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We can't import nfa except for specific purposes. Essentially LEO only.

"With certain exceptions, NFA firearms may only be imported for the use of the United States or any
State or possession or political subdivision thereof such as a law enforcement agency; for scientific or
research purposes; solely for testing or use as a model by a registered manufacturer; or solely for use as
a sample by a registered importer or registered dealer."

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It looks like we are finally seeing some over-the-barrel cans made and available in the US. Don’t know why it took so long but glad to see it. Now to figure out which one to get for a hunting rifle. The B.O.B. from savage is one but it’s a bit heavy and haven’t seen reviews yet.
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My $0 Tax Stamp Rant

I don’t think the prices would drop much if at all. R&D, materials, machines, employee costs, building and maintenance, insurance, etc are still there and prices of most of that keep rising. The paperwork isn’t the bulk of the money going out, but the time and employees handling that are a cost.

The volume of shitty made/designed suppressors that they would try to sell at today’s prices would go up, but well made stuff with high grade materials isn’t going down in price. Obviously there would be some being made cheaply at a cheaper price…just like the cheaply made lower costs cans we already have.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but it's all speculation. Of course that's rarely how anything works in economics. If the volume of sales increase, and the market demand increases, and the manufacturer cost decreases (they won't need a team of experts to do the atf applications), then the sale price goes down. Also, adding competition to the market drives prices down. The thing is, nobody is really worried about them being cheaper, that's why I said that nobody cares about the tax stamp. I have a half dozen cans now or so, but if they cost the same amount but I could walk into my lgs tomorrow and buy them over the counter, I'd buy 6 more next week, and so would many folks.

My $0 Tax Stamp Rant

And the cost of all that is being passed on to you…
Ok........ so, the point was that nobody gives a shit about the cost we are paying for suppressors currently. We care about the NFA restrictions. If you think folks who are building them now wouldn't lower their costs exponentially by eliminating all of the current paperwork and simply paying $200 per unit in taxes, I don't know what to say. When you can walk into your local gun shop and buy them without even a 4473 and walk out the same day, you don't think their volume would increase? Volume increase causes a natural decrease in price. We would be buying them for current cost or less. Many more manufacturers would jump into the market and drive prices down. Everyone would buy them. It would be amazing. The $200 tax is irrelevant.

People ask me why I don't like Sig.......

The problem is SIG USA, and if SIG/Sauer is smart they'll spin it off/sell it off and require the successor to be named as not a SIG company/product. All that fat dollarage from gov contracts must have been needed at SIG/Sauer's end of things, somehow. As a historic company they will regret that dollarage influx because of the reputation damage it's done.
Yeah, pretty much change the name like sti did. Spotty quality and piss poor CS at STI, now we're staccato and make "super great 2011s."
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My $0 Tax Stamp Rant

Exactly, and if there’s extra work/paperwork involved on the manufacturers end they aren’t doing that for free.
They are currently doing the entire application process to the ATF, mountains of paperwork that has to be absolutely perfect. They then deal with deliveries, (an additional 4473).

I can imagine they could handle the burden of sending the IRS $200 for each unit sold. Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

My $0 Tax Stamp Rant

They aren’t doing extra on their end and not charging you. You’d end up paying more than the can plus stamp….and people would bitch
What are you talking about? Please take a moment to look into pittman/Robertson and dingle/Johnson. You don't seem to be aware that this model has been in existence for longer than you've been alive and you've paid it on every box of ammo, firearm and fishing pole you've ever bought.

Suppressors Form 4 wait time

Completed my Capital Armory profile and uploaded my Trust and picture. Stupid easy. Then was able to make a apt at PrintScan in the UPS Store 0.5mile from my house 10min from when I went to make the apt. Walked in, sat down, took 5min and done. Got an email from PrintScan right after I clicked the complete and submit button at the UPS Store saying they received my fingerprints... Just waiting on the emailed EFT file so I can upload it to my Capital Armory profile then everything is done on my end.

This was stupid easy! Ive bought a lot of suppressors, done a bunch of eFile Form1's.. Now having this EFT fingerprint file for life makes all of this so much easier. The fingerprints were the only annoying part in the past even though I simplified it for years by rolling my own...

Once this tax stamp goes away, buying NFA items, especially from stores that you already have a profile setup become as easy as clicking and buying something off amazon.
I went through the exact process you did, printscan eft fingerprint file, etc. It was easy. CA is VERY helpful with the entire process, to my Bank accounts demise.

Maggie’s The Welding and Metalworking Thread

Got this all made up to reinforce my dipping garage door. 3/8x 3/4 x24. Started as 1" wide. Drilled and tapped 10-32. Going to be a bit til I can install it. View attachment 8721954
Broke tibia fibula on Monday and have a tibia rod in my leg now. More details in the that's not gonna buff out thread.
Sorry to hear about your injury, hope it heals well.

But you despots know I have to ask, did you fab your own tibia rod?
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My $0 Tax Stamp Rant

Funny you mentioned that:

The $200 isn’t in the cost of the can it’s a separate tax, so if it gets added to the can the price is still going up. The manufacturer isn’t going to just charge $200 extra and call it a day, they are going to turn it into profit also.
Are you hungover?

You aren't grasping any of this. Please go back and read the comment you initially responded to.
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