about on the side...

Something about mineral rights concessions and of course the new "host country" gets some "royalties" paid back as said rights options are mined...

Putin would probably get richer letting USA corporations extract it all and collecting royalty payments than they ever could trying to extract it themselves.
Trump gets the minerals he wants and stuff and doesn't have to worry about the pesky Z or government, the Russians will make sure the area is nice and clear for "resource mining".
 
You know I don’t support just sending endless amounts of money to Ukraine, but I would have no issue with putting 100,000 troops whether their NATO American European or whatever building some airbases a naval port putting some angry marines on the ground and some big green guys and just having to go at it I mean, I’m tired of delaying the inevitable at some point in time we’re gonna have a direct conflict with a near peer whether it be China or Russia so fucking giddyup let’s do it
thank you senator Grahm
 
Standard Biden ball gargling argument.

Withdrawal from Afghanistan was bullshit. Trump had reduced casualties to ZERO. Better yet, we had a secure air base just down the road. No fucking earthly reason to do it from a commercial airport with zero fucking security. No fucking reason to leave billions of dollars in equipment and no fucking rush to do it.

The Saigon bullshit was theatre for fuckwits like you.

We were always going to withdraw from Afghanistan.
Trump wanted to do it with dignity and without casualties.
The Taliban understood under Trump the better get with a peaceful withdrawal plan.
Trump's plan would have gotten everybody out essentially safe and sound.
We would have had a bit of dignity in the way we left.

Then Xiden got in and pretty much on purpose they made the biggest mess with as many casualties as they could.
Probably to try to humiliate the USA because well they hate the USA.
 
POS shows up in his "Tough Guy" gear, trying to be Mr. Bad A$$. Got used to all that free money and arms. Then to expect more?? F him!
He's been the most disrespectful foreign president I have ever witnessed on main stream media. That's what this F'n last administration has reduced us to. Made us feel/look weak and all we're here for, is to bankroll the F'n world! We have a lot of cleaning up to do, to get our respect back, thanks to the last commie Big Chair shitter we had to endure.
Makes me F'n sick. Mac
Benjamin Netanyahu takes issue with that statement.
 
We were always going to withdraw from Afghanistan.
Trump wanted to do it with dignity and without casualties.
The Taliban understood under Trump the better get with a peaceful withdrawal plan.
Trump's plan would have gotten everybody out essentially safe and sound.
We would have had a bit of dignity in the way we left.

Then Xiden got in and pretty much on purpose they made the biggest mess with as many casualties as they could.
Probably to try to humiliate the USA because well they hate the USA.

Trump is a Surrender-Monkey.

He will surrender on behalf of the US to ANYONE, ANYWHERE, for ANY REASON.

Trump flew the Taliban leadership to Qatar and bent over the table and spread his cheeks WIDE.

The Doha Surrender is what legitimized the Taliban and set them up to rule Afghanistan again- after Trump knew he would be out of office.

The Helsinki Surrender was what green-lighted the invasion of Ukraine. As Trump said today, "It was supposed to last one day!" at a time after Trump left office... but Z-man said NYET and started to STACK.

Looks like we gonna keep stacking after the snow melts too... OH BOY, OH BOY!
 
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You know I don’t support just sending endless amounts of money to Ukraine, but I would have no issue with putting 100,000 troops whether their NATO American European or whatever building some airbases a naval port putting some angry marines on the ground and some big green guys and just having to go at it I mean, I’m tired of delaying the inevitable at some point in time we’re gonna have a direct conflict with a near peer whether it be China or Russia so fucking giddyup let’s do it
Nice, lets just kill more soldiers. How would you feel if it was your ass going. No one wins a war. Best to send money and weapons and let non Americans die for their country. Before you yell back up your words, I was infantry for 15 years
 
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Sniper’s Hide: “I don’t want my tax money going to Ukraine!”

Also Sniper’s Hide: “Withdrawing from Afghanistan was bullshit!”

