Rifle Scopes Zero Compromise Optic update

This is possible ??
Say one day I want to change a MPCT3 to a MPCT6 several years down the line.......ZCO does this ?

$500 for a reticle change ?.......Perhaps less for SH members ? ;)
I don't know how much the cost is, but yes, it is an available option as far as I know. Give @CSTactical a call. I'm sure he can fill you in on the details.
 
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@b2lee I have to wait because my youngest daughter is getting married in 2 weeks. Gotta see what the final total will be for that.
I do get to live vicariously through a friend this weekend shooting with his ZCO.
Man get your priorities straight...tell her daddy needs a new scope.
 
I don't know how much the cost is, but yes, it is an available option as far as I know. Give @CSTactical a call. I'm sure he can fill you in on the details.
Thank you for confirming the option is available.
I dont have a ZCO scope yet but I'm saving for one and it makes my choice of ZCO an even better one since knowing I can change reticles later if I want to

I don't know if other scope companies offer this too but it's a very smart move on ZCO's part (y)
 
Thank you for confirming the option is available.
I dont have a ZCO scope yet but I'm saving for one and it makes my choice of ZCO an even better one since knowing I can change reticles later if I want to

I don't know if other scope companies offer this too but it's a very smart move on ZCO's part (y)
Agreed. I just got an MPCT2, and while it is a great reticle it’s nice to know that if some new greatness comes out a switch would be possible
 
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Here’s the best pics I could get inside the building with it at 5x and 27x

Inside building, to my eyes, it’s usable at 5x if you absolutely needed to. With a dark background, illumination is always the answer as well.

Once I get one outside in the wild, will be able to give better idea and hopefully pics.

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Bloody useless for us metric people...

Here in Europe we get target sizes in centimeters, so 1" = 2.54cm, fun to that math at a stage with unknown ranges, guess the distance is also numbered in 100's yard?. Then it gets even funnier, 1 yard = 0.914 meters....

Hope they release a MPCT3 for the rest of the world too...
 
Bloody useless for us metric people...

Here in Europe we get target sizes in centimeters, so 1" = 2.54cm, fun to that math at a stage with unknown ranges, guess the distance is also numbered in 100's yard?. Then it gets even funnier, 1 yard = 0.914 meters....

Hope they release a MPCT3 for the rest of the world too...

We change between meters and yards all the time over here. Also, do they make ipsc targets differently??

IPSC: 18” or 45cm

66% ipsc: 12” or 30cm

8” is 20cm

6” is 15cm

Reticle ranging is not a precise tool, so those numbers will get you well beyond an acceptable solution.

And if you’re in a match where you’ll be using the reticle a lot, or on a single stage, just set your calculator to “yards” for dope.

No one cares what the linear unit of measure is for distance. All that matters is your dope is dialed in for a target. I change from yards to meters all the time.

It’s only useless if you want it to be useless.

You shouldn’t be doing any math in the field or on the clock anyway. If you’re not using a cheat sheet next to your dope chart for ranging, you’re wrong and need to change your tactics.

This reticle works fine for CM targets. Just use the above values I listed. As long as you’re within a few CM, you’ll be close enough to make an impact as you’ll already have a margin of error due to color if the target, sunlight, etc etc already hampering your ability to accurately mil a target.
 
This is how easy it is. These are all within 3 meters to keep it easy. Make a card like this and laminate it. Problem solved and you can range all day long with this reticle and run UKD matches.

You should already have several analog dope cards laminated if you’re needing to make dope calculations on the spot. So you won’t be adding to anything you shouldn’t already have. Measure it, find it on card, dial it in gun, kill it. Same shit, different day.

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Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha. :p But as far as I understood the rangefinder gives you the distance in meter to an IPSC target in inches. Or is it actually yards?
 
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Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha. :p But as far as I understood the rangefinder gives you the distance in meter to an IPSC target in inches. Or is it actually yards?

Who cares? Either use a cheat card or change your calculator to yards for that target to get your dope. Whether is meters or yards. It doesn’t matter either way.

This ain’t rocket surgery.
 
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Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha. :p But as far as I understood the rangefinder gives you the distance in meter to an IPSC target in inches. Or is it actually yards?
The ranging funnel give distances in yards. As DThomas pointed out already, it's still fairly simple to adapt those to meters.
 
We change between meters and yards all the time over here. Also, do they make ipsc targets differently??

IPSC: 18” or 45cm

66% ipsc: 12” or 30cm

8” is 20cm

6” is 15cm

Reticle ranging is not a precise tool, so those numbers will get you well beyond an acceptable solution.

And if you’re in a match where you’ll be using the reticle a lot, or on a single stage, just set your calculator to “yards” for dope.

No one cares what the linear unit of measure is for distance. All that matters is your dope is dialed in for a target. I change from yards to meters all the time.

It’s only useless if you want it to be useless.

You shouldn’t be doing any math in the field or on the clock anyway. If you’re not using a cheat sheet next to your dope chart for ranging, you’re wrong and need to change your tactics.

This reticle works fine for CM targets. Just use the above values I listed. As long as you’re within a few CM, you’ll be close enough to make an impact as you’ll already have a margin of error due to color if the target, sunlight, etc etc already hampering your ability to accurately mil a target.

Well we don't use the imperial system for anything today.

But i guess, wouldn't be to hard remembering the numbers with some training. As long as the matches uses the ipsc target sizes.

And as long as it gets you close enough...
 
Well we don't use the imperial system for anything today.

But i guess, wouldn't be to hard remembering the numbers with some training. As long as the matches uses the ipsc target sizes.

And as long as it gets you close enough...

The funnel is still perfectly functional on any target shape, so long as the width is 6, 9, 12, or 18" (or equivalent in metric). Doesn't "have" to be IPSC shape. We just made it to accommodate those specific widths based on those popular IPSC targets commonly used in reticle ranging scenarios.
 
Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha. :p But as far as I understood the rangefinder gives you the distance in meter to an IPSC target in inches. Or is it actually yards?

There are two kinds of countries. Those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon.
 
Asked the dealer to see how long the delivery time is on the MPCT3 reticle here in Sweden.

Might grab one of those, really like a the Christmas three in it even if i'm not 100% sure on the ranging "wedge".
And it has 0.1mil areas i can measure targets with so...
 
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The funnel is still perfectly functional on any target shape, so long as the width is 6, 9, 12, or 18" (or equivalent in metric). Doesn't "have" to be IPSC shape. We just made it to accommodate those specific widths based on those popular IPSC targets commonly used in reticle ranging scenarios.

Yeah it makes more sense the more i think on it.
most long range matches over here uses those target sizes, and can still measure with the finer gradients for the targets that don't match.

And i really like the rest of it as well, so ordered a zco527 today with that reticle. Hopefully i'll receive it before a match i have in April.
 
Kind of odd that it doesn't come with covers, considering the price. I mean, even the Revic scopes come with covers (which are Tenebrex made, with the Revic logo).
 
Kind of odd that it doesn't come with covers, considering the price. I mean, even the Revic scopes come with covers (which are Tenebrex made, with the Revic logo).

Yes and no. Part of me agrees and the other part understands why not.

They did what they could to keep the price from going into the Tangent level. You’re getting one of the two (three if you count hendsoldt) consensus best optics on the market for at least $500 less than the best price you can find on a tangent.
 
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Years ago, seven of us went to a local casino to play in a big poker tournament. Hours and hours later, here I am at the final table. One of my friends spoke up and laughed. We just spent hours of grinding to get to the final table...and I look around and it looks like our Thursday night game. Of the final nine, seven of us were friends and practically drove together to the tournament. Afterwards, we all cashed out. I came in 2nd and we were all Top 7. We celebrated by going to the steak house

The Waiter asked me what I wanted. I replied with, "What comes with the steak? Baked Potato, Veggies, what?" He said, "Nothing sir. I can add whatever you like." I was like a $100 steak doesn't come with a potato? He said, "Sir, if you can afford a $100 steak, does it really matter that it doesn't come with a potato when you can afford to buy any side you like?" This was in the early 1990's.

So...the ZCO...If you can afford one...and you want one...does it really matter that it doesn't come with a baked potato? You can afford to buy anything to go with it you like...and even a cheesecake for dessert.
 
Years ago, seven of us went to a local casino to play in a big poker tournament. Hours and hours later, here I am at the final table. One of my friends spoke up and laughed. We just spent hours of grinding to get to the final table...and I look around and it looks like our Thursday night game. Of the final nine, seven of us were friends and practically drove together to the tournament. Afterwards, we all cashed out. I came in 2nd and we were all Top 7. We celebrated by going to the steak house

The Waiter asked me what I wanted. I replied with, "What comes with the steak? Baked Potato, Veggies, what?" He said, "Nothing sir. I can add whatever you like." I was like a $100 steak doesn't come with a potato? He said, "Sir, if you can afford a $100 steak, does it really matter that it doesn't come with a potato when you can afford to buy any side you like?" This was in the early 1990's.

So...the ZCO...If you can afford one...and you want one...does it really matter that it doesn't come with a baked potato? You can afford to buy anything to go with it you like...and even a cheesecake for dessert.

Goddamn. $100 steak in the 90’s?

Gas was $0.79/gallon and I remember seeing a $100 bill was actually a semi rare occurrence. You could eat and drive all week in $100.

.........fuck I’m getting old.
 
Goddamn. $100 steak in the 90’s?

Gas was $0.79/gallon and I remember seeing a $100 bill was actually a semi rare occurrence. You could eat and drive all week in $100.

.........fuck I’m getting old.

The 90's seem like just the other day. Time...it goes by soo fast. Buy once, cry once...and enjoy what you have and the time you have to spend it.

I have to admit though....even 30 years later or so...and many a steak eaten since then....I don't know if it was the company I was in, the flow of alcohol, the thrill of winning a lot of friggin money that night....but that was the best damn steak I've ever had. The potato was a little meh though.

Can't wait...in a short time from now...I'll be in the ZCO family. Hopefully the best damn scope I'll ever use...even if the aftermarket scope caps turn out to be a little meh.
 
Years ago, seven of us went to a local casino to play in a big poker tournament. Hours and hours later, here I am at the final table. One of my friends spoke up and laughed. We just spent hours of grinding to get to the final table...and I look around and it looks like our Thursday night game. Of the final nine, seven of us were friends and practically drove together to the tournament. Afterwards, we all cashed out. I came in 2nd and we were all Top 7. We celebrated by going to the steak house

The Waiter asked me what I wanted. I replied with, "What comes with the steak? Baked Potato, Veggies, what?" He said, "Nothing sir. I can add whatever you like." I was like a $100 steak doesn't come with a potato? He said, "Sir, if you can afford a $100 steak, does it really matter that it doesn't come with a potato when you can afford to buy any side you like?" This was in the early 1990's.

So...the ZCO...If you can afford one...and you want one...does it really matter that it doesn't come with a baked potato? You can afford to buy anything to go with it you like...and even a cheesecake for dessert.

Oh, I get it. But I also understand that wealthy people stay wealthy by buying value when it can be had.

Like I said, it's odd to me (kind of like buying a high end TV, and it didn't come with a $15 cable needed to hook it up). But it's certainly not a deal breaker.