-Stan
i thought all the fed trolling would decrease. guess not. we spent billions of $s and how many lives in Afghanistan. uninstalling and then reinstalling the Taliban. we needed to get out of there. never should have been there. we should and could have left in a measured and rational fashion. taking every bullet,plane,brick,toilet,everything out with us. instead we did an insane withdrawal leaving billions in advanced weaponry for our enemies to use or sell in addition to getting 13 more people killed. and,BTW leaving those that did support us there to be slaughtered ,like we did in VN. this process was,of course,planned and implemented to maximize the damage and loss we had already absorbed. the incompetent and ignorant Russians seem to have done their departure cleaner,safer and having lost less fighting there for no better reason than we did.
 
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i thought all the fed trolling would decrease. guess not. we spent billions of $s and how many lives in Afghanistan. uninstalling and then reinstalling the Taliban. we needed to get out of there. never should have been there. we should and could have left in a measured and rational fashion. taking every bullet,plane,brick,toilet,everything out with us. instead we did an insane withdrawal leaving billions in advanced weaponry for our enemies to use or sell in addition to getting 13 more people killed. and,BTW leaving those that did support us there to be slaughtered ,like we did in VN. this process was,of course,planned and implemented to maximize the damage and loss we had already absorbed. the incompetent and ignorant Russians seem to have done their departure cleaner,safer and having lost less fighting there for no better reason than we did.
If you and I are going to keep agreeing we will have nothing to fight about.

-Stan
 
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Nice, lets just kill more soldiers. How would you feel if it was your ass going. No one wins a war. Best to send money and weapons and let non Americans die for their country. Before you yell back up your words, I was infantry for 15 years
Relax, bro, I know what you’re saying and I get it. Part of me is just beating my chest. The other part of me except the eventuality that the conflict is inevitable. I guarantee you that within the next four years, we will likely exchange fire with either Russia or China in some fashion. There’s no more chess pieces on the board. We fought all the little wars. The only thing left is a near peer conflict.
 
His fucking daughter lives in a multi-million dollar condo in Paris and bought a Bugatti Supercar for a couple of million bucks...

Someone needs to DOGE his ass and show how much he and his family have siphoned off.

Bet he is paying Kalashnikov or whatever his commie name is to troll here.

The level of corruption among those worthless Ukraine pieces of shit is mind-boggling. Burisma... siphoning off billions. Zeliniski needs to hang from his feet like Mussolini for being one of the most corrupt leaders of modern times.

Shoot him in a ditch like Khadaffi... or have his head pop off like Saddam. On Pay Per View.

Sirhr
 
Relax, bro, I know what you’re saying and I get it. Part of me is just beating my chest. The other part of me except the eventuality that the conflict is inevitable. I guarantee you that within the next four years, we will likely exchange fire with either Russia or China in some fashion. There’s no more chess pieces on the board. We fought all the little wars. The only thing left is a near peer conflict.
hope you have a good supply of iodine tabs. gonna need them.
 
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POS shows up in his "Tough Guy" gear, trying to be Mr. Bad A$$. Got used to all that free money and arms. Then to expect more?? F him!
He's been the most disrespectful foreign president I have ever witnessed on main stream media. That's what this F'n last administration has reduced us to. Made us feel/look weak and all we're here for, is to bankroll the F'n world! We have a lot of cleaning up to do, to get our respect back, thanks to the last commie Big Chair shitter we had to endure.
Makes me F'n sick. Mac
Not to dismiss Z's behavior or actions, but maybe he can't help himself. Literally.

If you've ever been around a bunch of Russians, Ukrainians or other Slavs, especially when they're drunk which is most of the time, you'll find them to be loud, boorish clods lacking in the finer points of etiquitte. They don't know any better and are helpless to change.

I bet Zalensky left completely in the dark and confused at WTF happened. He's always played the role of selfless warfighter that doesn't have time to even change out of his gear because he has to get back to his noble troops in the trenches. Just give him a few more billions and he'll keep Putin and the commies away from the U.S.